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Adebayor to Spurs
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Guys as I said nearly 2 weeks ago he will be on loan to Spurs
Looks like a 12 month loan with option to buy we still pick up a large amount of his wages not sure of final figure but would guess 50% to 60% to be paid by us. One of the problems of putting these players on such large wages.
Should be announced in next day or so
Looks like a 12 month loan with option to buy we still pick up a large amount of his wages not sure of final figure but would guess 50% to 60% to be paid by us. One of the problems of putting these players on such large wages.
Should be announced in next day or so
treasureox_MCFC
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alera said:I still think he will end up at Madrid. Most liklely on the cheap or possibly in some sort of player swap.
We shouldnt be selling him to anybody in the premiership anyway..
Real Madrid will get him on the cheap from us before the Window is up!!
TheNews said:Guys as I said nearly 2 weeks ago he will be on loan to Spurs
Looks like a 12 month loan with option to buy we still pick up a large amount of his wages not sure of final figure but would guess 50% to 60% to be paid by us. One of the problems of putting these players on such large wages.
Should be announced in next day or so
Why would we do that?
Why subsidise Spurs to the tune of £3m or £4m a season when we can sell him lock, stock and barrel to Real for £5m... with no wage adjustment?
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I seem to recall when you said that , that you also said he was having a medical at the time and that it would be announced in the next day
Soulboy said:TheNews said:Guys as I said nearly 2 weeks ago he will be on loan to Spurs
Looks like a 12 month loan with option to buy we still pick up a large amount of his wages not sure of final figure but would guess 50% to 60% to be paid by us. One of the problems of putting these players on such large wages.
Should be announced in next day or so
Why would we do that?
Why subsidise Spurs to the tune of £3m or £4m a season when we can sell him lock, stock and barrel to Real for £5m... wirg no wage adjustment?
RM don't want him though
Financial Fair Play is going to be hard enough even if our Ground sponsorship is approved by UEFA so as he wages cost us almost £9m a year is it better to offload as much as we can?
As I said this is the down side of buying all these players over the last few years and putting them on massive wages, sort of limits who we can sell to to offload those we don't want
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a) his wages dont count towards ffp so thats your first argument out of the window
b) we are still paying a large proportion of his wages so a saving of 3m a year wouldnt really benefit us to help a rival
c) You have no idea who RM want and dont want or who any top club around europe want and dont want
d) You seriously think our sponsorship deal wont be approved dont be silly
b) we are still paying a large proportion of his wages so a saving of 3m a year wouldnt really benefit us to help a rival
c) You have no idea who RM want and dont want or who any top club around europe want and dont want
d) You seriously think our sponsorship deal wont be approved dont be silly
mancboy123 said:I seem to recall when you said that , that you also said he was having a medical at the time and that it would be announced in the next day
Think if you actually check I said "Certainly no medical" check page 22 out
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RM don't want him though
Financial Fair Play is going to be hard enough even if our Ground sponsorship is approved by UEFA so as he wages cost us almost £9m a year is it better to offload as much as we can?
As I said this is the down side of buying all these players over the last few years and putting them on massive wages, sort of limits who we can sell to to offload those we don't want[/quote]
Is it not true that under FFPR his wages do not count. If that is so and Spurs pay us say £4M (£80K pw) for the loan can we then treat that as income ?
If we sell to Real for less than his value ofter amortisation, we incur a loss - which detracts from balancing the books.
Don't know for sure, this is what I have picked up.
Financial Fair Play is going to be hard enough even if our Ground sponsorship is approved by UEFA so as he wages cost us almost £9m a year is it better to offload as much as we can?
As I said this is the down side of buying all these players over the last few years and putting them on massive wages, sort of limits who we can sell to to offload those we don't want[/quote]
Is it not true that under FFPR his wages do not count. If that is so and Spurs pay us say £4M (£80K pw) for the loan can we then treat that as income ?
If we sell to Real for less than his value ofter amortisation, we incur a loss - which detracts from balancing the books.
Don't know for sure, this is what I have picked up.
TheNews said:Soulboy said:TheNews said:Guys as I said nearly 2 weeks ago he will be on loan to Spurs
Looks like a 12 month loan with option to buy we still pick up a large amount of his wages not sure of final figure but would guess 50% to 60% to be paid by us. One of the problems of putting these players on such large wages.
Should be announced in next day or so
Why would we do that?
Why subsidise Spurs to the tune of £3m or £4m a season when we can sell him lock, stock and barrel to Real for £5m... wirg no wage adjustment?
RM don't want him though
Financial Fair Play is going to be hard enough even if our Ground sponsorship is approved by UEFA so as he wages cost us almost £9m a year is it better to offload as much as we can?
As I said this is the down side of buying all these players over the last few years and putting them on massive wages, sort of limits who we can sell to to offload those we don't want
Thanks for totally ignoring my question... ;-))
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fair play then i apologise but my other arguments still stand up there is just no upside for us in this deal
mancboy123 said:fair play then i apologise but my other arguments still stand up there is just no upside for us in this deal
Apart from the fact that he could help spuds take points of our "main" rivals
To be honest I think the thought of them coming top 4 in place of say Arsenal or Liverpool a very good idea.
