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Alot needs to be learnt from other sports and how I've seen lads who've literally put their bodies on the line playing rugby and shown passion for their clubs will be impartial when commentating on Rugby.

The same applies with other sports I watch such as MMA/Boxing/NHL where this element of respect remains and the pundits will provide analytical constructive criticism in an impartial way.

I'm not asking for a Blue lovefest with Ian cheeseman and the like, I just expect what I see whilst watching other sports.

I've seen boxers who've shown significant rivalry/hatred against another boxer actually praising this boxer whilst he's competing against someone else.

Yet in football they act like little children, spitting their dummies and if anything I'll blame my football club Manchester City for this...

Why?

Because we are soft arses, simple as....

We don't want to offend anyone.

I'd ban all them pundit cunts from the stadium, and happily pay any fines occur.
Cut them at the throats and they'll have to release a public statement as to why they cannot broadcast City matches.

You'll soon see a change of tide.
 
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I have watch our away games on both BT sports and Sky sports by far the worst is BT most of the time they have to find some biased red rag to commentate on our games. The worst is Michael Owen. It doesn't matter how well we have played he always has to find some way of belittling us. Will e-mail BT Sports to complain, and if every City fan did the same then just maybe BT Sport might do something about it, especially if you tell them that you will be dropping their sports channel. I just don't believe that they can't find 1 ex city player to co commentate on our games when we are at home.
 
TBooksbluearmy said:
I have watch our away games on both BT sports and Sky sports by far the worst is BT most of the time they have to find some biased red rag to commentate on our games. The worst is Michael Owen. It doesn't matter how well we have played he always has to find some way of belittling us. Will e-mail BT Sports to complain, and if every City fan did the same then just maybe BT Sport might do something about it, especially if you tell them that you will be dropping their sports channel. I just don't believe that they can't find 1 ex city player to co commentate on our games when we are at home.
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Whn they do get an 'ex-City' player is it's usually some bitter tw@t like McPointer, or the bald evertionian who hates us cos we gave him the bum's rush
Bring on the Goat !!
 
Paul Lake, Shaun Goater, Paul Dickov, to name a few that they could get I reckon. The only one they have had on that has been positive was Owen Hargreaves and that is scraping the barrel because he also played for the red shite as well
 
TBooksbluearmy said:
I have watch our away games on both BT sports and Sky sports by far the worst is BT most of the time they have to find some biased red rag to commentate on our games. The worst is Michael Owen. It doesn't matter how well we have played he always has to find some way of belittling us. Will e-mail BT Sports to complain, and if every City fan did the same then just maybe BT Sport might do something about it, especially if you tell them that you will be dropping their sports channel. I just don't believe that they can't find 1 ex city player to co commentate on our games when we are at home.
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Totally agree
 
Dribble said:
Time moves on and money talks. BT's integrity has been publicly called into question and above the hackneyed twit who decided not to show highlights of our FA Cup final, there will be some number cruncher and when that person considers the lasting damage that can be done, economics will force them to change.
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Can't see it happening myself. They are worse than Sky ever were and they're locked into a digital mediah agenda tail spin that will only promote the rags, red dippers, arse and possibly Chelsea (and to also put down the main opponents of the aforesaid teams). Concentrating on the few can only end up in the operation going bust just as all the newspapers will. They need to totally change direction now to survive and I just can't see that happening.
 
