Arsenal Thread 2013/14

[AFC14]

Arsenal look really tasty this season. Funny how the gooner fans were all calling for Wengers head after that Villa defeat

Ramsey really has improved.
Walcott will always get slagged off but always assisting or scoring. Class player
And Ozil is pure class.
Giroud needs to stay fit for the whole season if Arsenal are really gonna challenge.

Challenge for what? Certainly not the league.

While I'm pretty sure we won't actually win the league, it isn't ridiculous to think we could put in a decent challenge for it. After all, we've won 15 out of our last 18 games with just 1 defeat. There are better teams in the league but I think it will be a very open season.

 

[scotty123]

Arsenal look really tasty this season. Funny how the gooner fans were all calling for Wengers head after that Villa defeat

Ramsey really has improved.
Walcott will always get slagged off but always assisting or scoring. Class player
And Ozil is pure class.
Giroud needs to stay fit for the whole season if Arsenal are really gonna challenge.

Challenge for what? Certainly not the league.

While I'm pretty sure we won't actually win the league, it isn't ridiculous to think we could put in a decent challenge for it. After all, we've won 15 out of our last 18 games with just 1 defeat. There are better teams in the league but I think it will be a very open season.

Good first team, not got strength in depth though

 

[mike channon´s windmill]

The same Daily Mail article where the agent's fee came from also stated later on that the actual fee paid by Arsenal was £1.5 million.

Just for comparison, your transfers from the January and Summer transfer windows in 2012 saw a £10.5m spend on agent fees for the following players:

Jack Rodwell (£12m), Scott Sinclair (£8m), Maicon (undisclosed), Matija Nastasic (undisclosed), Javi Garcia (£16m), David Pizarro (loan), Richard Wright (free)

We don´t pay agents fees pal against club policy so that´s BS

<a class="postlink" href="http://www.premierleague.com/en-gb/news/news/2012-13/dec/premier-league-release-agents-fees-nov-2012.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.premierleague.com/en-gb/news ... -2012.html</a>

The Premier League has published details of its clubs' payments to agents from the period 1 October 2011 to 30 September 2012.

During this period a total of £77,003,130 was spent by the 20 Premier League clubs on agents.

The amounts shown include payments made by clubs on behalf of players and there were 806 transactions during the specified period, although not all of these will have attracted an agent's fee.

The Premier League agreed in June 2008 that from season 2009/10 onwards each club would publish, on 30 November each season, the total amount it paid to authorised agents during the period 1 October of the previous year to 30 September of that year (encompassing the two transfer windows).
Arsenal £5,580,873
Aston Villa £2,730,539
Chelsea £6,490,382
Everton £3,092,891
Fulham £2,581,208
Liverpool £8,600,444
Manchester City £10,537,982
Manchester United £3,681,580
Newcastle United £3,485,503
Norwich City £1,248,725
Queens Park Rangers £6,818,688
Reading £2,167,833
Southampton £646,106
Stoke City £1,717,266
Sunderland £2,173,762
Swansea City £1,100,845
Tottenham Hotspur £6,595,905
West Bromwich Albion £1,341,301
West Ham United £4,436,992
Wigan Athletic £1,974,305
TOTAL £77,003,130

Sorry let me rephrase - we refuse to pay massive one off payments to bloodsucking scumbags such as the agents for Hazard and Isco who tried to dry bum rape us at the final hour. I imagine the same types who brokered the Ozil deal. The figures you quote are the normal percentages agreed by most clubs for most transfers. Le Arse would appear , after a lengthy period of austerity in these matters , have joined the likes of Barca , Madrid and Chavs in giving in to the demands of these leeches.

 

[adrianr]

With all due respect, Liverpool love playing this card. Your form over those games includes a whopping great rest called summer.

If you only concentrated on the league, literally only the league, sod off the CL (which you can't, because the money is more important to your board than winning the league), sod the FA Cup, sod the league cup - you may be in with a shout providing you don't pick up any serious injuries. But you'd still have to get past the rags, with a much better squad, Chelsea with Mourinho, and us.

Depends of course what you mean by challenge, but I'd say with five games to go no one will have Arsenal down as league candidates.

