Altercation at Terminal 2

argyle said:
Who decides he's a criminal and committed a crime?

That's what the courts are for.

Not for the police to dish out punishment and retribution.
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Your right its their job to neutralise the threat. They did this but some smacked arses can't stomach what it takes to stop a number of attackers. They took the decision not to use lethal force, a mistake in my mind their wireless hole punchers should be smoking and Back home for tea and biscuits
 
ChicagoBlue said:
I’m a huge proponent of strong law and order. This is not that. This is hothead in a uniform taking it out on a defenseless perp. Police officer has no business wearing a badge, let alone a gun.

With authority comes responsibility.

This behavior is, in my book, GBH and, understanding exactly what a full swing kick to the head and subsequent stomp can truly accomplish, attempted murder.

Again, I’m in favor of strong policing, but this stopped being policing when the red mist descended and he swung his foot at the defenseless head of a suspect under control.

That’s not policing, that’s personal violence based on runaway adrenaline and a reversion to the basest instincts. That’s not policing, it is street fighting thuggery of someone believing he is shielded from the law by his uniform and badge. He should not be.
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You make some reasonable points but you can't say it's GBH by definition because there was clearly no Grevious bodily harm caused to the 'victim'. Grevious Bodily Harm- you either cause it or you don't. Unless you can prove he had the mens rea to go out and unlawfully murder someone then you can't say it's attempted murder either.
He'll probably get dismissed for the blanket offence of Misconduct in a public office then charged criminally for Common assault and maybe a public order offence. Barred from ever working in the public sector for life.
Meanwhile, the people who created the disturbance in the first place will probably escape punishment.
 
bluemc1 said:
For the legally minded how do you think this will turn out ?
If it does turn out he’s hit coppers I would imagine he will be going to jail so would they maybe make a deal to drop charges against copper to avoid jail time or have I watched to many Law & Orders ?
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Personally can see the copper getting sacked and facing a damages claim from not only the fella getting kicked, but also the second fella on the bench too.

The courts will deal with those who created the disturbance
 
I wonder how many will feel different if footage emerged and it turned out the copper got her nose broke by someone kick it whilst lay on the floor? Probably didn’t but those cunts in the tik tok video especially the one in the middle will be all over it for compo, let’s hope the copper counter sues them.
 
Worsleyweb said:
If you want to defend people attacking armed police at an airport - you carry on doing so.

Would she have a broken nose if the 2 pricks had just behaved?

How would you feel if your sister or daughter got a broken nose doing her job?
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My daughter is a paramedic and I always worry about her being assaulted by some smackhead or drunk who's off their tits, or someone with schizophrenia or other mental health issues.

My temptation, if present in that situation, might well be to do what the police officer did in that scenario. But I also know I'd face the full force of the law for my actions if I did that and it was filmed or witnessed. And whatever sympathy any magistrate, judge or jury might have with me as a father, they'd apply the applicable law.

People may well have sympathy with the officer involved if he'd witnessed his colleagues being violently attacked and injured but the prima facie evidence seems to suggest he may have broken the law that he's supposed to uphold. That law allows reasonable force in certain circumstances but I'd hazard a guess that those particular circumstances won't qualify in that regard.
 
Blue Maverick said:
I wonder how many will feel different if footage emerged and it turned out the copper got her nose broke by someone kick it whilst lay on the floor? Probably didn’t but those cunts in the tik tok video especially the one in the middle will be all over it for compo, let’s hope the copper counter sues them.
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LOL, if that video existed i'm sure the police would have made sure we'd all seen it by now.
 
I'm not up to speed on this. It's being reported as a racially motivated police attack.
Can i ask how this is racially motivated?
Are will going to see riots over this from other Asians just because they were Asians?

If a person complies, no escalation takes place.
Start acting the big man and the force applied will multiply.
Punch a Police officer and all bets are now off.

Although i would say it did seems excessive on the edited short clip i've seen. I don't have the full story and can only say that once a fight breaks out, it is now a "combat" situation normal rules no longer apply.
 
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fulabeer said:
I'm not up to speed on this. It's being reported as a racially motivated police attack.
Can i ask how this is racially motivated?
I will going to see riots over this from other Asians just because they were Asians?

If a person complies, no escalation takes place.
Start acting the big man and the force applied will multiply.
Punch a Police officer and all bets are now off.

Although i would say it did seems excessive on the edited short clip i've seen. I don't have the full story and can only say that once fight breaks out, it is now a "combat" situation normal rules no longer apply.
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The ones outside the Rochdale nick last night were shouting into their megaphones that it was a racially motivated attack. I have fucking no idea where they get that from.
 
LangleyBlue1970 said:
The ones outside the Rochdale nick last night were shouting into their megaphones that it was a racially motivated attack. I have fucking no idea where they get that from.
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It's certainly being stoked up that way, but there doesn't seem to be much evidence for it. There's social media accounts circulating the video with a focus on the fact that it was "a young Muslim man," and giving zero other context. As much as I think the police officer went way too far, shit like that on social media really isn't helping matters.
 
Dubai Blue said:
It's certainly being stoked up that way, but there doesn't seem to be much evidence for it. There's social media accounts circulating the video with a focus on the fact that it was "a young Muslim man," and giving zero other context. As much as I think the police officer went way too far, shit like that on social media really isn't helping matters.
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On one of the clips that looks like it’s just after the restraining of the fella, a family member bellows out that it’s a racist attack by the police. As soon as he said that it’s what they will cling to, thus proven in Rochdale last night.

I just hope there is no bullshit tonight, because as we’ve seen in Leeds it really doesn’t take much does it.
 
fulabeer said:
I'm not up to speed on this. It's being reported as a racially motivated police attack.
Can i ask how this is racially motivated?
I will going to see riots over this from other Asians just because they were Asians?

If a person complies, no escalation takes place.
Start acting the big man and the force applied will multiply.
Punch a Police officer and all bets are now off.

Although i would say it did seems excessive on the edited short clip i've seen. I don't have the full story and can only say that once fight breaks out, it is now a "combat" situation normal rules no longer apply.
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FFS
 
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