Adebayor back at Carrington yesterday.

Pigeonho said:
Lol at people slating Adebayor. Like as if none of you wouldn't do the same thing in his shoes. Take Manchester City out of it for a minute and put your self in those shoes. You are employed by company, (which is what he is, employed by a company), and are paid £175k a week. You aren't at the top table of that company but life is sweet all the same. Another company offers you far less but a place at their top table, where you will have to work hard. Do you know what I would do, and I suspect many others too? I'd fuck the offer to work harder for less and sit and earn my £175k at the slightly lesser table with my employers daft enough to pay me those big bucks in the first place. It's common sense.

I think what is going on here for some is the big bad wolf is taking the piss out of Man City, (we can't have that now can we), and therefore that wolf is a ****. Like I say though, take Manchester City out of it and look at it from Adebayor's point of view. Employer paying an employee shit loads of money to do not alot at all.

I wish I was in his shoes.

To be honest I dont think you can compare the situation of a premiership footballer to joe bloggs on the street struggling to pay current bills let alone be financially secure for the future.

In fairness most footballers dont act like Ade, they seek transfers to improve the likelihood of playing time rather than staying to protect their wages. We have one at City, Aleks Kolarov, who is considering a transfer as he wants to play regularly rather than follow the mentality of Ade, even though he is unlikely to match the wages he gets at City.

But there strikes a distance between the types of players and personalities we are now signing in comparison to Hughes players. We paid ridiculously over the top for players who were not good enough or didnt have the desire to take us where we want to go.

Ade is not the only one. You hear more about Wayne Bridge and the girl from the fridays rather than his football career. Jo was a similar player and Craig "I need my wages to support my charity" Bellamy also forced Citys hand. If we added Santa Cruz to the mix we have players bought for a combined value of around 85 million, as little as three years ago, with wages of over 500k a week and we have been offered no more than around 10 million in return. Also in a similar vain, another Hughes target, David Bentley would be sat out of form and on the payroll if Hughes had got his man.

Hughes went, in the majority of cases, for safe players, rather than back his judgement purchasing players from abroad or young hungry players.
We spent close on 34 million for Bellamy and Santa Cruz. Santa Cruz hadnt played competitively for months (we even tried to sign him the Jan transfer window before when he was still injured) and Bellamy, a player who couldnt fully train and stuggled with two games a week. Players with no sell on value and a drain on the club.

Legally Ade is doing nothing wrong, but I think a lot less of him as a professional footballer.I am also grateful we have a proper manager now in place.
 
Pigeonho said:
Lol at people slating Adebayor. Like as if none of you wouldn't do the same thing in his shoes. Take Manchester City out of it for a minute and put your self in those shoes. You are employed by company, (which is what he is, employed by a company), and are paid £175k a week. You aren't at the top table of that company but life is sweet all the same. Another company offers you far less but a place at their top table, where you will have to work hard. Do you know what I would do, and I suspect many others too? I'd fuck the offer to work harder for less and sit and earn my £175k at the slightly lesser table with my employers daft enough to pay me those big bucks in the first place. It's common sense.

I think what is going on here for some is the big bad wolf is taking the piss out of Man City, (we can't have that now can we), and therefore that wolf is a ****. Like I say though, take Manchester City out of it and look at it from Adebayor's point of view. Employer paying an employee shit loads of money to do not alot at all.

I wish I was in his shoes.

Yes exactly, but he has been paid £175k a week for the past 3/4 years...he's rich as fuck, and doesn't need the money as much as some of us, I mean he wouldn't have to live on the street if he moved clubs. He would still be earning ludacris amounts of money each week. Even if we were earning that lower amount we would be as happy as fuck
 
franksinatra said:
Pigeonho said:
Lol at people slating Adebayor. Like as if none of you wouldn't do the same thing in his shoes. Take Manchester City out of it for a minute and put your self in those shoes. You are employed by company, (which is what he is, employed by a company), and are paid £175k a week. You aren't at the top table of that company but life is sweet all the same. Another company offers you far less but a place at their top table, where you will have to work hard. Do you know what I would do, and I suspect many others too? I'd fuck the offer to work harder for less and sit and earn my £175k at the slightly lesser table with my employers daft enough to pay me those big bucks in the first place. It's common sense.

I think what is going on here for some is the big bad wolf is taking the piss out of Man City, (we can't have that now can we), and therefore that wolf is a ****. Like I say though, take Manchester City out of it and look at it from Adebayor's point of view. Employer paying an employee shit loads of money to do not alot at all.

