An End to Terrace/Armchair Managers vs Mancini...

[Jim Tolmie's Underpants]

We got overrun and hammered with the personel and formation.

So the logic was wrong. Even the manager admitted it. Why can't you?

Maybe you cannot piece events together, but the personnel he put out was in response to the negative tag he quite wrongly receives!!

Afterwards, he said he was wrong, probably because he should have carried on the way he has done and not listened to all the whingers!!

LOL..... Just LOL! What a pile of absolute bollocks.

So Mancini changed a team that had won 5-0 to appease the "whingers"? Who, exactly, was whinging about 'negativity' after Sunderland? No one.

No one was moaning after that game. So Mancini had no reason to listen "to all the whingers" and change the team for Liverpool.

How the hell you can defend Mancini by coming out with this guff is beyond a joke.

And if a manager decides his team selection on the wishes of "whingers" then he shouldn't be in the bloody job! He's paid millions to manage and pick the team.

 

[Chicken Kiev]

BOG OFF.

 

[Bigga]

Ow! That must've stung. Knowing that the truth hurts that all you have to do with football is spreading gossip and malicious ones at that. Is that what you have to offer on a 'football front'?? Have you offered any insight as to why de Jong didn't start, at least? Or why we were attacked so easily??

*shakes head*

If you're the 'font of all knowledge' when it comes to football, then we're truly screwed as a fan base!

I wrote this in Jan after seeing this trio play twice, I think

"Dzeko will play with either Tévez in support(if he wants to be disciplined enough to do the job) or Silva.

Mancini will see that not all three can play. After all, you cannot have two 'central' strikers traversing through the same area of play, nor can you have two play makers traversing through the same area of play. Why? Cos they get in each other's way and often there's empty space where someone should be, but isn't as they're occupying someone's space. So, three into two doesn't go.

I think you may see Tévez 'rested' more and more as we seek balance and control within the formation. The odds are that the main attack rotation will come from Silva, Dzeko or Tévez benched at regular intervals, during Prem games."

Not too wide of the mark for 'clueless'.

So because you saw something and wrote about it you aren't clueless?
I've always maintained that Micah will be a great player, does that make mr immune to criticism?

Two different things. One showing what one sees in personnel and styles within the system and one guessing how a player might turn out!! I'm still waiting for you show you have thought about interaction within the playing system or how balanced/ unbalanced it can become using certain players.

Or is it easier to prance around on tippy toes clapping your hands waiting to post tid bits of gossip you wish to share...?

Maybe you cannot piece events together, but the personnel he put out was in response to the negative tag he quite wrongly receives!!

Afterwards, he said he was wrong, probably because he should have carried on the way he has done and not listened to all the whingers!!

LOL..... Just LOL! What a pile of absolute bollocks.

So Mancini changed a team that had won 5-0 to appease the "whingers"? Who, exactly, was whinging about 'negativity' after Sunderland? No one.

No one was moaning after that game. So Mancini had no reason to listen "to all the whingers" and change the team for Liverpool.

How the hell you can defend Mancini by coming out with this guff is beyond a joke.

And if a manager decides his team selection on the wishes of "whingers" then he shouldn't be in the bloody job! He's paid millions to manage and pick the team.

Tell me you've not heard the word "negative" ringing in the air towards the club since January, at least, from fans to pundits? The Dipper game was a chance to try something different using a wealth of experienced international players that should have got the job done. Surely you could see the personnel had an attacking intent to it??

Of course you won't because you don't want to.

 

[Jim Tolmie's Underpants]

LOL..... Just LOL! What a pile of absolute bollocks.

So Mancini changed a team that had won 5-0 to appease the "whingers"? Who, exactly, was whinging about 'negativity' after Sunderland? No one.

No one was moaning after that game. So Mancini had no reason to listen "to all the whingers" and change the team for Liverpool.

How the hell you can defend Mancini by coming out with this guff is beyond a joke.

And if a manager decides his team selection on the wishes of "whingers" then he shouldn't be in the bloody job! He's paid millions to manage and pick the team.

Tell me you've not heard the word "negative" ringing in the air towards the club since January, at least, from fans to pundits?

So what? How does this support your Mancini Changed A Winning Team Because Of The Whingers bollocks?

Please tell us who exactly was 'whinging' after the Sunderland game.

You won't, because nobody was 'whinging'. Therefore, he had absolutely no reason on earth to change the team for Liverpool because of your imagined 'whingers'.

