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ped said:
he is saying play delph instead of ya ya , he has no time for toure sad really
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I know he hates Toure, but surely to God he's not that fucking dense that he'd genuinely pick Delph ahead of Toure?
 
fatbloke said:
The problem is Yaya can't do 50% of his job role and Fernando is exactly the same, one due to physical limitations, the other due to technical limitations. Either way we need them both out at the end of the season and Delph fit as soon as possible this season. Not that Pellegrini will pick him above Yaya because he cost less.
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Two of our past three games Yaya has missed and we have been woeful yet people still come out with this shite. Delphi isn't fit to smell a Yaya fart never mind replace him on the pitch.

And it's fine to have two midfielders with a complete different skill set but what's important in that situation is that the boss knows how to use them to get the most out of them for the team. Our manager has never managed to do anything of the sort.
 
Managed & motivated correctly & used strategically YAYA can play for another 2/3years.

There is no other player that can run a game like he does. His passing range is just unique. Give,go pass,move,receive,recycle,shoot,score pass,move,pass,pass,give,go !!

We've been privileged to watch one of the 'Big Beasts' of the modern era.

Unfortunately,due to the complete incompetence of the 'coach' in a season that will be remembered more for what we've lost rather than for what we've won I fear that YAYA will be part of the Pep revolution.

He deserves to be remembered as a legend.
 
fatbloke said:
The problem is Yaya can't do 50% of his job role and Fernando is exactly the same, one due to physical limitations, the other due to technical limitations. Either way we need them both out at the end of the season and Delph fit as soon as possible this season. Not that Pellegrini will pick him above Yaya because he cost less.
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It's easy to slag off Fernando, whilst you conveniently ignore Fernandinho. You say Fernando is dross in his attacking game, but I'd like to know what you think about Fernandinho's capabilities leading the line at the middle of the park. He is about the best assistant/supporter we have but can you look in the mirror and say with Fernandinho leading in the middle, we'll finish within top 4 this season?
 
ojeme said:
It's easy to slag off Fernando, whilst you conveniently ignore Fernandinho. You say Fernando is dross in his attacking game, but I'd like to know what you think about Fernandinho's capabilities leading the line at the middle of the park. He is about the best assistant/supporter we have but can you look in the mirror and say with Fernandinho leading in the middle, we'll finish within top 4 this season?
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Just look at 53rd minute, pretty sure both Ferns were jogging back in way Yaya gets slagged for.

Team is worse without Yaya.
 
Ya ya,kompany and Sergio are our 3 main guys, the only true world class players we have, it will be interesting to see what pep does, will he build a team around toure to protect his negatives or just call time on him, I think it will be the latter
 
OB1 said:
Just look at 53rd minute, pretty sure both Ferns were jogging back in way Yaya gets slagged for.

Team is worse without Yaya.
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amen brother. one more thing, I realized that even when we have guys that supposedly have the legs, and we are beaten in the middle of the park, some people still blame the big man who is supposed to be the furtherest of the three as ono points out quite often whilst they ignore or downplay the obvious fact that whenever Komps is out of the team, our back 6 somehow struggle to hold their own. It's not a surprise really because they have publicly expressed their dislike for this man, so obviously there's some judging with anti-toure specs on involved here.
 
With or without Yaya we've been fucking shite for 18 months/2 years in midfield because we're so slow and predictable. The way we're playing simply isn't working, certainly not consistently.

Why stick with it? Why not try something different?

We all know Fernando isn't the answer because of his technical limitations, so the only other option (when fit) is Delph. Do I think he's the long term solution? Absolutely not. Do I think he's technically better than Yaya? Absolutely not. He would however allow us to change our style, allow the team to play high pressing, high intensity football. I don't know whether it would work or not, nobody does but it has to be worth a fucking go because if we stick to the slow bullshit we're currently playing I personally don't think we'll get in the top four, unless the other teams around us fuck up.
 
birchwoodgingerste said:
Miles better with toure as sadly merlin isn't a tenth of the player he was this season.hes turned into a shit Harry Potter!:))
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Yaya has peaked as a player and Dave's injury probably means he has, which has given City a problem because we have been so reliant on both of them. It is an unpopular opinion though that I hold, which is Yaya has been and remains the more important player of the two. Two players I hasten to add that stand with Sergio and The King as City's best players in my lifetime.
 
OB1 said:
Yaya has peaked as a player and Dave's injury probably means he has, which has given City a problem because we have been so reliant on both of them. It is an unpopular opinion though that I hold, which is Yaya has been and remains the more important player of the two. Two players I hasten to add that stand with Sergio and The King as City's best players in my lifetime.
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6 months ago i would have disagreed completely but now, not.

Yaya is a huge miss to this side right now whilst Dave is almost a passenger.
 
OB1 said:
Yaya has peaked as a player and Dave's injury probably means he has, which has given City a problem because we have been so reliant on both of them. It is an unpopular opinion though that I hold, which is Yaya has been and remains the more important player of the two. Two players I hasten to add that stand with Sergio and The King as City's best players in my lifetime.
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It's shocking that we have failed to plan for this eventually, instead relying on hope that they would just continue to come up with the goods with little thought into what we would do if they didn't.

We have spent a lot of money in the last two years and not very wisely.
 
Millwallawayveteran1988 said:
It's shocking that we have failed to plan for this eventually, instead relying on hope that they would just continue to come up with the goods with little thought into what we would do if they didn't.

We have spent a lot of money in the last two years and not very wisely.
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Spent around 80 million on two dodgy centre backs without finding a replacement to one of the best central midfielders to ever play in the prem. Now yaya has declined, all the over clubs are on a level playing field to us, our midfield looks ordinary. I think we've been unlucky with injuries in the attacking midfield area so I don't think we can really criticise the club for not replacing silva.
 
Millwallawayveteran1988 said:
It's shocking that we have failed to plan for this eventually, instead relying on hope that they would just continue to come up with the goods with little thought into what we would do if they didn't.

We have spent a lot of money in the last two years and not very wisely.
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I think we have planned mate and the plan has always been Pogba.

It didnt happen last year but im hopeful it will this to coincide with pep arriving.

Had pep arrived 3 years agao, i will wager we would have seen a very different squad to what we have now.
 
blueinsa said:
I think we have planned mate and the plan has always been Pogba.

It didnt happen last year but im hopeful it will this to coincide with pep arriving.

Had pep arrived 3 years agao, i will wager we would have seen a very different squad to what we have now.
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Probably. I still think more thought should have gone into it.
 
malg said:
I know he hates Toure, but surely to God he's not that fucking dense that he'd genuinely pick Delph ahead of Toure?
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Is there any Leicester or spurs midfielder you would pick ahead of yaya?
However, both teams would play off the park a two man midfield of yaya + another.

The question is not yaya or delph, because they offer different, complementary skills.
The real question is when playing hard pressing teams why don't we support yaya with two hard workings water carriers (such as Delph) so that he isn't exposed.
 
Pelligrini is grossly incompetent and has hung Yaya out to dry over the last 2 seasons with team selection and 'tactics'.

I'd keep Yaya for one more year(if he wants to stay) and as he still has a lot to offer. As good as Fernandinho is, he's not really a replacement and Delph and Fernando are not up to it, certainly under this manager who seemingly doesn't play to players strengths
 
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