BT actually phoned me this morning after a pessimistic e mail I sent the other week, I actually went into detail stating that Jake whatisname as I told the lady nobody really knows him along with turdinhand the drug cheat ginger pig scholes and mcpointerman had been the greatest help in curing insomnia ever and that they had a total lack of football tactical knowledge so instead used terms of dislike of man city the amount payed for players and the best of the best the empty seat get out clause, I also tried to inform this lovely lady that the back lash from not just city fans but anyone not being involved with their big sky four ex player pundits were also discovering that although most players did not make good managers the same was also could include about being a well informed football pundit, she was typing furiously and trying to keep up with my controlled rant, we both agreed on a parting of the ways, within seconds my cancellation e mail was received, lovely lady but I bet she was exhausted from the amount of phone calls she's had to make this week,
 
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BlueMoonz1977 said:
Paul Lake, Shaun Goater, Paul Dickov, to name a few that they could get I reckon. The only one they have had on that has been positive was Owen Hargreaves and that is scraping the barrel because he also played for the red shite as well
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I don't think Goater would be great actually. More to the point, none of these are well enough known to anyone coming in in the last 10 years. None had stellar international careers or won much domestically. Studio pundits need to be recognisable to some degree.

It still comes back to the studio people needing to be objective and good at what they're there for. If City are awful, and one player has a shocker, then there's nothing wrong with that being highlighted, and even better if they can offer explanation of why it's happening or how to fix it. As it is, they default to sniping at the club generally, or unbacked abuse. A case in point is Mangala. He's had a few shockers, but I would expect a pundit to be able to spot that one recurring reason is the left back being miles out of position, leaving a massive hole which Mangala is unsure of how to cover.
 
MillionMilesAway said:
I don't think Goater would be great actually. More to the point, none of these are well enough known to anyone coming in in the last 10 years. None had stellar international careers or won much domestically. Studio pundits need to be recognisable to some degree.

It still comes back to the studio people needing to be objective and good at what they're there for. If City are awful, and one player has a shocker, then there's nothing wrong with that being highlighted, and even better if they can offer explanation of why it's happening or how to fix it. As it is, they default to sniping at the club generally, or unbacked abuse. A case in point is Mangala. He's had a few shockers, but I would expect a pundit to be able to spot that one recurring reason is the left back being miles out of position, leaving a massive hole which Mangala is unsure of how to cover.
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Which begs another question. Why are these pundits needed anyway ?
They'd just be telling you what you already know.
 
It's shame for Blues how have nothing to cancel I bet that it's been more than a little satisfying having them email or phone you just to hear your complaint of how fucking awful they are on the whole where football is concerned.
 
MillionMilesAway said:
I don't think Goater would be great actually. More to the point, none of these are well enough known to anyone coming in in the last 10 years. None had stellar international careers or won much domestically. Studio pundits need to be recognisable to some degree.


It still comes back to the studio people needing to be objective and good at what they're there for. If City are awful, and one player has a shocker, then there's nothing wrong with that being highlighted, and even better if they can offer explanation of why it's happening or how to fix it. As it is, they default to sniping at the club generally, or unbacked abuse. A case in point is Mangala. He's had a few shockers, but I would expect a pundit to be able to spot that one recurring reason is the left back being miles out of position, leaving a massive hole which Mangala is unsure of how to cover.
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a)MMA, your London base probably means that you don't listen to BBC GMR (That's BBC Greater Manchester Radio for you southern folk) up until tis year and for many years The Goat was an excellent player pundit on GMR's coverage of City games, home and away...most footy fans that I know north and south know of the Goat and your '10 year' rule is actually a bit meaningless for the overwhelming majority of the footy-watching public... so we sack of Gary Lineker, Steve Claridge (hey there's a temptation) Martin keown, Ina wright etc etc etc??? What nonsense
b) Yes , criticise poor play, poor tactics etc , fine
The problem is that BT et al usually a total failure to be man enough to give us praise where it's due
 
MillionMilesAway said:
I don't think Goater would be great actually. More to the point, none of these are well enough known to anyone coming in in the last 10 years. None had stellar international careers or won much domestically. Studio pundits need to be recognisable to some degree.

