Maybe Citys position has changed over this pre-season. Maybe Pep has had a look at who he has at his disposal and maybe he is more relaxed about the situation now that he has seen Tosin and maybe Vinne is nearer to full fitness and he hasnt met EM yet
It may have been that at the start of the transfer window City felt this and full back were positions that needed strengthening but now that he has seen in the flesh what he has to work with he is more relaxed and so this take it or leave it position is one that he and the club are happy with..just a thought
Why didn't he go to Chelsea last season? Did they not meet the asking price, or did Stones eventually just decide to stay?Hi, Everton fan here. Agree with this post completely, no fan of any club (including ours) should be advocating players going on strike - its disgusting and unprofessional.
Anyway, Stones has met with Moshiri and told him he wants to leave. Moshiri is happy to let him go as long as the valuation is met. £50mill is a lot but we rejected £40mill last year and this year, especially with the extra £££ coming in has seen values rise again so this is about right. Also if you buy him, he becomes the world class defender most Evertonians expect and he stays the rest of his career, that fee will be a bargain.
Finally, I still think we expect him to leave but cant see us letting him go until we have his replacement signed otherwise it leaves us vunerable. We have made a huge bid for Koulibaly so if we get him in then Stones is on his way to you.
You can have upto 25 players over the age of 22, but only 17 none homegrown, so you can have 8 homegrown players and 17 NHG. You can have as many young players (below 22) as you want. Essentially City have had to make do with a smaller squad.
Why didn't he go to Chelsea last season? Did they not meet the asking price, or did Stones eventually just decide to stay?
Hi @BlueToffee, no-one is advocating Stones doing any such thing, so I don't know where @@BluePhil8 got that from. I get you want the best for your club as do we for City and I suppose the 15% sell on fee to Barnsley is complicating matters at Everton's end. As it stands though, as far as I'm aware Stones hasn't actually submitted an official written transfer request and has only told the club he wants to leave, can you shed any light of this from a Toffees fan's perspective?Hi, Everton fan here. Agree with this post completely, no fan of any club (including ours) should be advocating players going on strike - its disgusting and unprofessional.
Anyway, Stones has met with Moshiri and told him he wants to leave. Moshiri is happy to let him go as long as the valuation is met. £50mill is a lot but we rejected £40mill last year and this year, especially with the extra £££ coming in has seen values rise again so this is about right. Also if you buy him, he becomes the world class defender most Evertonians expect and he stays the rest of his career, that fee will be a bargain.
Finally, I still think we expect him to leave but cant see us letting him go until we have his replacement signed otherwise it leaves us vulnerable. We have made a huge bid for Koulibaly so if we get him in then Stones is on his way to you.
Why didn't he go to Chelsea last season? Did they not meet the asking price, or did Stones eventually just decide to stay?
That all sounds very reasonable. It is a lot of money with the English premium added but we should bite the bullet on this one, this being a pivotal position in Pep's system. Hope it gets done soon.Hi, Everton fan here. Agree with this post completely, no fan of any club (including ours) should be advocating players going on strike - its disgusting and unprofessional.
Anyway, Stones has met with Moshiri and told him he wants to leave. Moshiri is happy to let him go as long as the valuation is met. £50mill is a lot but we rejected £40mill last year and this year, especially with the extra £££ coming in has seen values rise again so this is about right. Also if you buy him, he becomes the world class defender most Evertonians expect and he stays the rest of his career, that fee will be a bargain.
Finally, I still think we expect him to leave but cant see us letting him go until we have his replacement signed otherwise it leaves us vunerable. We have made a huge bid for Koulibaly so if we get him in then Stones is on his way to you.
50 million quid seems way too pricey to me at this stage of Stones's career. Maybe a compromise can be reached with a 40 mil fee + 10 mil in add ons based on Stones's development?I think people just assumed we were being stubborn last year and wanted more money when in fact, I think the fee Chelsea offered would have got him if it hadnt have been so late in the window.
We flat out rejected a £20mill and £25mill bid earlier on however the £40mill bid come around the 28th August (if I remember rightly). There was no way we could have replaced him properly within a few days. If they had bid the £40mill 3-4 weeks earlier he wod have been a Chelsea player now.
Hi, Everton fan here. Agree with this post completely, no fan of any club (including ours) should be advocating players going on strike - its disgusting and unprofessional.
Anyway, Stones has met with Moshiri and told him he wants to leave. Moshiri is happy to let him go as long as the valuation is met. £50mill is a lot but we rejected £40mill last year and this year, especially with the extra £££ coming in has seen values rise again so this is about right. Also if you buy him, he becomes the world class defender most Evertonians expect and he stays the rest of his career, that fee will be a bargain.
Finally, I still think we expect him to leave but cant see us letting him go until we have his replacement signed otherwise it leaves us vunerable. We have made a huge bid for Koulibaly so if we get him in then Stones is on his way to you.
Hi @BlueToffee, no-one is advocating Stones doing any such thing, so I don't know where @@BluePhil8 got that from. I get you want the best for your club as do we for City and I suppose the 15% sell on fee to Barnsley is complicating matters at Everton's end. As it stands though, as far as I'm aware Stones hasn't actually submitted an official written transfer request and has only told the club he wants to leave, can you shed any light of this from a Toffees fan's perspective?
I believe the phase I don't want to go to Chelsea was usedI thought he didn't want to go to London.
Surely if Stones was seen as that pivotal, we would have "bit the bullet ". I think the club are doing this correctly. Time will tell whether we reach agreement or notThat all sounds very reasonable. It is a lot of money with the English premium added but we should bite the bullet on this one, this being a pivotal position in Pep's system. Hope it gets done soon.
Not having a go but don't get the getting a player in first bit ,wouldn't that also strengthen city's hand knowing you had to sell stones to recoup your money back ?and actually reduce stones asking price
It could play out you are then left with a new centre half you didn't need and stones
Oh, I'm sure we will do it correctly. I'm not suggesting we should pay ANY amount to get it done but I can see why this signing would get preference over, for example, a full back, given what we already have and the way Pep's teams set up. I can understand Everton wanting to get Koulibaly tied up before parting with Stones given who they're dealing with, Di Laurentiis, who by all accounts is a ball breaker. Remember when Cavani was up for sale? And Higuain wasn't exactly complementary about him this week. Not our problem of course but factors like that affect the dynamics of these transfers.Surely if Stones was seen as that pivotal, we would have "bit the bullet ". I think the club are doing this correctly. Time will tell whether we reach agreement or not
Personal view is that £40M is a sensible limit and I hope we stick to it. Nobody else queueing round the Block at £40M. I think Everton would be left with a really passed off player; turning down Chelsea is one thing, missing the chance of playing for a coach who could turn him into a world class player would really hurt the lad
Maureen really wanted him last summer but didn't pay what Everton wanted. This year he's somewhere where they're clearly going to spend whatever to try and get back to the CL and he knows Everton's price, yet he's not even bid. Appears to be us or no one.
If I was trying to sell my house and only getting one offer and no one else even looking, I may have to accept the price is too high. Wonder if Everton will see sense in August, or will they just claim he was confused over summer again
This sums it up for me. Everton hold the acesBut we are not trying to sell our house, we'd rather keep it as we love it. However if a very good offer come along we would reluctantly accept.
That's why I don't get the 'take it or leave it' stance. I think Everton will happily leave it as we would love Stones to stay and learn from one of the best ball playing CB's there was. However, anyone could see why he would want the chance to work with Guardiola, but only if a deal suits us, not City or Stones.