Adam Johnson

[Heart.net]

Its entirely up to him really, would he rather be a squad play at a club going places and not bother trying to improve his game top get into the first team or would he rather go to a club outside the top 5 where he is guaranteed first team?

Personally I think this is what's wrong with most young English players they just have no fight in them, at least Hart, Lescott and Richards upped their game and fought for first team football...

he does have fight though. He just wants first team action, which he will get at other clubs. how anyone can have a go at a player for wanting to play more is beyond me

Does he? I can't see it. His constant petulant reactions though are a highlight feature and it annoys me to great deal that he be a lot better than what he is if only he raised his fitness level to degree where he can have an impact most of the game & not just 20 minutes of it.

 

[SuperKevinHorlock]

Personally I feel nothing but frustration with AJ technically he is a very gifted footballer.
Sadly I was brought up watching wingers attacking full backs and I genuinely feel AJ has that in his locker but to often goes backward or plays the safe pass.

The time has passed now where I would be genuinely gutted if he left. Hopefully he turns it around at city and makes me eat my words.

 

[Anonymous]

Its entirely up to him really, would he rather be a squad play at a club going places and not bother trying to improve his game top get into the first team or would he rather go to a club outside the top 5 where he is guaranteed first team?

Personally I think this is what's wrong with most young English players they just have no fight in them, at least Hart, Lescott and Richards upped their game and fought for first team football...

he does have fight though. He just wants first team action, which he will get at other clubs. how anyone can have a go at a player for wanting to play more is beyond me

Does he? I can't see it. His constant petulant reactions though are a highlight feature and it annoys me to great deal that he be a lot better than what he is if only he raised his fitness level to degree where he can have an impact most of the game & not just 20 minutes of it.

give me some examples of petulant reactions ?<br /><br />-- Fri Aug 17, 2012 12:41 pm --<br /><br />

He needs to ask himself this question.

Why did James Milner play on the right hand side in the bigger games. eg at away at OT

because milner is more defensively minded, which subdued the threat of the united fullbacks and wingers, whilst providing cover for our right back. Also milner was our in form player then.

 

[ForzaMancini]

Personally I feel nothing but frustration with AJ technically he is a very gifted footballer.
Sadly I was brought up watching wingers attacking full backs and I genuinely feel AJ has that in his locker but to often goes backward or plays the safe pass.

The time has passed now where I would be genuinely gutted if he left. Hopefully he turns it around at city and makes me eat my words.

Although not a big fan of AJ myself, doing that is probably following orders from Mancini

 

[Heart.net]

he does have fight though. He just wants first team action, which he will get at other clubs. how anyone can have a go at a player for wanting to play more is beyond me

Does he? I can't see it. His constant petulant reactions though are a highlight feature and it annoys me to great deal that he be a lot better than what he is if only he raised his fitness level to degree where he can have an impact most of the game & not just 20 minutes of it.

give me some examples of petulant reactions ?

-- Fri Aug 17, 2012 12:41 pm --

He needs to ask himself this question.

Why did James Milner play on the right hand side in the bigger games. eg at away at OT

because milner is more defensively minded, which subdued the threat of the united fullbacks and wingers, whilst providing cover for our right back. Also milner was our in form player then.

<a class="postlink" href="http://www.clubcall.com/manchester-city/johnson-spat-fears-dismissed-1314504.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.clubcall.com/manchester-city ... 14504.html</a>

<a class="postlink" href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2011/oct/30/roberto-mancini-manchester-city-adam-johnson" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2011 ... am-johnson</a>

<a class="postlink" href="http://www.sport360.com/article/manchester-city-boss-hits-back-adam-johnson-criticism" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.sport360.com/article/manches ... -criticism</a>

I'm sure there are more instances, but how many times has mancini had to question AJ?

 

[bluedan]

Hearing that Milner is more defensive minded than AJ

In actual fact the reason why he appears to be like this is due to the fact he works much harder and is alot fitter. Interesting stats below from last season


Minutes Played
Milner 1579
AJ 1137

Assists
Milner 5
AJ 2

Crosses
Milner 81
AJ 59

Minutes per tackle
Milner 39
AJ 87


VIA OPTA STATS
<a class="postlink" href="http://www.eplindex.com/14760/aaron-lennon-england-squad-opta-stats.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.eplindex.com/14760/aaron-len ... stats.html</a>

 

[charliebigspuds]

some ITK (haha) on Twitter has posted this

Adam Johnsen has handed in transfer request as i said a month ago and im told West Ham have already made a 12m offer for him.