It still comes back to the studio people needing to be objective and good at what they're there for. If City are awful, and one player has a shocker, then there's nothing wrong with that being highlighted, and even better if they can offer explanation of why it's happening or how to fix it. As it is, they default to sniping at the club generally, or unbacked abuse. A case in point is Mangala. He's had a few shockers, but I would expect a pundit to be able to spot that one recurring reason is the left back being miles out of position, leaving a massive hole which Mangala is unsure of how to cover.
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Its never how well weve played or outplayed the opposition its always how bad/poorly the opposition have played , all any fan wants from so called pundits is fair unbiased and balanced opinions , taking off my blue tinted specs we never get that from BT and its always ex rags commenting , BT or sky will never get a penny from me whilst they spout their bile
 
Blueknows said:
Its never how well weve played or outplayed the opposition its always how bad/poorly the opposition have played , all any fan wants from so called pundits is fair unbiased and balanced opinions , taking off my blue tinted specs we never get that from BT and its always ex rags commenting , BT or sky will never get a penny from me whilst they spout their bile
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This... all day long Lack of grace , lack of balls, lack of class
 
dom said:
a)MMA, your London base probably means that you don't listen to BBC GMR (That's BBC Greater Manchester Radio for you southern folk) up until tis year and for many years The Goat was an excellent player pundit on GMR's coverage of City games, home and away...most footy fans that I know north and south know of the Goat and your '10 year' rule is actually a bit meaningless for the overwhelming majority of the footy-watching public... so we sack of Gary Lineker, Steve Claridge (hey there's a temptation) Martin keown, Ina wright etc etc etc??? What nonsense
b) Yes , criticise poor play, poor tactics etc , fine
The problem is that BT et al usually a total failure to be man enough to give us praise where it's due
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You're right, I don't listen to GMR! When I was up there, I was more of a Piccadilly/Key 103 type.
I was going off what I have seen/heard of him, but he may have come on a lot recently.

All of those you name (well except Claridge) are England internationals/champions who went straight into top level TV appearances, so their level of recognition neverdropped away. Almost no City player has that level of recognition.

I'm not defending BT punditry, just why there aren't many City names known for being City names. That being my view, I want some insight from whoever is on!
 
MillionMilesAway said:
You're right, I don't listen to GMR! When I was up there, I was more of a Piccadilly/Key 103 type.
I was going off what I have seen/heard of him, but he may have come on a lot recently.

All of those you name (well except Claridge) are England internationals/champions who went straight into top level TV appearances, so their level of recognition neverdropped away. Almost no City player has that level of recognition.

I'm not defending BT punditry, just why there aren't many City names known for being City names. That being my view, I want some insight from whoever is on!
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I think you're right, there isnt anyone easily recognisable /acceptable to the general football watching public. I am looking at the current crop though and wondering who would achieve that for City. I would hope Kompany or zaba or yaya could break into TV punditry
 
Why Always Ste said:
Alot needs to be learnt from other sports and how I've seen lads who've literally put their bodies on the line playing rugby and shown passion for their clubs will be impartial when commentating on Rugby.

The same applies with other sports I watch such as MMA/Boxing/NHL where this element of respect remains and the pundits will provide analytical constructive criticism in an impartial way.

I'm not asking for a Blue lovefest with Ian cheeseman and the like, I just expect what I see whilst watching other sports.

I've seen boxers who've shown significant rivalry/hatred against another boxer actually praising this boxer whilst he's competing against someone else.

Yet in football they act like little children, spitting their dummies and if anything I'll blame my football club Manchester City for this...

Why?

Because we are soft arses, simple as....

We don't want to offend anyone.

I'd ban all them pundit cunts from the stadium, and happily pay any fines occur.
Cut them at the throats and they'll have to release a public statement as to why they cannot broadcast City matches.

You'll soon see a change of tide.
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Fully agree but it will never happen as this holistic bollocks approach to everything is biting us on the arse. Club needs backbone and the media department (if we have one) need to earn their coin and toughen up, suggest putting Summerbee in charge of all PR from now on. Let them want us and not us want them as things are changing!!

On a final note I do tend to agree with a couple of posters about the mass negativity towards us being something to do with who owns us, it appears a power play between historical enemies.
 
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