Macca77macca
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Had an interesting debate today about Stones.
When talking of all time Premier League XI central defenders, I would imagine on average he would be around 7th/8th choice in nominations, if that,
The usual elite ones would be Terry, Ferdinand, Vidic, Campbell and then the next ones mentioned would be Stam, Van Dijk, Kompany, even Carvalho but never Stones.
When you compare his career to what the majority would consider the top two, Terry and Ferdinand it is baffling how he isn’t mentioned even near this list.
LEAGUE TITLES
Stones - 6
Ferdinand - 6
Terry - 5
DOMESTIC CUPS
Terry - 8
Stones - 4
Ferdinand - 2
CHAMPIONS LEAGUE
All 1
ENGLAND CAPS
Ferdinand - 81
Stones - 79
Terry - 78
ENGLAND SUCCESS
Stones - 2 x Euro finals
Ferdinand and Terry - QF’s
TREBLE WINNER
Stones - 1
Ferdinand and Terry - 0
DOMESTIC TREBLE
Stones - 1
Ferdinand and Terry - 0
Is it simply his injury record that doesn’t give him the plaudits or is it just he hasn’t got the PR like the other two?
There is a high chances Stones could surpass both in all success on paper but I still don’t think he would even come into the debate if they were picking a 40th anniversary team in 2033.
John has more than 4 Domestic cups right?
4 league?
2 FA
I don’t know if it’s true people wouldn’t put him in all time PL XL. TBH the thing that would seal it is a trophy with England.
I always think he is just too classy as a player, no need for him to be all dramatically defendery which lots of people like in a defender. He doesn’t need to do that as can just nick the ball off someone and make it look so elegant.
The mistake thing just irritates me. When did that last happen? Years and years ago. And even then not much was always over blown.