737-8 max plane goes down (2018) - new not Max crash Indonesia

[Keeper!]

https://www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/pilots-fall-asleep-mid-flight-150-on-board-batik-air-indonesia/

The job of a modern pilot must be incredibly boring flying the latest aircraft.

Apart from initial take off and landing there is little to do, often pilots turn on the autopilot within seconds of taking off, the level of boredom of long flights must be enormous.

 

[Nethermoor]

The Indonesians don't have a great record of safety. Whether that be how the pilots are utilised or maintenance.

 

[denislawsbackheel]

And another loses a panel

United Airlines flight 433 lands safely without panel in Oregon

No-one is injured after the 737-800 lands without an external panel, which went unnoticed in flight.

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[RadcliffeRick]

Is it really safe to be still building what is essentially a 60 year old plane? I know the planes are radically different today but the airframe is still of the original design. The assembly would appear to be of the "get them out of the door ASAP" culture.

 

[Alan Harper's Tash]

Is it really safe to be still building what is essentially a 60 year old plane? I know the planes are radically different today but the airframe is still of the original design. The assembly would appear to be of the "get them out of the door ASAP" culture.

It’s probably more cost cutting and using the cheapest stuff they can “safely” get away with. See Grenfell cladding for similar results.

 

[cpa]

The job of a modern pilot must be incredibly boring flying the latest aircraft.

Apart from initial take off and landing there is little to do, often pilots turn on the autopilot within seconds of taking off, the level of boredom of long flights must be enormous.

Once sat in the cockpit jumpseat on a 777 Manchester to Hong Kong flt. looong,tedious,boring and very uncomfortable and that was a one off ,thought of doing it weekly must be a mare although no doubt the money compensates .
Didnt help my brother and son were in business class having a great time .

 

[inbetween]

Is it really safe to be still building what is essentially a 60 year old plane? I know the planes are radically different today but the airframe is still of the original design. The assembly would appear to be of the "get them out of the door ASAP" culture.

It's very safe. Designing a new aircraft from scratch is extremely expensive and there is very little to gain from that investment unless it's a radical design like the A380 (which was actually a financial failure). Most newer aircraft are just improved older designs which have new engines and different materials etc.

The Boeing issues seem to come down to quality and they have rightly been criticised for that. However, Airbus aircraft sometimes have these issues too. You just won't hear about them because Boeing has a target painted on their back. Either way though you're more likely to be hit by a meteorite then be in a plane crash.

 

[Scottyboi]

It's very safe. Designing a new aircraft from scratch is extremely expensive and there is very little to gain from that investment unless it's a radical design like the A380 (which was actually a financial failure). Most newer aircraft are just improved older designs which have new engines and different materials etc.

The Boeing issues seem to come down to quality and they have rightly been criticised for that. However, Airbus aircraft sometimes have these issues too. You just won't hear about them because Boeing has a target painted on their back. Either way though you're more likely to be hit by a meteorite then be in a plane crash.

Behave, they have royally fucked up with this plane from day 1 all due to Airbus doing so well. The leadership pushing profit over safety and in the process have tarnished such a huge company. There is no target painted on their back to suggest otherwise makes you sound like a fanboy.

 

[remember arthur mann]

The job of a modern pilot must be incredibly boring flying the latest aircraft.

Apart from initial take off and landing there is little to do, often pilots turn on the autopilot within seconds of taking off, the level of boredom of long flights must be enormous.

 

[Sir peace frog]

The job of a modern pilot must be incredibly boring flying the latest aircraft.

Apart from initial take off and landing there is little to do, often pilots turn on the autopilot within seconds of taking off, the level of boredom of long flights must be enormous.

Calling @ChicagoBlue the thread