EU referendum

EU referendum

  • In

    Votes: 503 47.9%
  • Out

    Votes: 547 52.1%

  • Total voters
    1,050
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You were alive in the 70's? Standard of living in the UK gone down since then?
The standard of living in material terms has risen almost everywhere in the western world - EU or not since then. Our standard of living in material terms had risen for decades prior to this too I think?
 
Evidence requires finite actuals rather than biased hypotheticals.

Nor would you "evidence back reasoning" be a 'positive' reason for staying as Cheesy asked for. It would simply be another negative campaign aspect.

Can't you just reverse all the negatives the inner team say about leaving. not complicated
 
Can't you just reverse all the negatives the inner team say about leaving. not complicated
No, because they are hypothetical rather than facts. Like many you struggle to get past media soundbites and scare stories. Maybe there is nothing beyond?
 
The standard of living in material terms has risen almost everywhere in the western world - EU or not since then. Our standard of living in material terms had risen for decades prior to this too I think?

Very true, but all studies carried out out one of the main reasons for this as the formation of the eu. Rhetoric says it's bad, but all evidence shows it isn't
 
No, because they are hypothetical rather than facts. Like many you struggle to get past media soundbites and scare stories. Maybe there is nothing beyond?

You can't have an absolute fact on something that hasn't happened yet - you do know this so let's not be silly, but nobody except the absolute rabid loons who has looked at the evidence has come to the conclusion the UK would be better off outside the eu
 
You can't have an absolute fact on something that hasn't happened yet - you do know this so let's not be silly, but nobody except the absolute rabid loons who has looked at the evidence has come to the conclusion the UK would be better off outside the eu
So you actually can't cone up with any positive, fact based pros for staying beyond the hypothetical which of course means you are not a 'loon' as you choose to package the folk who believe something different to you? Have you tried religion? I think you might enjoy it, and you could believe in a heaven and hell sort of arrangement which would neatly fit with your packaged views on this debate. When it comes down to it, you have nothing to offer in terms of factual positive reasoning for staying do you? This is sad, because even though I'm an outer I could probably argue your view in a more sensible way. :-(
 
So you actually can't cone up with any positive, fact based pros for staying beyond the hypothetical which of course means you are not a 'loon' as you choose to package the folk who believe something different to you? Have you tried religion? I think you might enjoy it, and you could believe in a heaven and hell sort of arrangement which would neatly fit with your packaged views on this debate. When it comes down to it, you have nothing to offer in terms of factual positive reasoning for staying do you? This is sad, because even though I'm an outer I could probably argue your view in a more sensible way. :-(

Sorry, thought being richer was a positive. Didn't realise your left wing credentials went so deep
 
Sorry, thought being richer was a positive. Didn't realise your left wing credentials went so deep
When will we be richer please, and by how much?
Also presumably you could invert the figure over the same time to give an accurate view of the post brexit Apocalypse?
Can't wait.
 
Most of the studies I can find are looking over a 10-12 year period assuming the UK leaves in 2018, so 2018-2030

Think the government looked at 10 years but not a fanatic so couldn't tell you
I'll wait for the pro Brexit funded studies that will be out in the next week or so to tell you then answer.
 
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