9/11

like other people have said, capitalist gain is suppressions gain

it's creeping everywhere like a dark cloud

i'm not really one for conspiracy theory's, i don't think it was an inside job, it was simply an attack on a country that flex's it's muscles in the wrong places

but i'm not of the opinion on whether they deserved it or not.
 
Damocles said:
typicalcity68 said:
Who told you that was the name of the new bomb's name? The media perhaps? The same media that time and time again quote Ahmadinadjad as saying he wanted Israel "wiped of the the map" when no such phrase exists in Persian?

You kind of have a point.

Whilst Ahmadinejad was saying that he wanted to force the current government to fall, it's still a horrificly stupid thing to say with the world's media in front of you. I seem to think that the actual quote was something to do with paper, and he was actually quoting that great bastion of peace, Khomeini, who was the guy who supported the students (who some say included Ahmadinejad) that took over the US Embassy, tortured the prisoners and kept them for a year.

is correct.
 
Damocles said:
Because you obviously have very little clue what Wikileaks actually released, or have a ridiculous notion of what will endanger troop's lifes.

Also, if you believe that somebody calling you on your bullshit is stalking, perhaps an internet forum isn't the best place to post it. Try a blog and disabling comments or something.
You was obviously given permission to post the link & ask for donations off here to fund the site so in that respect you didn't break the code of conduct so you have nothing to worry about.
The facility exists on this forum to foe people who you may find offensive but i'm assuming mods are immune from this,when one behaves like you have done perhaps it might be an idea to review this.
 
Soulboy said:
I love Damocles' posts.

Not only is he the only tactical genius on the board as every one else a "fucking idiot" when it comes to football, but he is also the resident genius on Terrorism and anyone who fails to see that is a retarded fool.

Anyone who has to revert to this sort of view about people who have alternative opinions are usually not convinced by their own arguments, such is their desire to attack the person rather than the argument...

Just a thought.

If you cannot back up your argument with facts and your whole opinion is based upon something that you have made up, then yes, you are a fool.
If you try to make a point about terrorism whilst trying to paint it as good vs evil, then you're a fool.
If you try to take the actions of a few men and lambast whole nations or faiths for it, then yes, you're a fool.

You can take your own interpretation of the actual events, fine, but to talk about a subject without acknowledging them is just daft.

I apologise if I'm not in the mood to debate people's crap today, when they won't do even the smallest amount of research. I usually come up with long posts explaining step by step why I think that they are wrong, and what the actual facts are along with my interpretation of them is. I usually end up back to square one, so I've just decided today to cut out the middleman and directly question things that are quite obviously daft. As I say, apologies if it is too abrasive but I'm feeling lazy<br /><br />-- Sun Sep 12, 2010 4:43 pm --<br /><br />
bluemanc said:
Damocles said:
Because you obviously have very little clue what Wikileaks actually released, or have a ridiculous notion of what will endanger troop's lifes.

Also, if you believe that somebody calling you on your bullshit is stalking, perhaps an internet forum isn't the best place to post it. Try a blog and disabling comments or something.
You was obviously given permission to post the link & ask for donations off here to fund the site so in that respect you didn't break the code of conduct so you have nothing to worry about.
The facility exists on this forum to foe people who you may find offensive but i'm assuming mods are immune from this,when one behaves like you have done perhaps it might be an idea to review this.

I see your history is also lacking. Good job.

That is unless you think me posting a link to the Guardian and then posting:

"I fucking LOVE Wikileaks. Go and donate them some money if you can spare it."

Is actually a large, concerted fund raising effort by myself that somehow needed permission and not just enthusiasm for a particular agency that believes that the people who pay to manage our money should be responsible to us.
 
Damocles said:
Soulboy said:
I love Damocles' posts.

Not only is he the only tactical genius on the board as every one else a "fucking idiot" when it comes to football, but he is also the resident genius on Terrorism and anyone who fails to see that is a retarded fool.

Anyone who has to revert to this sort of view about people who have alternative opinions are usually not convinced by their own arguments, such is their desire to attack the person rather than the argument...

Just a thought.

If you cannot back up your argument with facts and your whole opinion is based upon something that you have made up, then yes, you are a fool.
If you try to make a point about terrorism whilst trying to paint it as good vs evil, then you're a fool.
If you try to take the actions of a few men and lambast whole nations or faiths for it, then yes, you're a fool.