I wish I was in his shoes.

To be honest I dont think you can compare the situation of a premiership footballer to joe bloggs on the street struggling to pay current bills let alone be financially secure for the future.

In fairness most footballers dont act like Ade, they seek transfers to improve the likelihood of playing time rather than staying to protect their wages. We have one at City, Aleks Kolarov, who is considering a transfer as he wants to play regularly rather than follow the mentality of Ade, even though he is unlikely to match the wages he gets at City.

But there strikes a distance between the types of players and personalities we are now signing in comparison to Hughes players. We paid ridiculously over the top for players who were not good enough or didnt have the desire to take us where we want to go.

Ade is not the only one. You hear more about Wayne Bridge and the girl from the fridays rather than his football career. Jo was a similar player and Craig "I need my wages to support my charity" Bellamy also forced Citys hand. If we added Santa Cruz to the mix we have players bought for a combined value of around 85 million, as little as three years ago, with wages of over 500k a week and we have been offered no more than around 10 million in return. Also in a similar vain, another Hughes target, David Bentley would be sat out of form and on the payroll if Hughes had got his man.

Hughes went, in the majority of cases, for safe players, rather than back his judgement purchasing players from abroad or young hungry players.
We spent close on 34 million for Bellamy and Santa Cruz. Santa Cruz hadnt played competitively for months (we even tried to sign him the Jan transfer window before when he was still injured) and Bellamy, a player who couldnt fully train and stuggled with two games a week. Players with no sell on value and a drain on the club.

Legally Ade is doing nothing wrong, but I think a lot less of him as a professional footballer.I am also grateful we have a proper manager now in place.
But that's it though see, from their eyes they are just joe bloggs in the street, they're just doing their job, (or not as is the case). I'm stripping it all back to the basics, and they are that Ade, (or whoever), is employed by and employer paying him silly money to do not alot. Another employer is willing to pay far less for him to do more. Now whether that job is playing football or cleaning windows, I would expect 10 times out of 10 that the person in question takes more for doing less.<br /><br />-- Thu Jul 19, 2012 9:35 pm --<br /><br />
InMyLifetime-BaconChops said:
Pigeonho said:
Lol at people slating Adebayor. Like as if none of you wouldn't do the same thing in his shoes. Take Manchester City out of it for a minute and put your self in those shoes. You are employed by company, (which is what he is, employed by a company), and are paid £175k a week. You aren't at the top table of that company but life is sweet all the same. Another company offers you far less but a place at their top table, where you will have to work hard. Do you know what I would do, and I suspect many others too? I'd fuck the offer to work harder for less and sit and earn my £175k at the slightly lesser table with my employers daft enough to pay me those big bucks in the first place. It's common sense.

I think what is going on here for some is the big bad wolf is taking the piss out of Man City, (we can't have that now can we), and therefore that wolf is a ****. Like I say though, take Manchester City out of it and look at it from Adebayor's point of view. Employer paying an employee shit loads of money to do not alot at all.

I wish I was in his shoes.

Yes exactly, but he has been paid £175k a week for the past 3/4 years...he's rich as fuck, and doesn't need the money as much as some of us, I mean he wouldn't have to live on the street if he moved clubs. He would still be earning ludacris amounts of money each week. Even if we were earning that lower amount we would be as happy as fuck
That's not the point though, and that point could be raised to players like Aguero who would have earned shit loads anyway, and don't really need to earn quadruple what they were on anyway. We offer it them though, as do others, and so they take it. Like I said earlier too, maybe sometimes for a player who comes from poverty in their childhood, enough can never be enough. Not referring to Ade their in particular, he could have had a rich mans upbringing for all I know, just saying that behind every mans thinking, money is money and sometimes you can never get enough of it.
 
Pigeonho said:
franksinatra said:
Pigeonho said:
Lol at people slating Adebayor. Like as if none of you wouldn't do the same thing in his shoes. Take Manchester City out of it for a minute and put your self in those shoes. You are employed by company, (which is what he is, employed by a company), and are paid £175k a week. You aren't at the top table of that company but life is sweet all the same. Another company offers you far less but a place at their top table, where you will have to work hard. Do you know what I would do, and I suspect many others too? I'd fuck the offer to work harder for less and sit and earn my £175k at the slightly lesser table with my employers daft enough to pay me those big bucks in the first place. It's common sense.

