Ajax fans being obnoxious

[gooner6729]

Surely you meant to say their crude racist caricature of a sheikh?
Perhaps their supposedly large Jewish following partly explains their apparent attitude towards the Arab people.

they don't have a large Jewish following. They come from a city which has an old Jewish community. Therefore provincial clubs have always tagged them as ''Jews''. In the 70s/80s their firms adopted the insult as a badge of honour. A bit like Spurs in fact.

As I said in my earlier post they have no discernible attitude towards Arab people to distinguish themselves from any other Dutch people. The Dutch as a race are more outspoken about immigration than the British. They vote for parties that are anti-Islamic and anti-immigration. Their biggest political party represents those sentiments. You might find that odd in a country that is probably more advanced and better educated than ours, but it has nothing to do with Ajax.

Feyenoord would be a better shout on that front with the massive support their fans have given to far right anti-Islamic politicians.

Even there the Islamophobia is motivated by issues like immigration,mosques,veils,honour killings,crime,terrorism and a perceived threat to the Dutch way of life. It was there long before Man City became an Arab project, so your logic is ludicrous. It has nothing to do with football.

Would you be offended if the sheikh caricature was used to ridicule the allocation of the World Cup to Qatar? The answer is no, because you, like every other football fan on earth believes its a joke that FIFA sold the World Cup to a host like that.

 

[davymcfc]

Much prefer feyenoord. Better fans.

Did they not murder an Ajax fan not that long ago

Yes. All of them.

 

[Anonymous]

Much prefer feyenoord. Better fans.

Did they not murder an Ajax fan not that long ago

Well fuck me, what were you saying about generalisations???

 

[dom]

I'd say that flag of the sheikh looks more like dick dasterdly from wacky races,are they all penelope fans then?
Heylp heylp we're not winning trophies anymore,what will we do?
Great history have ajax but we can't all live in the past,they sound like those mary ellens from the emirates!!

Actually looking and sounding more and more like red dippers..

weeeev godeeestryeeeeeee...!!!

As for this star of david nonsense... let's hope we never slide down those sectarian tubes...

 

[BlueHalli]

They're just one if those clubs that used to be great but is now average at best,yet the fans can't seem to adjust . It's funny,really. I wonder what there attitude would be If some billionaire was stupid enough to buy them. not that it would ever happen as the Dutch league Is wank and no fooker wants to play in it.

yeah, a wank league that has produced more quality players than ours ever will, even if we continue this thread for another 100 years. I suspect neither your or my club would get a single mention if the combined top alltime youth products of Man City,Arsenal and Ajax were listed.

They as a club have arguably contributed more to football than any other in the world.

Whether or not a few people in Manchester don't like their caricature of a sheikh does nothing to alter that fact.

Produce some good players that fook off elsewhere because the league is a bit shit.

 

[gooner6729]

Much prefer feyenoord. Better fans.

Did they not murder an Ajax fan not that long ago

Yes. All of them.

The casualty was a Feyenoord fan who died after a pre-arranged ''off'' between Ajax and Feyenoord at a pre-arranged venue. Happened some years ago now after the two clubs banned away fans from their matches. Feyenoord ''lost'' another fan to a copper's pistol in Germany when they attacked the old bill.

When I lived out there in the 80s I saw stuff I'd never seen in England. Nail bombs,guns,blades.It made what I grew up with at Arsenal, which was a bit of steaming in and a few bricks through coach or pub windows look like playground stuff. The most disturbing image for me though was whenever Feyenoord or FC Den Haag would come to Ajax. Those matches would take place at the old Olympic stadium rather than Ajax home ground de Meer.

Unlike de Meer, which was located in a working class area, the Olympic is located in a very affluent area with a large Jewish community. Feyenoord and Den Haag would march through there in their 100s chanting ''wij gaan op jodenjacht''(we're on a jew hunt), smashing up shop windows and Sieg Heiling on their way. Consider that back then many of the Jews would have been holocaust survivors and get some perspective before spouting off, because you are ''offended'' they took the piss out of your sheikh.

-- Sun Jan 20, 2013 9:43 pm --

They're just one if those clubs that used to be great but is now average at best,yet the fans can't seem to adjust . It's funny,really. I wonder what there attitude would be If some billionaire was stupid enough to buy them. not that it would ever happen as the Dutch league Is wank and no fooker wants to play in it.

yeah, a wank league that has produced more quality players than ours ever will, even if we continue this thread for another 100 years. I suspect neither your or my club would get a single mention if the combined top alltime youth products of Man City,Arsenal and Ajax were listed.

