2022 World Cup Discussion

SidJames said:
I am trying with much difficulty to get in to the spirit of the World Cup.

A month of Football coming up. I should be excited.

Yet i am not....It is not helping the event is happening in the Western Hemisphere Autumn, with cold dark early nights and shit loads of rain.

You read the Western MSM Papers etc. And they are slaughtering Qatar at every opportunity.

Sure there are valid concerns over abuses going on in Qatar.

You can not help feeling though. Is it really all about the deaths of construction workers, human rights abuses etc. Or is this just being used as the excuse to demonize a whole country and ruin the Football carnival before it even begins. A bit like the shit our brown skinned owners get on a regular basis. Yet white American owners get a free pass for operating the same way.

I wish we would keep politics and Sport separate.

Demonizing the Majority for the actions of a political minority.

Football should be used to unite and build bridges.

Not be politicised to condemn and divide.
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I can't agree.

Everything about this world Cup is wrong. The two leading figures Platini and Blatter found to be corrupt with the latter recently admitting this should not have gone ahead. It is too small a venue for a WC.

This was supposed to be in summer in air conditioned stadiums, instead moved to winter. With no build up and many "Legacy" (**** of a word) fans pissed off their seasons have been interrupted in this fashion. As a fan experience I can't imagine this will be great. Hosting a WC a month before Xmas means most people won't be able to attend.

Just to be clear, I thought Russia was a disgrace of WC an I am amazed how little criticism there has been of that decision. FIFA look ridiculous right now, they would hold the World Cup in the Astropark in Didsbury if the back hander was big enough. This is another slow step, nation's league etc to international football becoming obsolete.
 
Big-P said:
Who’s even arsed? Sure somebody else will have said this but it feels like an international version of the Fifa Club World. Championship, pointless ballache in some corrupt medieval shithole. Not for me.
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Longest international break in history, and we all fucking hate them, bad enough at 2 weeks but 6!
 
Crooked_rain said:
Everyone is righteous until the right money is on the table

Did Gary Lineker ever house a refugee in the end like he said? Course not.


Gary Neville’s reasoning is “it’s better to be out there and spread awareness than sat at home” - ok Gaz, fair enough, so go out there and spread the important message, but refuse to accept a penny for doing so, that’s the right thing to do if your morals are in the place you always portray. I’d respect it if he did that. Will he? Absolutely not.

The truth is, I don’t care if people go out there and get paid. We all own stuff made in terrible conditions and what not. They should just be honest about it, they’re going for the dough and they don’t really care as much about the other stuff they preach about.

I prefer Beckham’s recent shameless approach rather than Neville talking out the side of his mouth about human rights while lining his pockets.
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What do you expect?

Name 1 Nation, Player or somebody working in the game for a Team that qualified who has refused to go!

There isn't 1.

Why would media types who make their living from footy refuse to go.

I find these annoying self righteous publicity seeking shits (Hislop for example on HIGNFY) more annoying.
 
Just to give a bit of context to the price of beer discussion, the last time I went to a Toronto Maple Leafs game (probably 5 years ago) I’m pretty certain that draught beer was around $12 a pint. In the Hot Stove Lounge an admittedly fantastic Burger and Fries would set you back the best part of $30. A night out for two people including average match tickets would cost $300 to $400
 
Josh_D said:
I have to confess…I’ve done it. After events in my life this year, I can’t or rather I’ve been strongly advised to avoid.

Hence, will be skipping any England games early on.
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I’m actually having a dry period too. Might as well use the fun sponge that is the World Cup to look after my body a bit, although it’s looking likely that I’ll be in town for the Wales match as it should be a cracking atmosphere.
 
SWP's back said:
You can very legally drink in Qatar at tens if not hundreds of bars and nightclubs and people get just as drunk as they do in the U.K. or Marbella or anywhere.

It’s also illegal to be publicly drunk in the U.K. don’t forget.
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Fair enough. I’d imagine you’re talking about people who have a drink and don’t then throw tables and chairs around, piss in fountains and tell anyone who’s listening what wankers they are?
Also there’s still something about being in a crowd of Engerland fans that would make me think twice about getting tanked up, even in Blighty.….
 
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FIFA handed Russia a world cup hosting in 2018 and 4 years later they are invading Ukraine.

That says it all really about this whole farce of awarding it to Russia and Qatar.
 
What the fuck is Infantino going on about? Has lost his fucking mind?

“today I feel Arab, today I feel African, today I feel gay, today I feel migrant worker. "

Fuck me!
 
ysmsa said:
What do you expect?

Name 1 Nation, Player or somebody working in the game for a Team that qualified who has refused to go!

There isn't 1.

Why would media types who make their living from footy refuse to go.

I find these annoying self righteous publicity seeking shits (Hislop for example on HIGNFY) more annoying.
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Well indeed

As I said, I don’t care if people wanna go there and get paid. I would if it was my line of work.

I just wouldn’t do a Gary Neville and insult peoples intelligence and say my reason for accepting the work is because it’s better to be there and talking about issues. We know his reason for going is because he’s getting paid well and there’s nothing wrong with earning a crust.
 
SWP's back said:
You can very legally drink in Qatar at tens if not hundreds of bars and nightclubs and people get just as drunk as they do in the U.K. or Marbella or anywhere.

It’s also illegal to be publicly drunk in the U.K. don’t forget.
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That's an incredible fact really isn't it, I for one didn't know that you could get bladdered in Qatar and that they even have bars there.
 
Bazzmand Show said:
FIFA handed Russia a world cup hosting in 2018 and 4 years later they are invading Ukraine.

That says it all really about this whole farce of awarding it to Russia and Qatar.
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Bang on the filthy money mate absolutely,
It’s mad how people with just 24 hrs to go are up in arms now … we’ve had years to do something yet we do nothing but accept a corrupt organisation that’s disrupted our own life’s in going to a match what we should be going to or watching today. Unfortunately the European super league will take a step nearer after this whole shit show of a World Cup the power struggle will begin very shortly the ammunition is there .
 
Looby blue said:
What the fuck is Infantino going on about? Has lost his fucking mind?

“today I feel Arab, today I feel African, today I feel gay, today I feel migrant worker. "

Fuck me!
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Blue Mink, later covered by Alan Partridge :-)



"Take a pinch of white man
Wrap him up in black skin
Add a touch of blue blood
And a little bitty bit of red Indian boy
Oh like a Curly Latin kinkies
Oh Lordy, Lordy, mixed with yellow Chinkees, yeah
You know you lump it all together
And you got a recipe for a get along scene
Oh what a beautiful dream
If it could only come true, you know, you know
What we need is a great big melting pot"
 
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A57 the snake said:
Bang on the filthy money mate absolutely,
It’s mad how people with just 24 hrs to go are up in arms now … we’ve had years to do something yet we do nothing but accept a corrupt organisation that’s disrupted our own life’s in going to a match what we should be going to or watching today. Unfortunately the European super league will take a step nearer after this whole shit show of a World Cup the power struggle will begin very shortly the ammunition is there .
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That I think will be the legacy of this tournament, the destruction of international football and a step closer to the superleague. When the organisation that runs football pisses on tradition, they then can't fall back on it to protect themselves from the likes of Perez at Madrid an the host of American owners.

Once you start fucking about with tradition it drains prestige and then it becomes very hard to fix. The dicking about with utd and the FA Cup was in my opinion a catalyst for the decline in that cups importance. Not the only one, just like the Qatar WC won't be the only reason, for the decline of international football but it will accelerate it.
 
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