Another new Brexit thread

[Mazzarelli's Swiss Cheese]

Frost is the official appointed to head the U.K. negotiating team and he has been to Brussels several times.

Sorry mate, I thought you mean't David Frost, who Tbf hasn't been on telly for ages so might be in Brussels.

 

[journolud]

......sovereign parliament including all those so against it now voted for it as well.

I hope the fucking lot of them lose their seats at the next GE.

The mess we are in and face is the fault of Parliament and fuck all to do with the electorate.

650 lying, deceitful back stabbing twats.

I'm not the biggest fan of most politicians but I don't think sweeping statements like this add much to the debate. I really can't recall how the referendum bill was passed and whether there was much objection to it, perhaps many MPs thought it was a safe bet that remain would win and giving the public a vote would put the issue to bed for a while and take the wind out of Farage's sails and those like him.

What is clear now is that many MPs have had to wrestle with their consciences and some have paid quite a price for not doing the easy thing.

 

[BobKowalski]

He's BoJos' Sherpa

Given Johnson is currently trapped in an icy ravine of his own devising Frost is an apt name for his Sherpa.

 

[M18CTID]

I'm not the biggest fan of most politicians but I don't think sweeping statements like this add much to the debate. I really can't recall how the referendum bill was passed and whether there was much objection to it, perhaps many MPs thought it was a safe bet that remain would win and giving the public a vote would put the issue to bed for a while and take the wind out of Farage's sails and those like him.

What is clear now is that many MPs have had to wrestle with their consciences and some have paid quite a price for not doing the easy thing.

Sweeping statements don't help as I'm sure it's not all 650 but he does have a point, and it seems you do agree with him to an extent.

 

[joe123]

Clear and to the point...

the guy on the left looks the epitome of someone spectacularly out of their depth.

 

[blueinsa]

I'm not the biggest fan of most politicians but I don't think sweeping statements like this add much to the debate. I really can't recall how the referendum bill was passed and whether there was much objection to it, perhaps many MPs thought it was a safe bet that remain would win and giving the public a vote would put the issue to bed for a while and take the wind out of Farage's sails and those like him.

What is clear now is that many MPs have had to wrestle with their consciences and some have paid quite a price for not doing the easy thing.

Wankers the vast majority of them who instead of doing what the electorate asked and sticking to promises made have instead played party politics and back tracked.

The fucking lot of them can lose their seats for me and we start afresh.

 

[bluejon]

Wankers the vast majority of them who instead of doing what the electorate asked and sticking to promises made have instead played party politics and back tracked.

The fucking lot of them can lose their seats for me and we start afresh.

You must like May then? She went to Brussels, got a deal, it was voted down.

 

[journolud]

You must like May then? She went to Brussels, got a deal, it was voted down.

But many voted for it. Got to have some respect for them too.

 

[Churchlawtonblue]

This is a really disingenuous point as is Scotland voted to remain etc.

The vote was a national vote, it was not constituency based and that combination of voting systems really is irrelevant to the outcome. If it was constituency based as it could have been and delegates were elected on a one off special basis then Brexit would have been enacted with no problem. However at the general election people did not vote just on the basis of leave or remain. There were other factors that people considered to be more important. For instance, myself would always vote on the whole manifesto and especially the health policies and the brexit question was irrelevant to me

I understand and agree with what you are saying. However I stated what I did to dispel the belief that Brexit is just a Tory thing, when clearly it is not to many labour voters.

 

[Mazzarelli's Swiss Cheese]

I understand and agree with what you are saying. However I stated what I did to dispel the belief that Brexit is just a Tory thing, when clearly it is not to many labour voters.

Yep, truly a cross party issue - as is remain.