You can take your own interpretation of the actual events, fine, but to talk about a subject without acknowledging them is just daft.

I apologise if I'm not in the mood to debate people's crap today, when they won't do even the smallest amount of research. I usually come up with long posts explaining step by step why I think that they are wrong, and what the actual facts are along with my interpretation of them is. I usually end up back to square one, so I've just decided today to cut out the middleman and directly question things that are quite obviously daft. As I say, apologies if it is too abrasive but I'm feeling lazy

-- Sun Sep 12, 2010 4:43 pm --

bluemanc said:
You was obviously given permission to post the link & ask for donations off here to fund the site so in that respect you didn't break the code of conduct so you have nothing to worry about.
The facility exists on this forum to foe people who you may find offensive but i'm assuming mods are immune from this,when one behaves like you have done perhaps it might be an idea to review this.

I see your history is also lacking. Good job.

That is unless you think me posting a link to the Guardian and then posting:

"I fucking LOVE Wikileaks. Go and donate them some money if you can spare it."

Is actually a large, concerted fund raising effort by myself that somehow needed permission and not just enthusiasm for a particular agency that believes that the people who pay to manage our money should be responsible to us.

I actually like reading your stuff.

But recently you have turned yourself into a bit of a mouth - foamer with all this ranting where you're right and the rest of the world is wrong.

It doesn't look good. And to be brutally honest, it's all just your opinion.

I thought that the mods might have clamped down on your personal insults against certain posters, but seemingly, like me, you entertain them enough to be exempt from this.

Argue your point but stop taking someone's opposite view as being a personal sideswipe at you... that's rather childish to be honest.
 
typicalcity68 said:
bluemanc said:
The name of Irans new bomber "The Ambassador Of Death"gives the game away a tad about what Iran has planned for the future.
With Russian scientists involved in the Nuclear Power Plant construction i wouldn't be so cocky if i was them.

Who told you that was the name of the new bomb's name? The media perhaps? The same media that time and time again quote Ahmadinadjad as saying he wanted Israel "wiped of the the map" when no such phrase exists in Persian?
Speaking to a group of officials, Ahmadinejad said, "The jet, as well as being an ambassador of death for the enemies of humanity, has a main message of peace and friendship."
The goal of the aircraft is to "keep the enemy paralyzed in its bases," he said, adding that the jet is for deterrence and defensive purposes.
It's a plane used as a bomb i assume,a kind of we want peace & friendship but only after it's delivered it's other message which by the looks of things is death.
 
Soulboy said:
I actually like reading your stuff.

But recently you have turned yourself into a bit of a mouth - foamer with all this ranting where you're right and the rest of the world is wrong.

It doesn't look good. And to be brutally honest, it's all just your opinion.

I thought that the mods might have clamped down on your personal insults against certain posters, but seemingly, like me, you entertain them enough to be exempt from this.

Argue your point but stop taking someone's opposite view as being a personal sideswipe at you... that's rather childish to be honest.

I don't take anybody having an alternative view as a personal sideswipe. I like arguing different points of view as long as they are based upon facts. As I said before, making stuff up and not even bothering to have the decency to look things up before entering a debate about it annoys me profusely.

If somebody wants to make a point that they can actually back up; one that is based upon their interpretation of events, then I have no problem. I'm just sick to death of arguing with people who haven't thought about an issue or use some absurd notion of nationalism/religion/politics/etc to justify something that a child can poke holes in.

I've now come to the only natural conclusion that if people can post bullshit, we should be able to call it bullshit without 1000 word posts that politely explain exactly why it is. Why put in more effort than those who make the argument?
 
Dam your a clever guy, I have tried looking it up but why did the Blackbox's not survive? I thought these were unbreakable? Was it the heat or were they just simply lost?
 
TheIceman said:
Dam your a clever guy, I have tried looking it up but why did the Blackbox's not survive? I thought these were unbreakable? Was it the heat or were they just simply lost?

I have no idea. The FBI say that "as far as they know" no black boxes were ever recovered as they were destroyed on impact, though two NYC firefighters claim they were found.

Both are just as plausible as each other to be honest. Nobody is entirely sure or not whether they could have survived smashing into two buildings with that type of energy behind them.
 

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