Arsenal Thread 2013/14

[JoeMercer'sWay]

I disagree that we don,t have the squad to win the league. we got now one of best squads in europe and i think can win both the league and the champions league if we hit top form .

I think their not much between us, you and chelsea. But all three of us can win the league. we played like ourselves two good teams and won and are good enough to beat anyone we play in europe as we showed last season when we beat bayern munich.

You have an excellent squad but think you lack a top striker and another centre back, also think Ozil is irreplaceable we have Nasri and Jovetic if silva get injured

Look i think city have a strong squard though i think both us and you lack quality back up at the back. I think my only worry would be if mertersacker of koschney get injured though with tv to come in if they do and can play sagan at the back. Don,t think we need another top striker. we already got giroud, walcott and pod who all will score loads this season.

I think you have a strong midfield and strikers but lack cover when kompany injured. Amazed he keeps lescott on the bench so often when he was so good for you during your title winning season.

We both of the same level though i think we have the better manager.

You're not at the same level as us, you've had a good start, that's it. It's almost dipper like in its unbelievable optimism.

You have to play Dortmund twice and could easily lose both games, whilst Napoli have 2 against Marseille. If you did lose both that leaves your group looking like:

1) Napoli 9
2) Dortmund 9
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3) Arsenal 6
4) Marseille 0

Even if you draw with Dortmund it would put you both on 7, as I think Dortmund are favourites for their home tie. That leaves you beating Marseille and Napoli in Dortmund, which could go any way, but let's assume Dortmund win.

1) Dortmund 12, 2) Arsenal 9, 3) Napoli 9, 4) Marseille 0.

If you take a point from the Dortmund games, that leaves it as:

1) Dortmund 10, 2) Arsenal 10, 3) Napoli 9, 4) Marseille 0.

And it still comes down to the Napoli game, away, which we lost 2 years ago and you could easily lose.

Even if you got a win v Dortmund in one of the games and went into the Napoli game with 12, it still doesn't guarantee you going through if you have a bad night. There is a scenario in your group where 12 points misses out. You and Dortmund share the spoils (1 win each), Napoli do the double over Marseille =

1) Arsenal 9, 2) Napoli 9, 3) Dortmund 6, 4) Marseille 0.

Dortmund beat Napoli and you beat Marseille.

1) Arsenal 12, 2) Dortmund 9, 3) Napoli 9, 4) Marseille 0.

Dortmund beat Marseille and Napoli beat you by 2 goals or better.

1) Dortmund 12, 2) Napoli 12, 3) Arsenal 12, 4) Marseille 0.

Winning CL? You still have to get a result against Dortmund and Marseille and maybe even a result in Naples regardless.

 

[hilts]

ozil,wilshire,ramsey,carzola,arteta,walcott,chamberlain,flamini,rosicky is a hell of a midfield, giroud is an excellent player

They should be a major threat this year, injuries to giroud and in defence would be their weakness

 

[gooner2]

You have an excellent squad but think you lack a top striker and another centre back, also think Ozil is irreplaceable we have Nasri and Jovetic if silva get injured

Look i think city have a strong squard though i think both us and you lack quality back up at the back. I think my only worry would be if mertersacker of koschney get injured though with tv to come in if they do and can play sagan at the back. Don,t think we need another top striker. we already got giroud, walcott and pod who all will score loads this season.

I think you have a strong midfield and strikers but lack cover when kompany injured. Amazed he keeps lescott on the bench so often when he was so good for you during your title winning season.

We both of the same level though i think we have the better manager.

You're not at the same level as us, you've had a good start, that's it. It's almost dipper like in its unbelievable optimism.

You have to play Dortmund twice and could easily lose both games, whilst Napoli have 2 against Marseille. If you did lose both that leaves your group looking like:

1) Napoli 9
2) Dortmund 9
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3) Arsenal 6
4) Marseille 0

Even if you draw with Dortmund it would put you both on 7, as I think Dortmund are favourites for their home tie. That leaves you beating Marseille and Napoli in Dortmund, which could go any way, but let's assume Dortmund win.

1) Dortmund 12, 2) Arsenal 9, 3) Napoli 9, 4) Marseille 0.

If you take a point from the Dortmund games, that leaves it as:

1) Dortmund 10, 2) Arsenal 10, 3) Napoli 9, 4) Marseille 0.

And it still comes down to the Napoli game, away, which we lost 2 years ago and you could easily lose.

Even if you got a win v Dortmund in one of the games and went into the Napoli game with 12, it still doesn't guarantee you going through if you have a bad night. There is a scenario in your group where 12 points misses out. You and Dortmund share the spoils (1 win each), Napoli do the double over Marseille =

1) Arsenal 9, 2) Napoli 9, 3) Dortmund 6, 4) Marseille 0.