I think what is going on here for some is the big bad wolf is taking the piss out of Man City, (we can't have that now can we), and therefore that wolf is a ****. Like I say though, take Manchester City out of it and look at it from Adebayor's point of view. Employer paying an employee shit loads of money to do not alot at all.

I wish I was in his shoes.

To be honest I dont think you can compare the situation of a premiership footballer to joe bloggs on the street struggling to pay current bills let alone be financially secure for the future.

In fairness most footballers dont act like Ade, they seek transfers to improve the likelihood of playing time rather than staying to protect their wages. We have one at City, Aleks Kolarov, who is considering a transfer as he wants to play regularly rather than follow the mentality of Ade, even though he is unlikely to match the wages he gets at City.

But there strikes a distance between the types of players and personalities we are now signing in comparison to Hughes players. We paid ridiculously over the top for players who were not good enough or didnt have the desire to take us where we want to go.

Ade is not the only one. You hear more about Wayne Bridge and the girl from the fridays rather than his football career. Jo was a similar player and Craig "I need my wages to support my charity" Bellamy also forced Citys hand. If we added Santa Cruz to the mix we have players bought for a combined value of around 85 million, as little as three years ago, with wages of over 500k a week and we have been offered no more than around 10 million in return. Also in a similar vain, another Hughes target, David Bentley would be sat out of form and on the payroll if Hughes had got his man.

Hughes went, in the majority of cases, for safe players, rather than back his judgement purchasing players from abroad or young hungry players.
We spent close on 34 million for Bellamy and Santa Cruz. Santa Cruz hadnt played competitively for months (we even tried to sign him the Jan transfer window before when he was still injured) and Bellamy, a player who couldnt fully train and stuggled with two games a week. Players with no sell on value and a drain on the club.

Legally Ade is doing nothing wrong, but I think a lot less of him as a professional footballer.I am also grateful we have a proper manager now in place.
But that's it though see, from their eyes they are just joe bloggs in the street, they're just doing their job, (or not as is the case). I'm stripping it all back to the basics, and they are that Ade, (or whoever), is employed by and employer paying him silly money to do not alot. Another employer is willing to pay far less for him to do more. Now whether that job is playing football or cleaning windows, I would expect 10 times out of 10 that the person in question takes more for doing less.


Again it depends on the mentality of the player. The country is littered with disgruntled players, who want to play more, criticise the manager when they are subbed. Using your analogy they should be happy sitting on the bench or playing for the reserves as long as they are receiving their wages.

We picked up a bad lot due to our choice of management. I wonder if we dropped, and made it clear they had no future, a David Silva, Kun Aguero, Yaya Toure they would be happy not to play and collect their wages
 
franksinatra said:
Pigeonho said:
franksinatra said:
To be honest I dont think you can compare the situation of a premiership footballer to joe bloggs on the street struggling to pay current bills let alone be financially secure for the future.

In fairness most footballers dont act like Ade, they seek transfers to improve the likelihood of playing time rather than staying to protect their wages. We have one at City, Aleks Kolarov, who is considering a transfer as he wants to play regularly rather than follow the mentality of Ade, even though he is unlikely to match the wages he gets at City.

But there strikes a distance between the types of players and personalities we are now signing in comparison to Hughes players. We paid ridiculously over the top for players who were not good enough or didnt have the desire to take us where we want to go.

Ade is not the only one. You hear more about Wayne Bridge and the girl from the fridays rather than his football career. Jo was a similar player and Craig "I need my wages to support my charity" Bellamy also forced Citys hand. If we added Santa Cruz to the mix we have players bought for a combined value of around 85 million, as little as three years ago, with wages of over 500k a week and we have been offered no more than around 10 million in return. Also in a similar vain, another Hughes target, David Bentley would be sat out of form and on the payroll if Hughes had got his man.

Hughes went, in the majority of cases, for safe players, rather than back his judgement purchasing players from abroad or young hungry players.
We spent close on 34 million for Bellamy and Santa Cruz. Santa Cruz hadnt played competitively for months (we even tried to sign him the Jan transfer window before when he was still injured) and Bellamy, a player who couldnt fully train and stuggled with two games a week. Players with no sell on value and a drain on the club.