Or, is your claim this:

Mancini changed a side that beat Sunderland 5-0 because he remembered that some fans had been whinging a few weeks ago BEFORE the Sunderland game?!

Laughable!

The Dipper game was a chance to try something different

Why?! What clueless idiot would change a team that had played excellently (for the first time in weeks!) and turned over Sunderland 5-0?

Why change it? For what logical reason? He had been previously getting stick because of our poor performances and results. His excuse? "The players - they iz very, very tired". So we surrender the Euopa, we have a good rest and then come out all guns blazing and put in a great performance against Sunderland.

Great. Let's kick on!

But what does he do? Decides not to go with the team which had done us all proud. Instead, he drops our best creative player and best defensive midfield player against a rejuvinated Liverpool team which has recently beaten Chelsea and the Rags and have a very good home record.

Result? The team gets completely over run in midfield, Liverpool dominate and we get hammered 3-0.

Madness, sheer unadulterated madness!

using a wealth of experienced international players that should have got the job done.

Yeah, a midfield two of Barry and Ya Ya that would make a tub of lard look nippy. Millner out of his best position on the wing. Johnson on the wrong wing so he has to cut inside every time.

The combination of players and their positions was a hammering waiting to happen. There were loads of posts sayting this BEFORE the game started. The fans could see it - why couldn't our genious of a manager?

Surely you could see the personnel had an attacking intent to it??

Intent is all very well. The proof, however, is what you do. And we did fuk all to trouble a Liverpool defence that had conceeded two goals to WBA in the previous game!

Of course you won't because you don't want to.

Deary, me!

 

[A Dirty and Torn Cloth]

Torn Cloth here.

I think Mancini is doing a good job with you guys, he just needs more time. Fergie didn't turn United around overnight..

 

[Bigga]

Tell me you've not heard the word "negative" ringing in the air towards the club since January, at least, from fans to pundits?

So what? How does this support your Mancini Changed A Winning Team Because Of The Whingers bollocks?

Please tell us who exactly was 'whinging' after the Sunderland game.

You won't, because nobody was 'whinging'. Therefore, he had absolutely no reason on earth to change the team for Liverpool because of your imagined 'whingers'.

Or, is your claim this:

Mancini changed a side that beat Sunderland 5-0 because he remembered that some fans had been whinging a few weeks ago BEFORE the Sunderland game?!

Laughable!

The Dipper game was a chance to try something different

Why?! What clueless idiot would change a team that had played excellently (for the first time in weeks!) and turned over Sunderland 5-0?

Why change it? For what logical reason? He had been previously getting stick because of our poor performances and results. His excuse? "The players - they iz very, very tired". So we surrender the Euopa, we have a good rest and then come out all guns blazing and put in a great performance against Sunderland.

Great. Let's kick on!

But what does he do? Decides not to go with the team which had done us all proud. Instead, he drops our best creative player and best defensive midfield player against a rejuvinated Liverpool team which has recently beaten Chelsea and the Rags and have a very good home record.

Result? The team gets completely over run in midfield, Liverpool dominate and we get hammered 3-0.

Madness, sheer unadulterated madness!

using a wealth of experienced international players that should have got the job done.

Yeah, a midfield two of Barry and Ya Ya that would make a tub of lard look nippy. Millner out of his best position on the wing. Johnson on the wrong wing so he has to cut inside every time.

The combination of players and their positions was a hammering waiting to happen. There were loads of posts sayting this BEFORE the game started. The fans could see it - why couldn't our genious of a manager?

Surely you could see the personnel had an attacking intent to it??

Intent is all very well. The proof, however, is what you do. And we did fuk all to trouble a Liverpool defence that had conceeded two goals to WBA in the previous game!

Of course you won't because you don't want to.

Deary, me!

Well, gladly you have weak argument highlighted by the WBA comment. Based on this comment alone, it seems just feasible to put out the team he did as I'm pretty sure that team would have gotten a result at the Baggies!!

We played with a lopsided midfield as Milner didn't play the wing, as well you know. He drifted across the middle. So we played 3 in the middle with Milner floating, rightly or wrongly.

In fact, I'd say Milner's floating was the problem, as he left the side unbalanced and gaps behind him. Iirc, the Dippers did a lot of their damage on the side JM was supposed to be.

 

[Marvin]

Can we agree that you don't know what you're talking about, finally??

I've been watching City for over 40 years and know shite when I see it.