Dortmund beat Napoli and you beat Marseille.

1) Arsenal 12, 2) Dortmund 9, 3) Napoli 9, 4) Marseille 0.

Dortmund beat Marseille and Napoli beat you by 2 goals or better.

1) Dortmund 12, 2) Napoli 12, 3) Arsenal 12, 4) Marseille 0.

Winning CL? You still have to get a result against Dortmund and Marseille and maybe even a result in Naples regardless.

Mate i am postive because we have the best squad we had in nine years and our top of the league and champions league. I know its a long way to go and we can still win nothing but with the squad we have, i have every right to feel so confident.

 

[hilts]

Look i think city have a strong squard though i think both us and you lack quality back up at the back. I think my only worry would be if mertersacker of koschney get injured though with tv to come in if they do and can play sagan at the back. Don,t think we need another top striker. we already got giroud, walcott and pod who all will score loads this season.

I think you have a strong midfield and strikers but lack cover when kompany injured. Amazed he keeps lescott on the bench so often when he was so good for you during your title winning season.

We both of the same level though i think we have the better manager.

You're not at the same level as us, you've had a good start, that's it. It's almost dipper like in its unbelievable optimism.

You have to play Dortmund twice and could easily lose both games, whilst Napoli have 2 against Marseille. If you did lose both that leaves your group looking like:

1) Napoli 9
2) Dortmund 9
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3) Arsenal 6
4) Marseille 0

Even if you draw with Dortmund it would put you both on 7, as I think Dortmund are favourites for their home tie. That leaves you beating Marseille and Napoli in Dortmund, which could go any way, but let's assume Dortmund win.

1) Dortmund 12, 2) Arsenal 9, 3) Napoli 9, 4) Marseille 0.

If you take a point from the Dortmund games, that leaves it as:

1) Dortmund 10, 2) Arsenal 10, 3) Napoli 9, 4) Marseille 0.

And it still comes down to the Napoli game, away, which we lost 2 years ago and you could easily lose.

Even if you got a win v Dortmund in one of the games and went into the Napoli game with 12, it still doesn't guarantee you going through if you have a bad night. There is a scenario in your group where 12 points misses out. You and Dortmund share the spoils (1 win each), Napoli do the double over Marseille =

1) Arsenal 9, 2) Napoli 9, 3) Dortmund 6, 4) Marseille 0.

Dortmund beat Napoli and you beat Marseille.

1) Arsenal 12, 2) Dortmund 9, 3) Napoli 9, 4) Marseille 0.

Dortmund beat Marseille and Napoli beat you by 2 goals or better.

1) Dortmund 12, 2) Napoli 12, 3) Arsenal 12, 4) Marseille 0.

Winning CL? You still have to get a result against Dortmund and Marseille and maybe even a result in Naples regardless.

Mate i am postive because we have the best squad we had in nine years and our top of the league and champions league. I know its a long way to go and we can still win nothing but with the squad we have, i have every right to feel so confident.

Wouldn't be too confident in europe fella, english teams have a lot of ground to make up, you certainly have a good chance in the league, i agree at this stage arsenal city and chelsea look the best teams

 

[gooner2]

You're not at the same level as us, you've had a good start, that's it. It's almost dipper like in its unbelievable optimism.

You have to play Dortmund twice and could easily lose both games, whilst Napoli have 2 against Marseille. If you did lose both that leaves your group looking like:

1) Napoli 9
2) Dortmund 9
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3) Arsenal 6
4) Marseille 0

Even if you draw with Dortmund it would put you both on 7, as I think Dortmund are favourites for their home tie. That leaves you beating Marseille and Napoli in Dortmund, which could go any way, but let's assume Dortmund win.

1) Dortmund 12, 2) Arsenal 9, 3) Napoli 9, 4) Marseille 0.

If you take a point from the Dortmund games, that leaves it as:

1) Dortmund 10, 2) Arsenal 10, 3) Napoli 9, 4) Marseille 0.

And it still comes down to the Napoli game, away, which we lost 2 years ago and you could easily lose.

Even if you got a win v Dortmund in one of the games and went into the Napoli game with 12, it still doesn't guarantee you going through if you have a bad night. There is a scenario in your group where 12 points misses out. You and Dortmund share the spoils (1 win each), Napoli do the double over Marseille =

1) Arsenal 9, 2) Napoli 9, 3) Dortmund 6, 4) Marseille 0.

Dortmund beat Napoli and you beat Marseille.

1) Arsenal 12, 2) Dortmund 9, 3) Napoli 9, 4) Marseille 0.

Dortmund beat Marseille and Napoli beat you by 2 goals or better.

1) Dortmund 12, 2) Napoli 12, 3) Arsenal 12, 4) Marseille 0.

Winning CL? You still have to get a result against Dortmund and Marseille and maybe even a result in Naples regardless.