 

[AFC14]

Sorry let me rephrase - we refuse to pay massive one off payments to bloodsucking scumbags such as the agents for Hazard and Isco who tried to dry bum rape us at the final hour. I imagine the same types who brokered the Ozil deal. The figures you quote are the normal percentages agreed by most clubs for most transfers. Le Arse would appear , after a lengthy period of austerity in these matters , have joined the likes of Barca , Madrid and Chavs in giving in to the demands of these leeches.

I fail to see how a £1.5m fee is not a normal percentage of a £42.5m transfer, from those figures it seems pretty reasonable.

With all due respect, Liverpool love playing this card. Your form over those games includes a whopping great rest called summer.

If you only concentrated on the league, literally only the league, sod off the CL (which you can't, because the money is more important to your board than winning the league), sod the FA Cup, sod the league cup - you may be in with a shout providing you don't pick up any serious injuries. But you'd still have to get past the rags, with a much better squad, Chelsea with Mourinho, and us.

Depends of course what you mean by challenge, but I'd say with five games to go no one will have Arsenal down as league candidates.

If we can hit 80 points then I would consider us to have put up a reasonable challenge, we haven't managed that since 07/08.

 

[BlueHammer85]

I'd say Arsenal are in with a shout of winning the league. They must be up there in January and bring in another striker.

 

[dronefromsector7g]

They won't win the league but it wouldn't surprise me if they finish top 3, and within 10 points of the winners.

 

[FantasyIreland]

Just for comparison, your transfers from the January and Summer transfer windows in 2012 saw a £10.5m spend on agent fees for the following players:

Jack Rodwell (£12m), Scott Sinclair (£8m), Maicon (undisclosed), Matija Nastasic (undisclosed), Javi Garcia (£16m), David Pizarro (loan), Richard Wright (free)

Wow,if the above is factual I feel even sicker.Regarding that shambles,I honestly didn't think it could have been any worse,it seems it was.......

What the fuck were we thinking??

 

[AFC14]

Just for comparison, your transfers from the January and Summer transfer windows in 2012 saw a £10.5m spend on agent fees for the following players:

Jack Rodwell (£12m), Scott Sinclair (£8m), Maicon (undisclosed), Matija Nastasic (undisclosed), Javi Garcia (£16m), David Pizarro (loan), Richard Wright (free)

Wow,if the above is factual I feel even sicker.Regarding that shambles,I honestly didn't think it could have been any worse,it seems it was.......

What the fuck were we thinking??

They are the figures from the Premier League but I thought the percentage was too high so I did some more research. I missed an important point, agent fees are also paid for contract renewals. In that period Mancini, Silva and Kompany signed new long term deals. This business makes the fee seem more reasonable although I'd still guess that a significant chunk of that £10.5m figure was paid to the agents involved with the signing of new players.

 

[NoahCity]

I think Arsenal can put up a good title challenge providing key players stay fit. They have arguably looked the most convincing of all teams over the start of the season alongside Pool.

 

[mcmanus]

Just for comparison, your transfers from the January and Summer transfer windows in 2012 saw a £10.5m spend on agent fees for the following players:

Jack Rodwell (£12m), Scott Sinclair (£8m), Maicon (undisclosed), Matija Nastasic (undisclosed), Javi Garcia (£16m), David Pizarro (loan), Richard Wright (free)

Wow,if the above is factual I feel even sicker.Regarding that shambles,I honestly didn't think it could have been any worse,it seems it was.......

What the fuck were we thinking??

They are the figures from the Premier League but I thought the percentage was too high so I did some more research. I missed an important point, agent fees are also paid for contract renewals. In that period Mancini, Silva and Kompany signed new long term deals. This business makes the fee seem more reasonable although I'd still guess that a significant chunk of that £10.5m figure was paid to the agents involved with the signing of new players.

When I'm bored I look at porn.

 

[bleed.blue]

Yesterday's result doesn't tell us much though. Dortmund and Napoli are the stronger teams in the group and Marseille will be arsenal's easiest game.

nice to see Ramsey getting it back. This weekend he travels to stoke city to face Shawcross.

 

[JoeMercer'sWay]

Yesterday's result doesn't tell us much though. Dortmund and Napoli are the stronger teams in the group and Marseille will be arsenal's easiest game.

nice to see Ramsey getting it back. This weekend he travels to stoke city to face Shawcross.