It'd be believable if he could spell his name

 

[Davs 19]

Hearing that Milner is more defensive minded than AJ

In actual fact the reason why he appears to be like this is due to the fact he works much harder and is alot fitter. Interesting stats below from last season


Minutes Played
Milner 1579
AJ 1137

Assists
Milner 5
AJ 2

Crosses
Milner 81
AJ 59

Minutes per tackle
Milner 39
AJ 87


VIA OPTA STATS
<a class="postlink" href="http://www.eplindex.com/14760/aaron-lennon-england-squad-opta-stats.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.eplindex.com/14760/aaron-len ... stats.html</a>

I'm not AJs biggest fan but there seems to be something missing here..............goals ?

 

[Uno's_My name]

Really hope we dont let AJ go and sign Sinclair, thats a downgrade and a half in my book, i think AJ's got great ability, far more about him than ruddy Sinclar!

 

[stan bowles]

I agree that letting AJ go and bringing in Sinclair seems like a downgrade. However, what is clear is that Mancini doesn't rate AJ and that being so it seems likely that he will be sold. Johnson reminds of Stephen Ireland in some ways - talented but doesn't impose his ability on the game enough. Although capable of some real quality moments he is often on the periphery of the game. I am not sure Sinclair has the same quality at all and it could be a mistake letting AJ go.

 

[johnny crossan]

Red dippers signing Oussama Assaidi effectively puts an end to any player exchange for Agger and I can't see the blue variety affording him - so come on AJ, shut up and play.

 

[Uno's_My name]

Dont get it with Mancini and AJ, there seems to be something not right there, AJ has all the qualities theres no reason why he shouldn't succeed here and theres no way we should be ditching him for Scott Sinclair whos basically a more limited version.

 

[dctid]

Dont get it with Mancini and AJ, there seems to be something not right there, AJ has all the qualities theres no reason why he shouldn't succeed here and theres no way we should be ditching him for Scott Sinclair whos basically a more limited version.

Mancini dont seem like an easy guy to get along with and its his way or the highway and i sont think that AJ helps himself - clash of personalities i think but it is proabably easier to say whom Mancini has not fallen out with rather than who he has fallen out with

However his management style has worked so players need to comply of get the fook out of disdge

 

[Rammyblues]

AJ will either do as he is told or he will be out the door, I would say he is in the hallway at the moment.

 

[BlueMooner87]

Dont get it with Mancini and AJ, there seems to be something not right there, AJ has all the qualities theres no reason why he shouldn't succeed here and theres no way we should be ditching him for Scott Sinclair whos basically a more limited version.

I think it is very much the point that in the majority of games AJ plays its like we have 10 players, yes he pops up with a few goals but I think he is over-rated, he often makes poor decisions and seems to think he has a devine right to be played even though he hasn't earnt it.

 

[Uno's_My name]

Dont get it with Mancini and AJ, there seems to be something not right there, AJ has all the qualities theres no reason why he shouldn't succeed here and theres no way we should be ditching him for Scott Sinclair whos basically a more limited version.

Mancini dont seem like an easy guy to get along with and its his way or the highway and i sont think that AJ helps himself - clash of personalities i think but it is proabably easier to say whom Mancini has not fallen out with rather than who he has fallen out with

However his management style has worked so players need to comply of get the fook out of disdge

Yeah i think AJ is one of those guys who likes the arm round the shoulder a guy who needs someone in his ear telling him how brillant he is, obviously thats not bobs way but thats all part of man management, just think its such a waste of such a great talent which is what ive always believed AJ is, it dosnt help our game plan isnt built around wing play so first team starts are going to be limited but even so theres potential there.

Ive kind of resigned myself to him leaving though but i dont see the point of signing Sinclair at all.<br /><br />-- Fri Aug 17, 2012 10:18 pm --<br /><br />

Dont get it with Mancini and AJ, there seems to be something not right there, AJ has all the qualities theres no reason why he shouldn't succeed here and theres no way we should be ditching him for Scott Sinclair whos basically a more limited version.

I think it is very much the point that in the majority of games AJ plays its like we have 10 players, yes he pops up with a few goals but I think he is over-rated, he often makes poor decisions and seems to think he has a devine right to be played even though he hasn't earnt it.

