Alexis Sanchez

[OB1]

I agree Ric. I said before that I genuinely think Wenger wanted to keep the Ox, Sanchez and Ozil and in his delusion I think he thought he could get at least 2 of them to sign new contracts.

I think the implosion that was the Liverpool game opened his eyes, and after some harsh words and soul searching reality hit him, and that's when Arsenal became open to negotiation for wantaway players.

The Liverpool game opened up our end for selling, but ironically the manner of defeat made it harder for us to replace, so it became a catch 22 situation.

Its the only thing that makes sense. Many were saying Lacazette was the replacement, well if that was the case we just would have sold. Many said we were playing a game for our fans and waiting until we couldn't replace, again we would have just sold. Therefore I think its obvious it was kind of last minute, hence we would only sell if we could replace.

Im not sure it was a deliberate act of stringing along either. Don't underestimate how incompetent our transfer negotiation team are.

You are much closer to what goes on at your club so I am inclined to think you are right on this. No offence but I call it arrogant stupidity on your club's part.

 

[Lancet Fluke]

It would be a disaster, but much less so if we had landed Sanchez and a decent CB.

Sammy Lee said throughout the window that "Sanchez was our number one target".

I am sure many will try and put a positive spin on it but Pep must be disappointed. Our PL and CL rivals will be delighted.

Good management involves adequate planning against possible disaster scenarios, even if they are considered unlikely.

My personal opinion is that a top CB was more important than Sanchez but I know Pep obviously didn't see it that way. Truth is if we did get a transfer ban we'd be in some bother in a few areas.

 

[Easy]

He is also a professional sportsman under contract - dont be so daft

He is a professional and probably won't do that but it would be wonderful to see.

 

[Saif1994]

are you thick? Sanchez is a prolific finisher no one except jesus,aguero and maybe KDB are prolific finishers, just because he made an assist against faroe islands doesn't mean he's going to carry us ffs

Are you silly? He's still gonna send it dude

 

[OB1]

They have no point as they have no idea how we negotiate. Beggars belief how many buy the media narrative on here

Lots of the media prove time and again how ignorant they are and how they are often driven by bias and frequently by a search for sensationalism.

 

[OB1]

He is a professional and probably won't do that but it would be wonderful to see.

He can be professional and still sulk...

 

[Ric]

Why have all of Tolm's post been deleted post June 2017?

They haven't. I think search is just a bit broken (we had to switch it off last night when the forum went down). I've just looked and his posts are all still there, e.g:

http://forums.bluemoon-mcfc.co.uk/threads/alexis-sanchez.321724/page-2596#post-10446851

 

[ShaunMCFC]

Is this still on then?

 

[GunnerGer]

Pretty fair assessment but the only way it works out for Arsenal is if Sanchez has a brilliant season guiding Arsenal to the top 4. I can't see it though and it means Arsenal will have to replace Sanchez, possibly Ozil and Chamberlain next summer but without the £60m that Sanchez would have sold for.

You are much closer to what goes on at your club so I am inclined to think you are right on this. No offence but I call it arrogant stupidity on your club's part.

I totally agree with you both. I think most Arsenal fans as well realised after Liverpool (if they didn't already think so) it would be best probably to start again. I don't think anything our board and negotiating team do surprise us now.

We are now left clinging on to the hope that somehow Wenger can pull everyone else together to at least muster a top 4 challenge, which to be fair, he has brought us back from the brink a few times in his tenure. If not it's been a shambles, both on the park and from a business point of view.

 

[Tugay One Cup]

Can he not get himself fired by shagging Wenger's daughter or something?

 

[Plain Speaking]

First point - I very much doubt it if Wenger is a happy bunny at all.
Speculative at best I'm afraid, we don't know how the negotiations were undertaken

Wenger has kept his team's best player from last season and has an excuse, (albeit a weak one), that they tried to act on Sanchez's wish to leave.

I am sure Wenger is unhappy with his side's abject performance against Liverpool but quietly he is probably thinking that the transfer window could have been a lot worse for Arsenal.

If Sammy Lee's information is correct we have failed to land Pep's number one target for this window. That alone will be good news for Wenger and Arsenal.

Going forward much will depend on Sanchez's attitude and professionalism.

 

[inchy14]

I think we'll go back in for him in January. Whether or not Arsenal will sell is another matter, but they need to find a way to get Sanchez motivated again for the coming months. A gentleman's agreement that he can go in the next window if he gives his all would go some way to ensuring that.

Seems there was a 'gentlemans agreement' in place yesterday for him to come to us, just the Tarquins reneged on it. Doubt he'll trust them again.

