EU referendum

EU referendum

  • In

    Votes: 503 47.9%
  • Out

    Votes: 547 52.1%

  • Total voters
    1,050
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Cameron ducked the Turkey question. Why if they are not going to join soon are we sending huge sums to fund their progress. Truth is its a bribe to get them to stem Syrian refugees so why wouldn't he say so. Disingenuous.
Why would he answer a massive "if..." hypothetical question? It's like being asked would you veto Leeds United being taken over by a Sheikh if you could. What's the point in the question?

We need to work closely with Turkey as a NATO ally and a country that we want to have "Western leanings" (as Cameron said himself) and we do need to work with them over the refugee situation but he wasn't asked that.
 
Looks like Christine Lagarde, head of the IMF who has spent so much time urging us to stay in the EU, is going to stand trial for conspiracy to commit a $400m fraud.

The EU - the fraudster's friend.
The corrupt bitch has the audacity to label those that want to leave the EU as narrow minded.Arrogant bastards.
 
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He had a chance to put this to bed once and for all.... I'd be asking why he never took that chance.
He did. He said numerous times "do not vote for exit on the lie of Turkey imminently joining the EU because it's just not going to happen, they have to have 35 things in place to join and so far they've got ONE, at this rate it'll be the year 3000 by the time they join"
 
He did. He said numerous times "do not vote for exit on the lie of Turkey imminently joining the EU because it's just not going to happen, they have to have 35 things in place to join and so far they've got ONE, at this rate it'll be the year 3000 by the time they join"
So I ask again WHY could he not simply say, if it came to the vote whilst I'm in office I will Veto it? Whether it's going to happen or not is irrelevant he was asked if he would veto it IF it did happen and the wouldn't say no.
 
So I ask again WHY could he not simply say, if it came to the vote whilst I'm in office I will Veto it? Whether it's going to happen or not is irrelevant he was asked if he would veto it IF it did happen and the wouldn't say no.
It was one of numerous unneeded and pointless questions and comments from the audience. Don't answer "if"s and "but"s talk about "when"s,

In the context of a 45minute programme about the EU referendum, he was talking about the points that will be voted on, he kept repeating those points even in answer to questions unrelated. He was trying to get the country to understand those main points. Not answer daft "if" questions that'll never happen
 
It was one of numerous unneeded and pointless questions and comments from the audience. Don't answer "if"s and "but"s talk about "when"s,

In the context of a 45minute programme about the EU referendum, he was talking about the points that will be voted on, he kept repeating those points even in answer to questions unrelated. He was trying to get the country to understand those main points. Not answer daft "if" questions that'll never happen
All the more confusing why he just didn't kill the question dead by saying YES if it's proposed that Turkey join the EU whilst I'm PM I will veto it. Beyond that I can't comment. Move on. He didn't and I think there a reason behind that failure to commit.
 
He had a chance to put this to bed once and for all.... I'd be asking why he never took that chance.

Everything that comes out of his mouth has to be seen in the light of him wanting a presidents job in Brussels after he's booted out of office. He is more concerned with how Brussels would react to his answer about Turkey than anything the UK might think. That's why he keeps kicking the ball into the long grass and sits on the fence. He wants to be regarded as a broker and a broker doesn't take sides.
 
All the more confusing why he just didn't kill the question dead by saying YES if it's proposed that Turkry join the EU whilst I'm PM I will veto it. Beyond that I can't comment. Move on. He didn't and I think there a reason behind that.

He likes Kebabs and so do I!
 
This is going to be closer than the bookies have it. Dave started with a pummelling but pulled it back to a certain extent. Will have gained a few votes and lost a few too, too close to call this one.
 
All the more confusing why he just didn't kill the question dead by saying YES if it's proposed that Turkry join the EU whilst I'm PM I will veto it. Beyond that I can't comment. Move on. He didn't and I think there a reason behind that.
I think it maybe because it was another opportunity to say "don't vote to make this country worse off economically by leaving the EU" and make it sound different by adding a different ending "by falling for the lie that Turkey is about to join the EU".

Plus his answer might not have been "yes" or "no" it would be a lengthy "well if they managed to change a b c d e f g h and i and work with us on j k l m n o and q we may well have a situation where I may not veto that, but then if they carried on with r s t u v w y and z then it may well be a no".

Things are never a simple yes or no in politics and you can't say "I don't know" because the public won't have it. And a 45minute programme on the EU referendum isn't the place to talk about a lengthy Turkey debate
 
Well that was rather my point ..... no-one has a Scoobie's. The only thing for sure is that there will be uncertainty until things become more, well, certain and that will have a negative impact. After that no-one can make sensible predictions because there are too many variables. So it's a question of an individual's principles vs an unquantifiable short term cost. You want to be more integrated into Europe, vote Remain. You don't, vote Leave. Basically, vote how the hell you want. Forget all the other crap. It's just noise.

And don't listen to any twats here or anywhere else that think they know better than you. Because they don't.
They do. Those cunts trying to build a better life for your kids are fighting the good fight.
 
I think it maybe because it was another opportunity to say "don't vote to make this country worse off economically by leaving the EU" and make it sound different by adding a different ending "by falling for the lie that Turkey is about to join the EU".

Plus his answer might not have been "yes" or "no" it would be a lengthy "well if they managed to change a b c d e f g h and i and work with us on j k l m n o and q we may well have a situation where I may not veto that, but then if they carried on with r s t u v w y and z then it may well be a no".

Things are never a simple yes or no in politics and you can't say "I don't know" because the public won't have it. And a 45minute programme on the EU referendum isn't the place to talk about a lengthy Turkey debate
So if they manage to change a b c d e f g h and i and work with ys on j k l m n o and q he could vote them in? In which case he says no I cannot say I won't veto them. The public want clarity, he had a chance to deliver it and failed miserably and many people across the UK will have seen that.
 
So if they manage to change a b c d e f g h and i and work with ys on j k l m n o and q he could vote them in? In which case he says no I cannot say I won't veto them. The public want clarity, he had a chance to deliver it and failed miserably and many people across the UK will have seen that.
As I've said, I don't like him and I'm not a Tory voter but he didn't fail miserably. I think he answered that question in exactly the right way.

It wasn't a good question, in fact it was quite silly it was so hypothetical, and it didn't need answering.
 
As I've said, I don't like him and I'm not a Tory voter but he didn't fail miserably. I think he answered that question in exactly the right way.

It wasn't a good question and it didn't need answering.
Fair enough you're happy with the answer, I think he failed to clarify the situation and I reckon many of the millions viewing will have seen ut that way, which I suppose is good for the Brexit campaign.
 
So if they manage to change a b c d e f g h and i and work with ys on j k l m n o and q he could vote them in? In which case he says no I cannot say I won't veto them. The public want clarity, he had a chance to deliver it and failed miserably and many people across the UK will have seen that.
And what about the rest of the uk voters wanting to remain??
 
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