Mate i am postive because we have the best squad we had in nine years and our top of the league and champions league. I know its a long way to go and we can still win nothing but with the squad we have, i have every right to feel so confident.

Wouldn't be too confident in europe fella, english teams have a lot of ground to make up, you certainly have a good chance in the league, i agree at this stage arsenal city and chelsea look the best teams

You make a fair point. Bayern munich still the team to beat in europe and it be harder to win then league. I think us, you and chelsea all look the best teams and its going to be a great battle.

 

[Ronnie the Rep]

Interesting to come on BM and see threads with contributions from other teams supporters all good natured banter.

Try going on Arsenalmania and get chased by a pack of deluded tossers with more of a sense of entitlement than either the rags or the dippers

Bluemoon - best football forum in the prem - end of

 

[carlos tevez is a blue]

Look i think city have a strong squard though i think both us and you lack quality back up at the back. I think my only worry would be if mertersacker of koschney get injured though with tv to come in if they do and can play sagan at the back. Don,t think we need another top striker. we already got giroud, walcott and pod who all will score loads this season.

I think you have a strong midfield and strikers but lack cover when kompany injured. Amazed he keeps lescott on the bench so often when he was so good for you during your title winning season.

We both of the same level though i think we have the better manager.

You're not at the same level as us, you've had a good start, that's it. It's almost dipper like in its unbelievable optimism.

You have to play Dortmund twice and could easily lose both games, whilst Napoli have 2 against Marseille. If you did lose both that leaves your group looking like:

1) Napoli 9
2) Dortmund 9
----------------------------------------
3) Arsenal 6
4) Marseille 0

Even if you draw with Dortmund it would put you both on 7, as I think Dortmund are favourites for their home tie. That leaves you beating Marseille and Napoli in Dortmund, which could go any way, but let's assume Dortmund win.

1) Dortmund 12, 2) Arsenal 9, 3) Napoli 9, 4) Marseille 0.

If you take a point from the Dortmund games, that leaves it as:

1) Dortmund 10, 2) Arsenal 10, 3) Napoli 9, 4) Marseille 0.

And it still comes down to the Napoli game, away, which we lost 2 years ago and you could easily lose.

Even if you got a win v Dortmund in one of the games and went into the Napoli game with 12, it still doesn't guarantee you going through if you have a bad night. There is a scenario in your group where 12 points misses out. You and Dortmund share the spoils (1 win each), Napoli do the double over Marseille =

1) Arsenal 9, 2) Napoli 9, 3) Dortmund 6, 4) Marseille 0.

Dortmund beat Napoli and you beat Marseille.

1) Arsenal 12, 2) Dortmund 9, 3) Napoli 9, 4) Marseille 0.

Dortmund beat Marseille and Napoli beat you by 2 goals or better.

1) Dortmund 12, 2) Napoli 12, 3) Arsenal 12, 4) Marseille 0.

Winning CL? You still have to get a result against Dortmund and Marseille and maybe even a result in Naples regardless.

Mate i am postive because we have the best squad we had in nine years and our top of the league and champions league. I know its a long way to go and we can still win nothing but with the squad we have, i have every right to feel so confident.

Better than the 2007 team of when you had Adebayor, Van Rapist, Fabregas and Hleb and Eduardo etc?

 

[supercrystal7]

We've heard for many seasons that Arsenal haven't had the squad to win the league but now they have started well and brought in one decent player they now have the squad to do it.

Haven't they released more players than they've brought in, so what's changed?

Ozil is a bit more than just one player, but it there younger players have also stepped up. The other teams in the Premiership also have new managers or new squads (Tottenham).

As for the CL, Bayern look so strong and have unbelievable depth. They have so many match winners that it is hard to see past them. The Arsenal vs Dortmund game will be telling. Arsenal on fantastic form and only really missing Walcott from their first team and that is arguable. Dortmund have not been great recently and are missing two of their best players.

 

[gooner2]

Interesting to come on BM and see threads with contributions from other teams supporters all good natured banter.

Try going on Arsenalmania and get chased by a pack of deluded tossers with more of a sense of entitlement than either the rags or the dippers

Bluemoon - best football forum in the prem - end of

I got to agree. I been on arsenal world and they have a go at me for being to postive when we win. Its amazing but its sadly too many haters on their.
Seems like your a nicer bunch on here despite us supporting different clubs. Fair play for being so welcoming.<br /><br />-- Sun Oct 20, 2013 5:26 pm --<br /><br />

You're not at the same level as us, you've had a good start, that's it. It's almost dipper like in its unbelievable optimism.

You have to play Dortmund twice and could easily lose both games, whilst Napoli have 2 against Marseille. If you did lose both that leaves your group looking like:

1) Napoli 9
2) Dortmund 9
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3) Arsenal 6
4) Marseille 0

Even if you draw with Dortmund it would put you both on 7, as I think Dortmund are favourites for their home tie. That leaves you beating Marseille and Napoli in Dortmund, which could go any way, but let's assume Dortmund win.

