Joe Hart (joined Torino on season long loan - Official)

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5948947 said:
Did you see Joe against Barcelona in the Chumps League? If you didn't he made about 20 saves and god knows how many one on ones against Messi/Suarez. If it wasn't for him it would of been about 5 - 0. In fact he's been one of our best players in the Chumps League. That says a lot.
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I support England as well as City and Joe hasn't been good enough for the national side. Somebody else deserves a chance.
 
Rolee said:
Are you really sorry?
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Yea I would like it to have been us playing France in the final on Sunday. Joe just hasn't been good enough for England.

Joe has won me over with his lerforamces for City but he's hardly made a save of note for England in the Euros or the World Cup.
 
Tim of the Oak said:
Yea I would like it to have been us playing France in the final on Sunday. Joe just hasn't been good enough for England.

Joe has won me over with his lerforamces for City but he's hardly made a save of note for England in the Euros or the World Cup.
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So you believe if it wasn't for Hart that there's a chance England would be playing the final?

What was his record in the qualifiers? 7 clean sheets from 9 or something like that.
 
Rolee said:
So you believe if it wasn't for Hart that there's a chance England would be playing the final?

What was his record in the qualifiers? 7 clean sheets from 9 or something like that.
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Beating Iceland for starters would have nice. The whole team were at fault

So you'd rather see England lose with Hart in goal. Joe's deserves a break from the England side
 
Tim of the Oak said:
Beating Iceland for starters would have nice. The whole team were at fault

So you'd rather see England lose with Hart in goal. Joe's deserves a break from the England side
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Couldn't care less about England tbh but I'm interested in how you came to that conclusion?
 
Rolee said:
Couldn't care less about England tbh but I'm interested in how you came to that conclusion?
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Simple. Joe's mistakes in 4 games (2 goals given away) and the lack os a single top quality save.

I want both Coty and England to prosper. At the moment Joe isn't an international quality Keeper.
 
Tim of the Oak said:
Simple. Joe's mistakes in 4 games (2 goals given away) and the lack os a single top quality save.

I want both Coty and England to prosper. At the moment Joe isn't an international quality Keeper.
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Still can't figure out what led you to that conclusion.
 
media again having a pop about joe hart playing for england ??????
the wales and bale free kick was a mistake but the dip on the ball did for joe and the wall so could only see it late
the iceland goal was more of a team and lack of closing down letting him have a shot but again joe save them 99 times out of 100

but how many outfield players could have been picked out for having a bad euro's and for the captain ROONEY should not have been there in the first place and then picked for a midfield role. easy targets are manchester city players we just dont have a iron rod in the media to stop them
 
Joe Hart is currently the most consistent English goalkeeper by a considerable distance.

However, he’s also made some crucial mistakes, for both club and country, and more importantly, the number of mistakes have seemingly increased over the last couple of seasons.

Personally, I thought his first fifteen minutes at home to Liverpool last season were utterly bizarre. I still shudder at the memory of the City Free Kick when he gifted the ball to an unsuspecting Coutinho,and it's worth remembering that some of his biggest cock-ups didn't actually lead to goals.

Yes, he’s had some individual brilliant performances, most notably at Barcelona and Monchengladbach, but goalkeepers are mostly judged by their number of errors.

I’m not for one moment suggesting that we replace him, but his biggest fans should stop making excuses. He needs to knuckle-down and focus.
 
ancoats said:
media again having a pop about joe hart playing for england ??????
the wales and bale free kick was a mistake but the dip on the ball did for joe and the wall so could only see it late
the iceland goal was more of a team and lack of closing down letting him have a shot but again joe save them 99 times out of 100

but how many outfield players could have been picked out for having a bad euro's and for the captain ROONEY should not have been there in the first place and then picked for a midfield role. easy targets are manchester city players we just dont have a iron rod in the media to stop them
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That first paragraph is a bit of a joke tbh - blue tinted glasses at its finest. The Bale goal was terrible goalkeeping regardless of any perceived 'dip' you might think it had. The Iceland one was even worse. It doesn't matter that the defence were slow to get out and close the man down, once they've cocked up you're relying on your keeper to pull you out of the shit. Now had it been a great finish hard and low into the corner then Joe would be blameless, instead it was hardly hit with any power and going nowhere near the corner. Joe reacted too late and was too slow getting down when he eventually dived. There's no excuse for those two goals - just poor goalkeeping by somebody who's better than what he's shown in the euros.
 
This is fkin ridiculous...... Joe Hart has more City blood running through his veins than any other keeper in the world. Not only that is he rather quite good, maybe not the best in the prem but certainly up there. And then this man, who has a lot of loyalty and passion for the club, you would sack him? wtf! Great loyalty to our players.

What sickens me is that all this comes from the City hating press and some fans believe it. It's like if the media say it enough they brainwash the nation.... We have the best all round keeper for our club, cannot get better commitment and skill and ability. Maybe drop him for a couple of games, but get rid of loyal players? feck off.

But, having seen Pep and his lovel heaaded approach I think he will judge Hart on the whole picture, not just two mistakes or press reports about how poor he is.
 
That Banks article is embarrassing.

He said he'd put Butland in now and keep him there.... after admitting “I’ve seen him play a little bit. I’ve heard that he practices quite a lot and works hard so you couldn’t wish for a better goalkeeper than that.”

So you'd drop the current keeper as you've seen the other other one play a bit, and heard he practices a lot...
 
babyape said:
That Banks article is embarrassing.

He said he'd put Butland in now and keep him there.... after admitting “I’ve seen him play a little bit. I’ve heard that he practices quite a lot and works hard so you couldn’t wish for a better goalkeeper than that.”

So you'd drop the current keeper as you've seen the other other one play a bit, and heard he practices a lot...
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He should stick to the graffiti
 
Interestingly Neuer isn't getting the hammering Heart's had after his cock up last night which effectively ended the Germans's chances of getting back into the game.
 
Mike D said:
Interestingly Neuer isn't getting the hammering Heart's had after his cock up last night which effectively ended the Germans's chances of getting back into the game.
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It doesn't matter, his passing is amazing.
 
rapidCT said:
It doesn't matter, his passing is amazing.
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As is the rest of his game on the whole. Joes feet wouldn't touch the ground if there was a chance to get him here.
It's strange how people try and mock the best in the world to make themselves feel better about Joe. Very insecure.
 
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