Can we agree that people will stop defending the indefensible?

Counts for nothing. We've all been football mad for all our lives, but we've all got differing opinions. If you're basing your argument on experience = nous then Mancini beats you hands down.

I agree withn the original poster. we were too open against Liverpool. Three years time when we're Champions we can play great football. For the time being we are nt the finished article however much monies has been spent. It's by any means necessary.

I liked the way we battled out a point at Arsenal. Backs to the walls 1-0 smash and grab away win is a great feeling. If anything we play too much football away from home

 

[Jim Tolmie's Underpants]

So what? How does this support your Mancini Changed A Winning Team Because Of The Whingers bollocks?

Please tell us who exactly was 'whinging' after the Sunderland game.

You won't, because nobody was 'whinging'. Therefore, he had absolutely no reason on earth to change the team for Liverpool because of your imagined 'whingers'.

Or, is your claim this:

Mancini changed a side that beat Sunderland 5-0 because he remembered that some fans had been whinging a few weeks ago BEFORE the Sunderland game?!

Laughable!



Why?! What clueless idiot would change a team that had played excellently (for the first time in weeks!) and turned over Sunderland 5-0?

Why change it? For what logical reason? He had been previously getting stick because of our poor performances and results. His excuse? "The players - they iz very, very tired". So we surrender the Euopa, we have a good rest and then come out all guns blazing and put in a great performance against Sunderland.

Great. Let's kick on!

But what does he do? Decides not to go with the team which had done us all proud. Instead, he drops our best creative player and best defensive midfield player against a rejuvinated Liverpool team which has recently beaten Chelsea and the Rags and have a very good home record.

Result? The team gets completely over run in midfield, Liverpool dominate and we get hammered 3-0.

Madness, sheer unadulterated madness!



Yeah, a midfield two of Barry and Ya Ya that would make a tub of lard look nippy. Millner out of his best position on the wing. Johnson on the wrong wing so he has to cut inside every time.

The combination of players and their positions was a hammering waiting to happen. There were loads of posts sayting this BEFORE the game started. The fans could see it - why couldn't our genious of a manager?



Intent is all very well. The proof, however, is what you do. And we did fuk all to trouble a Liverpool defence that had conceeded two goals to WBA in the previous game!



Deary, me!

Well, gladly you have weak argument highlighted by the WBA comment.

Why is it a weak argument? How many did they score? How many did we? How many worthwhile attacks did we muster? Please tell us!

My "WBA argument" illustrates my point that "intent" is one thing, putting it into meaningful operation is another. Especially if you are going to deliberately tie one hand behind your back as Mancini did by dropping your best players and then playing the wrong combination of players and in the wrong positions!

If it doesn't, then rebut it with a coherent argument instead of one sentence guff with no substance.

Based on this comment alone, it seems just feasible to put out the team he did as I'm pretty sure that team would have gotten a result at the Baggies!!

So, you're saying it's "feasable" to put out the team which played absolutely crap against Liverpool against the baggies because you'd think they'd win?!

Are you for real?

We played with a lopsided midfield as Milner didn't play the wing, as well you know. He drifted across the middle.

And why did he do that? Cos he's crap on the wing! He's been played there countless times this season and has done jack shit. So why does our genious of a manager keep doing it?!

Stupidity: Doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different result!

You still haven't told us who all these "whingers" where after the Sunderland 5-0.

You still haven't explained to us Mancini's justification for dropping our best midfield players for 'a change'.

Still waiting.....

 

[Bigga]

Wow, I cannot believe I'm about to spell this out...

JM; international player in midfield and wing play(if necessary).

GB; international player in midfield in DM and left.

YT; international midfield player in DM, centre and attack(if necessary).

AJ; international player on the wing, left(if necessary) or right.

CT; international player in SS/ AM/ S.

ED; international player in S position.

Tell me again where the supposed 'wrong combination' was...?? I've not even bothered with the defence cos that would make you look silly.

So, tell me again that this combo would not be deemed able to grab a result at Dipperland, never mind West Brom??

Are you suggesting that this is not a 'feasible team'?? If these players cannot be deemed good enough to get something on paper, then why the fook are they picked internationally in their positions??

Whingers before the Baggies game and whingers after the BC's game equals whingers silent for one game.

 

[blueinsa]

One last time for those deluded enough to come on here and try and defend Mancini.....

.....he has admitted that he COMPLETELY FUCKED UP!

Yet you still try and argue that he didn't ffs?