Trevor Morley's Tache
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He ignored the moderator, butted in at every opportunity and constantly tried to talk over Harris.
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2020 US Elections
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I think he won because he did. But feel free to tell us why you think she won. All opinions are worth a listenI disagree and I’m not shocked you think he won either
CNN has shifted further left in the last 4 years. There are YouTube videos that splice the views of their anchors from a few years ago and now all over YouTube. It's quite revealing the shift.How right wing does one have to be to believe that CNN are “hardcore left”. Christ. I’d love to know your ‘Middle’ is.
Yes, they can do so I'd they choose. But like the Biden rule that started this whole dumb 51 senate vote for confirmation. It will in the end serve no one. As the next time Republicans take over, they'd simply just add more.1) I assume you believe by ‘stacking’, you mean ‘balancing my a Court that’s GoP dominated since 1969.
2) As would be their constitutional right if they have the votes.
Packing the Court simply destroys it. They know this. But partisan stupidity is on the rise.
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I heard he let a fly land on his head. What are flies attracted to? Can't quite bring it to mind.What did he do?
I believe the fly's twitter account now has nearly 100k followers.
They both ignored the moderator. Who while better, could have been better at letting them an extra minute to finish a sentence or thought.He ignored the moderator, butted in at every opportunity and constantly tried to talk over Harris.
Cutting in when the other has said something wrong is a tradition that had gone on for years. So long as you are respectful and often let the other finish. Which they both did.
Pence did nothing to reduce votes amongst women who were going to vote Republican anyways. Nothing he could have done would have changed the minds of liberal women. They were not a concern for him nor he of interest to them.
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Nothing if you are an independent or Conservative. Insulted and degraded women, by daring to butt in and ask a question about her claim or push for an answer she was attempting to evade, if you are leftist or anti-Trump.What did he do?
I mean they both ignored the moderator often. But only Pence apparently doesn't respect women.
Uncle Wally One Ball
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Just generally a pontificating robot who came across a bit condescending by ignoring both women and continually talking despite being told his time was up.What did he do?
"Will the President accept the election result if he loses"Pence wiped the floor with her...."will you pack the court"...………..boom
*crickets*
It's a non-answer. But a perfectly acceptable one. "We won't lose. And for the record, the only people who have whined in the past for losing, and continue to do so are those on the other side." (paraphrasing*)"Will the President accept the election result if he loses"
*crickets*
I thought it was a perfectly fine non-answer to a ridiculous question.
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Why do you think it was a ridiculous question?It's a non-answer. But a perfectly acceptable one. "We won't lose. And for the record, the only people who have whined in the past for losing, and continue to do so are those on the other side." (paraphrasing*)
I thought it was a perfectly fine non-answer to a ridiculous question.
Focusing solely on the debate, I didn't think there was a clear winner. It was close enough that Democrats will say Kamala won and Republicans will say Pence did, maybe 60/40 in either direction in a push. Pence is a ridiculous liar, but he's good at it.
Unfortunately for the Republicans they're losing this election by a lot, and every day that goes by without changing that dynamic is lost. All Kamala needed to do was avoid disaster and she did better than that.
Unfortunately for the Republicans they're losing this election by a lot, and every day that goes by without changing that dynamic is lost. All Kamala needed to do was avoid disaster and she did better than that.
MillionMilesAway
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2nd debate announced to be virtual.
Orange Don says he won't take part.
Can we introduce America to the Tub Of Lard option (although a tub of lard would be replacing a tub of lard, and was on the winning side).
Orange Don says he won't take part.
Can we introduce America to the Tub Of Lard option (although a tub of lard would be replacing a tub of lard, and was on the winning side).
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Why do you think it was a ridiculous question?
He's a big Trump fan.
FogBlueInSanFran
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And, no shock, Trump refuses to do a virtual debate, prompting this very funny tweet . . .
Why is it a ridiculous question when the President himself won't commit to it?It's a non-answer. But a perfectly acceptable one. "We won't lose. And for the record, the only people who have whined in the past for losing, and continue to do so are those on the other side." (paraphrasing*)
I thought it was a perfectly fine non-answer to a ridiculous question.
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Rebecca Solnit Guardian US columnist......