They as a club have arguably contributed more to football than any other in the world.

Whether or not a few people in Manchester don't like their caricature of a sheikh does nothing to alter that fact.

Produce some good players that fook off elsewhere because the league is a bit shit.

A league so shit it has more European/Champions League winning clubs than La Liga. The players leave for financial reasons and always have. It can't be avoided in a small country with high taxes. On the plus side the Dutch system means better education,fewer chavs, fewer smackheads,fewer broken families,single mums,better healthcare,higher life expectancy and better footballers than ours. Its all about priorities.

As for leagues, I hate sugardaddy clubs like yours and Chelski. I hate clubs exploited by foreign speculators,like my own beloved Arsenal and Man United even more. I hate the Premier League, its origins, the commercialisation, the plastic support from around the globe, the high prices and the shit sanitised atmosphere.

Look beyond the caricature of the sheikh and you'll see they have some good points about modern football.

 

[Blue Haze]

Would you be offended if the sheikh caricature was used to ridicule the allocation of the World Cup to Qatar? The answer is no, because you, like every other football fan on earth believes its a joke that FIFA sold the World Cup to a host like that.

There is nothing wrong with Qatar getting the World Cup.

An Arab with a bag of money is no different than a caricatured Chinese with a bag of money. Imagine if a wealthy Jewish owner bought a club and they portrayed him with a bag of money and wearing a kippah. It's racist all day long, but apparently this form of racism is one of the 'acceptable' forms against money. They aren't protesting money in football, they're protesting Arabs and Russians with money in football.

 

[coleridge]

Love Amsterdam. The only racists that I have ever met there were British/Irish.

 

[bobmcfc]

Much prefer feyenoord. Better fans.

Did they not murder an Ajax fan not that long ago

Well fuck me, what were you saying about generalisations???

You got him there

 

[grim up north]

Much prefer feyenoord. Better fans.

Did they not murder an Ajax fan not that long ago

Well fuck me, what were you saying about generalisations???

Walked into that one<br /><br />-- Sun Jan 20, 2013 8:57 pm --<br /><br />

Did they not murder an Ajax fan not that long ago

Yes. All of them.

The casualty was a Feyenoord fan who died after a pre-arranged ''off'' between Ajax and Feyenoord at a pre-arranged venue. Happened some years ago now after the two clubs banned away fans from their matches. Feyenoord ''lost'' another fan to a copper's pistol in Germany when they attacked the old bill.

When I lived out there in the 80s I saw stuff I'd never seen in England. Nail bombs,guns,blades.It made what I grew up with at Arsenal, which was a bit of steaming in and a few bricks through coach or pub windows look like playground stuff. The most disturbing image for me though was whenever Feyenoord or FC Den Haag would come to Ajax. Those matches would take place at the old Olympic stadium rather than Ajax home ground de Meer.

Unlike de Meer, which was located in a working class area, the Olympic is located in a very affluent area with a large Jewish community. Feyenoord and Den Haag would march through there in their 100s chanting ''wij gaan op jodenjacht''(we're on a jew hunt), smashing up shop windows and Sieg Heiling on their way. Consider that back then many of the Jews would have been holocaust survivors and get some perspective before spouting off, because you are ''offended'' they took the piss out of your sheikh.
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-- Sun Jan 20, 2013 9:43 pm --

yeah, a wank league that has produced more quality players than ours ever will, even if we continue this thread for another 100 years. I suspect neither your or my club would get a single mention if the combined top alltime youth products of Man City,Arsenal and Ajax were listed.

They as a club have arguably contributed more to football than any other in the world.

Whether or not a few people in Manchester don't like their caricature of a sheikh does nothing to alter that fact.

Produce some good players that fook off elsewhere because the league is a bit shit.

A league so shit it has more European/Champions League winning clubs than La Liga. The players leave for financial reasons and always have. It can't be avoided in a small country with high taxes. On the plus side the Dutch system means better education,fewer chavs, fewer smackheads,fewer broken families,single mums,better healthcare,higher life expectancy and better footballers than ours. Its all about priorities.

As for leagues, I hate sugardaddy clubs like yours and Chelski. I hate clubs exploited by foreign speculators,like my own beloved Arsenal and Man United even more. I hate the Premier League, its origins, the commercialisation, the plastic support from around the globe, the high prices and the shit sanitised atmosphere.

Look beyond the caricature of the sheikh and you'll see they have some good points about modern football.

Is there not a seat in the Amsterdam Areana that's paid for but not used because the seat holder died in some violence