I know stoke have a rep but I genuinely don't believe shawcross meant that one, he was pretty distraught walking off. Decent defender, doesn't get a lot of credit because of who he plays for.

 

[leighton]

I think the way they finished last season and there start this season and the players they added they are a lot stronger. Flamimi and Ozil are strong at what they do and Arsenal needed Flamimi big time. A striker is a must for them in the summer but Giroud has started well and Walcott and Ramsey are doing great at the moment too. They are going to be there or abouts and Wenger I think isnt too far away from a title attack maybe this season they could win a cup.

 

[jlc09]

Yesterday's result doesn't tell us much though. Dortmund and Napoli are the stronger teams in the group and Marseille will be arsenal's easiest game.

nice to see Ramsey getting it back. This weekend he travels to stoke city to face Shawcross.

It was an important win. With 2 home games to come, we cn take hold of the group.

I personally think all this group of death stuff is a load of tosh. We'll get out of it but will fall to someone like Barca or Bayern as per usual.

 

[M18CTID]

Yesterday's result doesn't tell us much though. Dortmund and Napoli are the stronger teams in the group and Marseille will be arsenal's easiest game.

nice to see Ramsey getting it back. This weekend he travels to stoke city to face Shawcross.

It was an important win. With 2 home games to come, we cn take hold of the group.

I personally think all this group of death stuff is a load of tosh. We'll get out of it but will fall to someone like Barca or Bayern as per usual.

It's a very tough group to be fair - pretty much on a par with ours last year.

Great result that last night which should give you a good chance of progressing.

 

[more lazy than useless]

Can anybody explain to me what is happening with Arsenal's finances? I thought they had paid off the new stadium, had sold almost all the property and had a huge 'war chest' to spend. Now they announce they only made a few million last financial year, and even then it was only because they sold RvP and ..... forgotten who!

Didn't they re-negotiate some deals (kit?), so maybe they have some new income just kicking in, but if they're still cash strapped it would explain a few things. Are they are still trying to mislead their fans about their financial situation's impact on the club?

 

[Armaan]

Yesterday's result doesn't tell us much though. Dortmund and Napoli are the stronger teams in the group and Marseille will be arsenal's easiest game.

nice to see Ramsey getting it back. This weekend he travels to stoke city to face Shawcross.

It was an important win. With 2 home games to come, we cn take hold of the group.

I personally think all this group of death stuff is a load of tosh. We'll get out of it but will fall to someone like Barca or Bayern as per usual.

Your probably in for a bit of a suprise then mate, Napoli and Dortmund are not to be underestimated. They both have good enough teams to beat you both home and away, I genuinely can't wait to see them games so intriguing.

 

[bleed.blue]

Can anybody explain to me what is happening with Arsenal's finances? I thought they had paid off the new stadium, had sold almost all the property and had a huge 'war chest' to spend. Now they announce they only made a few million last financial year, and even then it was only because they sold RvP and ..... forgotten who!

Didn't they re-negotiate some deals (kit?), so maybe they have some new income just kicking in, but if they're still cash strapped it would explain a few things. Are they are still trying to mislead their fans about their financial situation's impact on the club?

the war chest that they were referring to was cash at hand which is still huge (around 150 million in the accounts published yesterday). It is different from profit/loss.

 

[more lazy than useless]

Can anybody explain to me what is happening with Arsenal's finances? I thought they had paid off the new stadium, had sold almost all the property and had a huge 'war chest' to spend. Now they announce they only made a few million last financial year, and even then it was only because they sold RvP and ..... forgotten who!

Didn't they re-negotiate some deals (kit?), so maybe they have some new income just kicking in, but if they're still cash strapped it would explain a few things. Are they are still trying to mislead their fans about their financial situation's impact on the club?

the war chest that they were referring to was cash at hand which is still huge (around 150 million in the accounts published yesterday). It is different from profit/loss.

OK, thanks. Not sure I get it though - surely they would have had to have made the money (ie profit) to have it in cash? They suposedly had some cash last year but not that much so where did it come from? Can't say I'm going to loose sleep over it, but thought it odd! I'm sure it'll all come out in the wash at some point.