#47 | Phil Foden - 2021/22 Performances

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Foden, Dias and Haaland could hopefully be the new Silva, Aguero and Kompany, which was the new Lee, Bell and Summerbee. Happy days
 
His improving displays as a F9 is slowly making the case for not playing with strikers.

I don't know if people realize this when they say "If only we had a striker, he'd score a hattrick every game", but when we play a F9, it gives us more control to our game and we create more chances for the wingers and attacking midfielders which causes score lines like these 5+ to be common.

When you play with a real striker you somewhat lose that control and don't create as many chances, you get the benefit of a more elite finisher though.

It's definitely an option you still need in your attack, and with someone like Haaland you probably make that sacrifice in control for it be your starting choice... but Phil is slowly showing Messi-esque reasons for F9 dominance.
 
His improving displays as a F9 is slowly making the case for not playing with strikers.

I don't know if people realize this when they say "If only we had a striker, he'd score a hattrick every game", but when we play a F9, it gives us more control to our game and we create more chances for the wingers and attacking midfielders which causes score lines like these 5+ to be common.

When you play with a real striker you somewhat lose that control and don't create as many chances, you get the benefit of a more elite finisher though.

It's definitely an option you still need in your attack, and with someone like Haaland you probably make that sacrifice in control for it be your starting choice... but Phil is slowly showing Messi-esque reasons for F9 dominance.

Phil to have potential going to be half of prime messi was is still tremendous for us.

Can't wait to see Phil in the future in goat conversation.
 
His improving displays as a F9 is slowly making the case for not playing with strikers.

I don't know if people realize this when they say "If only we had a striker, he'd score a hattrick every game", but when we play a F9, it gives us more control to our game and we create more chances for the wingers and attacking midfielders which causes score lines like these 5+ to be common.

When you play with a real striker you somewhat lose that control and don't create as many chances, you get the benefit of a more elite finisher though.

It's definitely an option you still need in your attack, and with someone like Haaland you probably make that sacrifice in control for it be your starting choice... but Phil is slowly showing Messi-esque reasons for F9 dominance.
If foden could make some torres like movements he could be made for the 9
 
If foden could make some torres like movements he could be made for the 9
Torres basically plays upfront there isn’t much false about him in the role. Foden would be completely wasted there. You see the difference when he can pick the ball up deep like the other night and against Chelsea away the only 2 real great involvements he had was when he was wide left and more as an 8 when he put Grealish through. The rest of the game he was wasted up top. The other night was the first time he’s played well there but they were very open at times.

Obviously this isn’t a dig at Foden he’s incredible and possibly our best false 9. I still think playing there regularly will be a waste of his supreme talents though.
 
Torres basically plays upfront there isn’t much false about him in the role. Foden would be completely wasted there. You see the difference when he can pick the ball up deep like the other night and against Chelsea away the only 2 real great involvements he had was when he was wide left and more as an 8 when he put Grealish through. The rest of the game he was wasted up top. The other night was the first time he’s played well there but they were very open at times.

Obviously this isn’t a dig at Foden he’s incredible and possibly our best false 9. I still think playing there regularly will be a waste of his supreme talents though.
complete disagree. if you play him on the wing you lose his playmaking if you play him on the midfield you lose his attacking threat but as a false 9 you can have the best of both worlds. the reason he was ineffective as false 9 at chelsea is because he didn't play well as he should have. Foden is still learning the false 9 position, there was no inherent flaw in the system, he just need to learn more and play at a higher level against top teams.
 
His improving displays as a F9 is slowly making the case for not playing with strikers.

I don't know if people realize this when they say "If only we had a striker, he'd score a hattrick every game", but when we play a F9, it gives us more control to our game and we create more chances for the wingers and attacking midfielders which causes score lines like these 5+ to be common.

When you play with a real striker you somewhat lose that control and don't create as many chances, you get the benefit of a more elite finisher though.

It's definitely an option you still need in your attack, and with someone like Haaland you probably make that sacrifice in control for it be your starting choice... but Phil is slowly showing Messi-esque reasons for F9 dominance.

Not necessarily. We could move to a back three instead of a back four. That would create a role for a real 9 in the starting XI. Probably wouldn't be great against the better sides, but games like Southampton at home, we could have done with one.

It's not the game like Brugge that matters, it's the Tottenhams, Southamptons etc where we struggle to break the other team down. That's when we need an out and out CF.
 
There aren't any, but I look forward to having a good laugh at the names he puts forward.

Paul Gascoigne was an absolute one-off. I've never seen a more talented English footballer in 60+ years of watching.
Did you see Tom finney play. His team mate Tommy docherty said he was the Messi of his day. Bill shankly said he was the best player he ever saw. Team mate Stanley Mathew's says he was up there with Maradona. De stefano, cruff, best, Pele etc.

Surely finney must have been more talented than gazza.
 
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