The top 3 will be well ahead of 4th IMO
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maybe but im no way arrogant enough to think we are well out of that scrap so no i dont want to strengthen them or help them out as they wouldnt do the same for us and also an option to buy do you think that he is gonna take a 50% pay cut in a year for the priviledge of playing for spurs
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I can't believe anyone who witnessed our games against Spurs last season would allow this deal to go ahead. Yes we took 4 points, but they were totally toothless in the final third and Ade would be perfect for them. If there is any truth to this at all I hope Bobby rewatches the game at the COMS and see's how much they dominated possession and puts a stop to any talk of this nonsense. At WHL Hart had a stormer and if they'd had a better striker they'd have won. Why give them a player than could finish teams off and even subsidise it? It makes no sense. This would be the worst deal we could possibly make. In fact it's too stupid to be believable, so I don't know what I'm getting wound up about.
mancboy123 said:maybe but im no way arrogant enough to think we are well out of that scrap so no i dont want to strengthen them or help them out as they wouldnt do the same for us and also an option to buy do you think that he is gonna take a 50% pay cut in a year for the priviledge of playing for spurs
He may not take a 50% cut but spuds are starting to offload some of their deadwood big earners like Keane and they have others on offer I would expect Crouch to be next out when they get him on loan.
He will only have 1 years left after this loan move so maybe if spuds could come up with a 4 year deal at say £120k he would except it
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At the end of the day it's conceivable we could be left with Ade and paying him the full whack for a few months. So if Spurs is the only option on the table then the club have to take it if only to save on some wages as we do have FFPR to consider. We can only hope he does the biz against the teams that matter - ManUre, Chelski, the Arse and the Dippers. If he does then all well and good.....as long as we do our part too!
I suppose we have to trust the club to get the best deal but, for me, I would rather we swapped Adebayor for a Real player such as Diarra or Gago or Albiol.
I really don't trust Spurs to finalise the deal at the end of the season, and we'll be pondering all this again next season.<br /><br />-- Tue Aug 16, 2011 4:48 pm --<br /><br />
Are you seriously pretending to be a City fan?
I really don't trust Spurs to finalise the deal at the end of the season, and we'll be pondering all this again next season.<br /><br />-- Tue Aug 16, 2011 4:48 pm --<br /><br />
TheNews said:mancboy123 said:fair play then i apologise but my other arguments still stand up there is just no upside for us in this deal
Apart from the fact that he could help spuds take points of our "main" rivals
To be honest I think the thought of them coming top 4 in place of say Arsenal or Liverpool a very good idea.
The top 3 will be well ahead of 4th IMO
Are you seriously pretending to be a City fan?
Not the best thing to happen but they pay half of his wages and they pay 2-3 m for loan lee. That is enough to pay his another half of wages until June. After that I hope they buy him.
so we dont make any profit from him until June but if he plays good and scores goals he will be more valuable than he is now.
Of course there is a chance spurs will be much better with him, also against MU, Chelsea, Arsenal, Pool what is not bad to us.
It will be megaLOL if he scores against Arsenal followed with his great run.:D
It's not the most optinal transfer but much better than if he would stay and eat his whole wages and play for reserves.
so we dont make any profit from him until June but if he plays good and scores goals he will be more valuable than he is now.
Of course there is a chance spurs will be much better with him, also against MU, Chelsea, Arsenal, Pool what is not bad to us.
It will be megaLOL if he scores against Arsenal followed with his great run.:D
It's not the most optinal transfer but much better than if he would stay and eat his whole wages and play for reserves.
Spurs have been looking for a class striker all sumer.....getting a player like Adebayor on loan is such a great business for them. by far the cheapest option they could have and no risk involved at all as he knows the league inside out
We wont loan him to spurs I cant see any chance of that happening.
We might have swapped him for a player we wanted but doing any business with clubs like spurs is always too difficult, they are always trying to take the piss.
There are lots of clubs that want Adebayor, both in the prem and abroad. Few would pay all his wages.
If we are going to loan him out and sub his wages we are hardly going to do it in our own league to a side that could compete with us. Surely people can see that would make no sense at all. Over half the clubs in the league would take him on loan with discounted wages.
If we pay half his wages thats a £4 million saving a year to us, the benefit is marginal.
By far the most likely outcome is he will go out on loan to a club in europe. Real are still interested despite what people might think they might not want a permanent deal or to pay all his wages. If not another club in spain or possibly Italy.
Just think about it many top clubs would love him on loan with part of his wages paid so why would we do SPurs the favour ? The answer is we wont unless there was something in it for us and a £2 or £3 million saving after they have paid a loan fee. There is just nothing in it for us to make it worthwhile.
We might have swapped him for a player we wanted but doing any business with clubs like spurs is always too difficult, they are always trying to take the piss.
There are lots of clubs that want Adebayor, both in the prem and abroad. Few would pay all his wages.
If we are going to loan him out and sub his wages we are hardly going to do it in our own league to a side that could compete with us. Surely people can see that would make no sense at all. Over half the clubs in the league would take him on loan with discounted wages.
If we pay half his wages thats a £4 million saving a year to us, the benefit is marginal.
By far the most likely outcome is he will go out on loan to a club in europe. Real are still interested despite what people might think they might not want a permanent deal or to pay all his wages. If not another club in spain or possibly Italy.
Just think about it many top clubs would love him on loan with part of his wages paid so why would we do SPurs the favour ? The answer is we wont unless there was something in it for us and a £2 or £3 million saving after they have paid a loan fee. There is just nothing in it for us to make it worthwhile.