18 | Stefan Ortega - 2022/23 Performances

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Couple of times he was left out of position and a better team might have tried from distance. But they didn't, so whatever.

Also there were a few times where he seemed to wait a little too long on the ball, but you can also argue there was no movement from anyone. Plus the final long ball to the right wing also ended up finding its man pretty much every time.

All in all, your backup keeps a clean sheet, that's all you want. Good job.
 
Nethermoor said:
I loved that he didn’t panic under pressure. Similar to Ederson….

That’s not easy as a goalkeeper. But he’s obviously got a good talent with his feet
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That's the thing though recently Ederson has been panicking under pressure and just constantly lumping it up the pitch or wrongly passing to players with an opposition player basically on top of them.

Rather than do that Ortega was happy to sit on the ball until an option presented itself. People in match thread were berating him for taking too long when they should have been praising his willingness to be on the ball when there was a lack of movement and options for him.
 
01cravend said:
That's the thing though recently Ederson has been panicking under pressure and just constantly lumping it up the pitch or wrongly passing to players with an opposition player basically on top of them.

Rather than do that Ortega was happy to sit on the ball until an option presented itself. People in match thread were berating him for taking too long when they should have been praising his willingness to be on the ball when there was a lack of movement and options for him.
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I partially agree with this, but I think he should be slightly more active in planning where the ball is going before it gets to him.

On a few occasions, there were good openings which he didn't spot, and were gone by the time he did.

Overall I've been impressed with him every time he's played, excepting that daft goal at Southampton when everyone was terrible.
 
mcfcpride said:
Does Ortega deserve a run in the PL? View attachment 67290
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Nothing surprising about those stats. One can come to the same conclusion by simply utilizing the eye test. Its basically become a choice between loyalty and a long run of success versus the willingness to explore the possibility of getting better at the position. The idea that there is no one who is a better overall fit for us than Eddy is simply not true or based in fact. Its a romantic notion subscribed to by a segment of supporters who won't consider that there may be better options at this time than Eddy. Ortega may be one. JMO
 
Great keeper and comfortable with the ball at his feet.

Saturday he was calm, people around me getting frustrated he didn't pass it sooner, but what's the point only to lose the ball? There was a lack of movement/players being marked for the first 30 mins or so. I think Vinny had obviously briefed their lads on how the ball comes out from the back.

Worked for a bit, after the goal went in it eased off.
 
i don't think stephan could be blamed for his slowish distribution , i just think it was the way burnley basically went man for man all over the pitch , id rather he kept it until a man became free,or at least had enough space, stephan is a very good replacement for edi until pep sees fit to swap keepers and makes stephan no1, not sure what edi has done wrong to warrant that change ,but i'm sure our resident goalkeeping experts will be along shortly to tell me what their trained eyes see that our professional coaching staff can :)

edersons performances have not warranted this constant call for him to be dropped , except the ridiculous "oNe sHoT oNE gOal" that seems to pop up if we manage to perform below our standards, which usually means edi is left exposed and concedes , the same goalkeeping experts that are bigging up stephans performance v burnley when really he didn't have a lot to do and his distribution was a little shaky at the start of the match.

city's goalkeeping has always been of great interest to me, i was a goalkeeper for many years , not at a high level :) ,sat and sun leagues and chosen for south stockport for a few seasons , this doesn't mean i claim to be an expert , but i like to think i know a good keeper when i see one , and edi and stephan are both very good keepers , i would be happy to have either start , however i think edi is the better keeper.

all imo of course
 
Sir peace frog said:
i don't think stephan could be blamed for his slowish distribution , i just think it was the way burnley basically went man for man all over the pitch , id rather he kept it until a man became free,or at least had enough space, stephan is a very good replacement for edi until pep sees fit to swap keepers and makes stephan no1, not sure what edi has done wrong to warrant that change ,but i'm sure our resident goalkeeping experts will be along shortly to tell me what their trained eyes see that our professional coaching staff can :)

edersons performances have not warranted this constant call for him to be dropped , except the ridiculous "oNe sHoT oNE gOal" that seems to pop up if we manage to perform below our standards, which usually means edi is left exposed and concedes , the same goalkeeping experts that are bigging up stephans performance v burnley when really he didn't have a lot to do and his distribution was a little shaky at the start of the match.

city's goalkeeping has always been of great interest to me, i was a goalkeeper for many years , not at a high level :) ,sat and sun leagues and chosen for south stockport for a few seasons , this doesn't mean i claim to be an expert , but i like to think i know a good keeper when i see one , and edi and stephan are both very good keepers , i would be happy to have either start , however i think edi is the better keeper.

all imo of course
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I was always think our constant possession makes our keeper not ready enough when the ball is lost and suddenly our team is being attacked by opposition. It's very hard to be in focus with very few real challenges for our keeper besides being a passing option because how good we are as team to retain possesion majority of time.
 
The whole point of distributing the ball the way we play is to disrupt the opponents - so often you don't want your free man (in this case, the goalie) to pass until they are being pressed, because it's the pressing that creates space elsewhere.
 
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