Legally Ade is doing nothing wrong, but I think a lot less of him as a professional footballer.I am also grateful we have a proper manager now in place.
But that's it though see, from their eyes they are just joe bloggs in the street, they're just doing their job, (or not as is the case). I'm stripping it all back to the basics, and they are that Ade, (or whoever), is employed by and employer paying him silly money to do not alot. Another employer is willing to pay far less for him to do more. Now whether that job is playing football or cleaning windows, I would expect 10 times out of 10 that the person in question takes more for doing less.


Again it depends on the mentality of the player. The country is littered with disgruntled players, who want to play more, criticise the manager when they are subbed. Using your analogy they should be happy sitting on the bench or playing for the reserves as long as they are receiving their wages.

We picked up a bad lot sue to our choice of management. I wonder if we dropped and made it clear they had no future a David Silva, Kun Aguero, Yaya Toure they would be happy not to play and collect their wages
That's exactly right, but for that reason a player shouldn't be called a **** for doing what most people would do anyway, regardless of the figures involved. If all this was happening over the road at OT, people would think it was great on here. The fact it's City it's 'happening' to shouldn't really be an issue, as all it is really is a man taking the money offered to him, it's not like its some issue he has with the club.
 
Pigeonho said:
franksinatra said:
Pigeonho said:
But that's it though see, from their eyes they are just joe bloggs in the street, they're just doing their job, (or not as is the case). I'm stripping it all back to the basics, and they are that Ade, (or whoever), is employed by and employer paying him silly money to do not alot. Another employer is willing to pay far less for him to do more. Now whether that job is playing football or cleaning windows, I would expect 10 times out of 10 that the person in question takes more for doing less.


Again it depends on the mentality of the player. The country is littered with disgruntled players, who want to play more, criticise the manager when they are subbed. Using your analogy they should be happy sitting on the bench or playing for the reserves as long as they are receiving their wages.

We picked up a bad lot sue to our choice of management. I wonder if we dropped and made it clear they had no future a David Silva, Kun Aguero, Yaya Toure they would be happy not to play and collect their wages
That's exactly right, but for that reason a player shouldn't be called a **** for doing what most people would do anyway, regardless of the figures involved. If all this was happening over the road at OT, people would think it was great on here. The fact it's City it's 'happening' to shouldn't really be an issue, as all it is really is a man taking the money offered to him, it's not like its some issue he has with the club.

Of course they would think it would be great if it happened over the road. We are football fans, but that isnt the best barometer to judge whether something reflects positively on our players. When Rooney held United to ransom, yes it was good for a laugh, but it spoke volumes about the individual.

If you wish to make the comparison with the man on the street. I bet the majority of people would cherish every moment of game time. Ade has millions in the bank, yet he would rather rot in the reserves or be sent away at the clubs whim rather than accept a wage most premiership footballers would dream about.

It speaks volumes about him.
 
If we are paying the bulk of their wages whilst out on loan, why are they out on loan? They seem to want to see contracts out, we will get no return on them, yet we are allowing them to keep match fit and in the shop window for a free transfer.

I would have them at Carrington, training on their own with a medicine ball and a bar with two barrels of shit on each end.
 
At least Ade can play football. I don't know what RSC is supposed to be.

If they won't go can't we get them doing some cleaning for their wages?
 
franksinatra said:
Pigeonho said:
franksinatra said:
Again it depends on the mentality of the player. The country is littered with disgruntled players, who want to play more, criticise the manager when they are subbed. Using your analogy they should be happy sitting on the bench or playing for the reserves as long as they are receiving their wages.

We picked up a bad lot sue to our choice of management. I wonder if we dropped and made it clear they had no future a David Silva, Kun Aguero, Yaya Toure they would be happy not to play and collect their wages
That's exactly right, but for that reason a player shouldn't be called a **** for doing what most people would do anyway, regardless of the figures involved. If all this was happening over the road at OT, people would think it was great on here. The fact it's City it's 'happening' to shouldn't really be an issue, as all it is really is a man taking the money offered to him, it's not like its some issue he has with the club.

Of course they would think it would be great if it happened over the road. We are football fans, but that isnt the best barometer to judge whether something reflects positively on our players. When Rooney held United to ransom, yes it was good for a laugh, but it spoke volumes about the individual.

If you wish to make the comparison with the man on the street. I bet the majority of people would cherish every moment of game time. Ade has millions in the bank, yet he would rather rot in the reserves or be sent away at the clubs whim rather than accept a wage most premiership footballers would dream about.

It speaks volumes about him.
It speaks volumes about people and money mate.
 

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