The blue phantom
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Why does any timeline matter, even the assaults on other police officers are irrelevant in what occurred when this man was on the ground. Minimum should be Job lost and prosecuted.
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Altercation at Terminal 2
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and thats why there are proper processes in place-not the jury of social media.which can't be determined by an edited video.
west didsblue
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So you’re suggesting that the police should be allowed to kick someone in the head and stamp on it as retribution for something they did earlier?I know which I’m going for.
I’ve seen a clip of the two with a lawyer that was taken the middle of Wednesday night. Compo face perfected.
I suppose it saves having to go to court if they’re allowed to invent their own punishment.
Bigga
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I agree with this. I'm a woman and I have many views on how society deals with violence against women - but I think a woman serving as a frontline police officer is at risk in these incidents not because she's a woman, but because she's serving in the capacity of an officer putting herself in harms way, same as any male officer.
When I see men arguing that "if I was an officer and had seen that happen to a female colleague, then I would want to do the same", I just think it leans into paternalistic bullshit to be quite honest with you. If you want to be an ally there's a million other things you can be arsed about in terms of what a lot of women deal with day to day.
I really hope all the GUYS on here referring the officer injured as female or adding 'w' to the 'pc' get to read your message.
They are, rather than being 'chivalrous', sexist in their outlook and not in favour of true equality.
nonsense-it all matters.Why does any timeline matter, even the assaults on other police officers are irrelevant in what occurred when this man was on the ground. Minimum should be Job lost and prosecuted.
Eccles Blue
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I thought it was a man not a family? Actually don't answer (no disrespect but I despair of the world at present so I don't even know why I am reading the thread.) :-( :-)Believe the family are from Rochdale. And also, it's Rochdale.
Sorry @bluejon
arbabarshad
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Seen a video from George Galloway suggesting the guy being hit in the video has a brother and father who are serving police officers. Wonder if it’s related at all.
Bigga
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of note-is it the same officer who uses his spray captured on another video.
not sure where that sits in the timeline.
But one word comes to mind with this officer... "reactionary".
Not good.
Citizen of Legoland
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Am I the only one who thinks the copper held back with the kick and the stamp ended up being more a glance to the top of the head? Doesn't look great of course but I see it as three outnumbered officers (at first), two of them female and all have deployed their tasers.
That’s one of a couple of theories going about, the other being the attempt to search the woman wearing a hijab. The fact the family member says ‘racism at its fines
There's also a version of events I've seen that states the the mother of the family was subjected to racist abuse and was hit by a trolley by another member of the public and the altercation spilled over when the police sided with the aggressor. I don't believe that version of events any more than I believe yours at the moment.
I would advise reposting rumours as though they're fact in an attempt to defend the actions of either party here to question what their own underlying agenda is here.
Would also ask the mods to delete any posts where people are giving an uncorroborated version of events without clearly citing it as such. Because most of what I'm seeing on here seems to be designed to stir up racist sentiment.
The blue phantom
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How?nonsense-it all matters.
KennyG
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Why does any timeline matter, even the assaults on other police officers are irrelevant in what occurred when this man was on the ground. Minimum should be Job lost and prosecuted.
Easy to type this, you’re not in the situation.
Seeing your colleagues beaten up.
It looked excessive, but even so, I feel there is enough mitigation to justify it. It’s a human reaction.
mosssideblue
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Irrelevant what happened previously, the copper was out of control (probably from rage) and didn't use proportionate force to detain the fella, who was already tasered and prone on the floorBecause of how it escalated to the point in question.
Quite possibly-it'll all need to be investigated.But one word comes to mind with this officer... "reactionary".
Not good.
BlueHammer85
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While there is no justification for kicking someone in the head when they are prone and the copper will get whats coming to them, it has somewhat been glossed over that the offender had already assaulted 2 people before this point so shouldnt be talked of as some kind of saint.
Has anyone mentioned he is 'some kind of saint' ?
mosssideblue
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Does that make a significant difference?left arm under him
Bigga
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It was a woman copper who got her nose broke, fuck religion and beliefs when it comes to security of the vast majority. It’s all made up shit anyway.
So, you care for the female police officer's protection, but not the female Muslim's dignity?
If I'm honest, that's quite a disappointing answer from someone I respect.
LangleyBlue1970
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Literally nobody has used racism throughout this - apart from the family member who accused the police of being racist.There's also a version of events I've seen that states the the mother of the family was subjected to racist abuse and was hit by a trolley by another member of the public and the altercation spilled over when the police sided with the aggressor. I don't believe that version of events any more than I believe yours at the moment.
I would advise reposting rumours as though they're fact in an attempt to defend the actions of either party here to question what their own underlying agenda is here.
Would also ask the mods to delete any posts where people are giving an uncorroborated version of events without clearly citing it as such. Because most of what I'm seeing on here seems to be designed to stir up racist sentiment.
As for what’s posted on here, it’s just that - posts on the internet of what people’s views are based on what they’ve seen
I think maybe you’re looking at it a bit too in-depth, when all you’ve seen is what everyone else has.
well yes, the details are important.Does that make a significant difference?
The blue phantom
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A human reaction to deliver an almighty Kick to someone's head who's on the floor followed by a Stamp. Deary me.Easy to type this, you’re not in the situation.
Seeing your colleagues beaten up.
It looked excessive, but even so, I feel there is enough mitigation to justify it. It’s a human rereaction.