But decision making comes with maturity and game time, if hes only getting sporadic opportunities to play hes going to try the more elaborate things to get noticed and impress in the small amount of match time hes being given and sometimes it wont come off and he will be labelled selfish etc for doing it.

I think with a run of games youd see a really top player in Johnson, i guess though given the new system we seem to be leaning towards that pushes him even further away from first team action as i very much doubt hed be disciplined enough to play as a wing back.

Still dont see where Sinclair fits in though if hes seen as any sort of replacement.

 

[zeven]

Dont get it with Mancini and AJ, there seems to be something not right there, AJ has all the qualities theres no reason why he shouldn't succeed here and theres no way we should be ditching him for Scott Sinclair whos basically a more limited version.

Mancini dont seem like an easy guy to get along with and its his way or the highway and i sont think that AJ helps himself - clash of personalities i think but it is proabably easier to say whom Mancini has not fallen out with rather than who he has fallen out with

However his management style has worked so players need to comply of get the fook out of disdge

Yeah i think AJ is one of those guys who likes the arm round the shoulder a guy who needs someone in his ear telling him how brillant he is, obviously thats not bobs way but thats all part of man management, just think its such a waste of such a great talent which is what ive always believed AJ is, it dosnt help our game plan isnt built around wing play so first team starts are going to be limited but even so theres potential there.

Ive kind of resigned myself to him leaving though but i dont see the point of signing Sinclair at all.

Cant agree with this. AJ plays for manchester city football club in 2012, that proves hes a good footballer. There should be no need for an arm around th shoulder and praise.

Either he accepts the challenges to play for us or he can teake the easy route and play for west ham.

We cant have a manager who is freinds with players, it will make it difficult to put them on the bench when needed.
Aj needs to understand that playing for manchester city is an honor and to be able to continue play for manchester city you need to improve your game all the time. If he were smart he should train extra on his defensive play use the performance team to guide him in the areas hes not top notch in.

If Aj cant handle the responsibility and press that comes with it to play for city then he need to go.

 

[Rammy Blue]

AJ will either do as he is told or he will be out the door, I would say he is in the hallway at the moment.

Saw barryo saying he's off on loan to Sunderland this morning.

 

[Wretched Vengeance]

He has neither the mental nor physical attributes required to succeed with us.

 

[ABU inc GDR]

Dont get it with Mancini and AJ, there seems to be something not right there, AJ has all the qualities theres no reason why he shouldn't succeed here and theres no way we should be ditching him for Scott Sinclair whos basically a more limited version.

Mancini dont seem like an easy guy to get along with and its his way or the highway and i sont think that AJ helps himself - clash of personalities i think but it is proabably easier to say whom Mancini has not fallen out with rather than who he has fallen out with

However his management style has worked so players need to comply of get the fook out of disdge

Yeah i think AJ is one of those guys who likes the arm round the shoulder a guy who needs someone in his ear telling him how brillant he is, obviously thats not bobs way but thats all part of man management, just think its such a waste of such a great talent which is what ive always believed AJ is, it dosnt help our game plan isnt built around wing play so first team starts are going to be limited but even so theres potential there.

Ive kind of resigned myself to him leaving though but i dont see the point of signing Sinclair at all.

-- Fri Aug 17, 2012 10:18 pm --

Dont get it with Mancini and AJ, there seems to be something not right there, AJ has all the qualities theres no reason why he shouldn't succeed here and theres no way we should be ditching him for Scott Sinclair whos basically a more limited version.

I think it is very much the point that in the majority of games AJ plays its like we have 10 players, yes he pops up with a few goals but I think he is over-rated, he often makes poor decisions and seems to think he has a devine right to be played even though he hasn't earnt it.

But decision making comes with maturity and game time, if hes only getting sporadic opportunities to play hes going to try the more elaborate things to get noticed and impress in the small amount of match time hes being given and sometimes it wont come off and he will be labelled selfish etc for doing it.

I think with a run of games youd see a really top player in Johnson, i guess though given the new system we seem to be leaning towards that pushes him even further away from first team action as i very much doubt hed be disciplined enough to play as a wing back.Still dont see where Sinclair fits in though if hes seen as any sort of replacement.

You've answered your own question, AJ isn't disciplined enough, he goes out on the lash too much and puts 50% effort in when all around are busting a gut!