She traces the root of the problem to the philosophy of the cult of individual freedom, disconnected from societal consequences, which she argues lies at the heart of current Republican ideology. She says:
"The pandemic focused and intensified the need to recognize the interconnectedness of all things—in this case the way that viruses spread and the responsibility of those in power and each of us to do what we can to limit that spread, and to recognize the consequences that could break our educational system, our economy, and our daily lives and hopes and dreams if we did not take care, of ourselves, each other, and the whole.
The contemporary right has one central principle: nothing is really connected to anything else, so no one has any responsibility for anything else, and any attempt to, say, prevent a factory from poisoning a river is an infringement on freedom. They reject the evidence of climate change and other scientific realities on the grounds that it displeases them by undermining their ideology, rather than on the evidence. Freedom as they uphold it is the right to do anything you want with utter disregard for others.
In their logic, poverty must be caused by individual failings, not by systematic inequality and obstacles. Gun deaths must be disassociated from the deregulation and proliferation of guns. Taxes are a form of oppression, since no one owes anyone anything. Those who benefit from the system that taxes underwrite – infrastructure, law enforcement, education of workers – deny that their success has anything to do with anything but their own bootstrapping virtue and hard work. Climate change’s underlying message that what we do has longterm planetary consequences outrages their sense of autonomy."
She traces the root of the problem to the philosophy of the cult of individual freedom, disconnected from societal consequences, which she argues lies at the heart of current Republican ideology. She says:
"The pandemic focused and intensified the need to recognize the interconnectedness of all things—in this case the way that viruses spread and the responsibility of those in power and each of us to do what we can to limit that spread, and to recognize the consequences that could break our educational system, our economy, and our daily lives and hopes and dreams if we did not take care, of ourselves, each other, and the whole.
The contemporary right has one central principle: nothing is really connected to anything else, so no one has any responsibility for anything else, and any attempt to, say, prevent a factory from poisoning a river is an infringement on freedom. They reject the evidence of climate change and other scientific realities on the grounds that it displeases them by undermining their ideology, rather than on the evidence. Freedom as they uphold it is the right to do anything you want with utter disregard for others.
In their logic, poverty must be caused by individual failings, not by systematic inequality and obstacles. Gun deaths must be disassociated from the deregulation and proliferation of guns. Taxes are a form of oppression, since no one owes anyone anything. Those who benefit from the system that taxes underwrite – infrastructure, law enforcement, education of workers – deny that their success has anything to do with anything but their own bootstrapping virtue and hard work. Climate change’s underlying message that what we do has longterm planetary consequences outrages their sense of autonomy."
I'm sure Dax will come up with a long winded answer that goes all around the houses without actually saying much, but we all know it's basically because anyone connected to Trump is a massive **** - including all his supporters.Why is it a ridiculous question when the President himself won't commit to it?
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As opposed to a 6-3 with 5 of the 6 conservative justices being installed by presidents who didn’t win the popular vote. Yeah, that’s not ruining it at all.Packing the Court simply destroys it. They know this. But partisan stupidity is on the rise.
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You think he won because you like him and his party and you think Harris is a communist.I think he won because he did.
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Hardcore left you said. So what are these hardcore radical policies they want to see? Is it equal Gender rights (eeek), is it racial justice (oh fuck that’s horrible), is it the ability for all to have access to medical treatment without going bankrupt for receiving cancer treatment (the cunts!).CNN has shifted further left in the last 4 years.
What is it that is ‘hardcore left’ about them? Now remember you’re posting on a Mancunian based forum and what you call ‘hardcore left’ is viewed as centre and/or centre right over here.
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Weird how all four podcasts I’ve listened to analysing the debate disagree with you in the strongest terms.They both ignored the moderator. Who while better, could have been better at letting them an extra minute to finish a sentence or thought.
Cutting in when the other has said something wrong is a tradition that had gone on for years. So long as you are respectful and often let the other finish. Which they both did.
Pence did nothing to reduce votes amongst women who were going to vote Republican anyways. Nothing he could have done would have changed the minds of liberal women. They were not a concern for him nor he of interest to them.
As for who interrupted who, you’re using false equivalency again.
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