 

[OB1]

I totally agree with you both. I think most Arsenal fans as well realised after Liverpool (if they didn't already think so) it would be best probably to start again. I don't think anything our board and negotiating team do surprise us now.

We are now left clinging on to the hope that somehow Wenger can pull everyone else together to at least muster a top 4 challenge, which to be fair, he has brought us back from the brink a few times in his tenure. If not it's been a shambles, both on the park and from a business point of view.

TBF, I rated Wenger for a long time and even wanted him here at one point. I also recall a former chairman of ours going to meet him just to discuss how Arsenal were run, when you looked like one of the models to follow. However, something has gone badly wrong and Wenger should have retired at the end of last season. No guarantees of course that the next manager will get it right but a rethink does appear to be needed; maybe time for the dreaded DoF ;-)

 

[Xiphos]

They have no point as they have no idea how we negotiate. Beggars belief how many buy the media narrative on here

I actually don't buy the media narrative, i use my own brain and i can see for myself that there is something wrong 'backstage'
Every Blue i know was texting and calling me and each other about how we were shaping up throughout this transfer, the common theme was we will fuck it up as NOBODY had any confidence in our backroom staff to get it over the line, the extensive Blue circles i move in have had this opinion about our staff for years, it's nothing new

 

[peter barnes ate my hamster]

Only Arsewipe can clutch defeat from the Jaws of victory in such spectacular fashion.
All the way through the summer Wenger was adamant that the club were standing firm and would not accept an offer for Sanchez. He could have come out of the window with some respect intact after sticking to his word for the first time. And then they go and fook it up big style by accepting an offer on the very last day of the window.

I used to think of them as the ideal model of a well run club but they have become an embarrassment.

Shame we have missed out for now but not long until January and we can all flap again.

 

[Ban-jani]

I blame Txiki and Soriano to be honest, there's an entire summer there to secure the best forward in the league and they left it to the presumption that Arsenal are adequate.

We should have been quicker on higher bids which would have forced Alexis to hand his transfer request in earlier, thus allowing Arsenal more time to find a replacement.

Feels like the Van Persie summer where a key signing has cost us.

No doubt some of you will tell me to "man up" or that "we've got enough", the latter may be the case but we had a great chance to get a season defining player in their peak and fluffed it.

 

[Tugay One Cup]

I actually don't buy the media narrative, i use my own brain and i can see for myself that there is something wrong 'backstage'
Every Blue i know was texting and calling me and each other about how we were shaping up throughout this transfer, the common theme was we will fuck it up as NOBODY had any confidence in our backroom staff to get it over the line, the extensive Blue circles i move in have had this opinion about our staff for years, it's nothing new

But you don't know any of them, what they actually do or how they actually do it. Just because your meticulously crafted think-tank have decided that our staff are inept that doesn't make it so. We should be very happy with how this window has gone but two failed transfers - one fucked up by the selling club and the other a result of a player going against his word - seem to have baited quite a few people into losing their shit.

 

[Mike D]

I blame Txiki and Soriano to be honest, there's an entire summer there to secure the best forward in the league and they left it to the presumption that Arsenal are adequate.

We should have been quicker on higher bids which would have forced Alexis to hand his transfer request in earlier, thus allowing Arsenal more time to find a replacement.

Feels like the Van Persie summer where a key signing has cost us.

No doubt some of you will tell me to "man up" or that "we've got enough", the latter may be the case but we had a great chance to get a season defining player in their peak and fluffed it.

Come there's no point getting your arse over this, we only have to wait until January and he's ours if the rumours are true? From now on Sanchez does a Costa and refuses to play for them and stays in Chile. Then we offer to take Sanchez on loan with a small fee until the end of the season when we get him for free.

I am sure that we can manage until then and imagine the boost he will give us for the business end of the season?

 

[Sir peace frog]

(Arsenal fan - not here to mock)

Curious as to why this forum, and so many other City fans, are putting the blame in Arsenal's court.

Money isn't an issue for you guys so,presumably if you'd just bid enough a few months earlier you would have had him.

mock what ?????,you've got a player who doesn't want to play for you,its going to cost you £70,000,000 for the season, loose sanchez on a free then spend god knows how much to try and replace him,i reckon this has cost arsenal in the region of £200,000,000

we have an excellent squad ,would of been better with sanchez,you have a decent squad who most of the decent players want to leave ,we have a manager who most love at city who is forward thinking and up there imo with the best in the world,youve got wenger,our owners want to make us the best in the world,yours wants profit,

arsenal have been turned into a bit of a laughing stock ,Manchester city are feared.

not here to mock HAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHA

 

[BlueDejong]

Here we go again, guys.