1) Dortmund 12, 2) Arsenal 9, 3) Napoli 9, 4) Marseille 0.

If you take a point from the Dortmund games, that leaves it as:

1) Dortmund 10, 2) Arsenal 10, 3) Napoli 9, 4) Marseille 0.

And it still comes down to the Napoli game, away, which we lost 2 years ago and you could easily lose.

Even if you got a win v Dortmund in one of the games and went into the Napoli game with 12, it still doesn't guarantee you going through if you have a bad night. There is a scenario in your group where 12 points misses out. You and Dortmund share the spoils (1 win each), Napoli do the double over Marseille =

1) Arsenal 9, 2) Napoli 9, 3) Dortmund 6, 4) Marseille 0.

Dortmund beat Napoli and you beat Marseille.

1) Arsenal 12, 2) Dortmund 9, 3) Napoli 9, 4) Marseille 0.

Dortmund beat Marseille and Napoli beat you by 2 goals or better.

1) Dortmund 12, 2) Napoli 12, 3) Arsenal 12, 4) Marseille 0.

Winning CL? You still have to get a result against Dortmund and Marseille and maybe even a result in Naples regardless.

Mate i am postive because we have the best squad we had in nine years and our top of the league and champions league. I know its a long way to go and we can still win nothing but with the squad we have, i have every right to feel so confident.

Better than the 2007 team of when you had Adebayor, Van Rapist, Fabregas and Hleb and Eduardo etc?

Yep because we have far more depth and better back four. Our challenge went away in march that year as we did not have the same depth when a few got injured. We also have better leaders at the club. Their no bad apples like William gallis for example acting like a child when we don,t win. as he did when we draw 2-2 at brum.

This is best squad we had since 2005 by a country mile.

 

[afc16]

Yep it will be us Chelsea and arsenal who will win the league this season but like is Arsenal haven't played anyone decent yet

Don,t agree we not played anyone decent. We beaten both spurs and nappoli at home who are both top teams. So hardly can say we not played anyone decent.

fancy us to beat dortmund and liverpool at home but united and dortmund away will be tough.

Spurs are not a top 4 side and Napoli are not as good as they used to be... When you beat a top team away that's when we will see how good your team is..

8 games in is nothing

this is not like 5-10 years ago where the lower teams are nothing,

today the premier league is strong apart from couple of teams.

its a cliche but any team can beat you in the league.

few years ago utd record against top 4 was shocking but they beat all the smaller teams and won title.

this season man utd dropped points against southampton and west brom at home.

city have dropped points against the smaller teams, so have chelsea and so have we.

the bottom line is whether you beat utd or west brom, its still 3 points.

i'd say in the premier league now 3 points against smaller teams is just as important as against bigger teams.

 

[afc16]

Are you for real? Bloody Arsenal spending their own money they've generated.

Arsenal got to the stage where they're at through sound external investment in the shape of Danny Fiszman who injected £50m in the nineties. We're doing the same, it just costs a lot more to do it these days. However, the day isn't far away when we'll be self-sufficient and spending our own money too. Apparently, we're already in the top five revenue for a football club, which means we've displaced Arsenal and Chelsea in generating revenue. Sad day for them.

first figure is value, 2nd is turnover in $

this is as of april 2013

1 Real Madrid 3,300 650
2 Manchester United 3,165 502
3 Barcelona 2,600 613
4 Arsenal 1,326 368
5 Bayern Munich 1,309 468
6 Milan 945 326
7 Chelsea 901 409
8 Juventus 694 248
9 Manchester City 689 362
10 Liverpool 651 296

we are currently worth double what your worth.

our turnover is higher although only slightly. thats for april 2013.

unless you guys got some major money coming in for april 2014, then expect to be way behind us. our turnover due to the new deals already signed and agreed should be closer to around £400m, at the moment its about £300m. city currently is just under £300m.

so your wrong on both counts. you haven't currently displaced us and unless something disastrous happens your unlikely to in the near future.<br /><br />-- Sun Oct 20, 2013 7:52 pm --<br /><br />

Arsenal got to the stage where they're at through sound external investment in the shape of Danny Fiszman who injected £50m in the nineties. We're doing the same, it just costs a lot more to do it these days. However, the day isn't far away when we'll be self-sufficient and spending our own money too. Apparently, we're already in the top five revenue for a football club, which means we've displaced Arsenal and Chelsea in generating revenue. Sad day for them.

. I've talked to numerous people about this 50m story and nobody can say for certain that it's true.

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Quality. You slag off one of your finest on the assumption that he's a know nowt gobshite and then you have the front to say you or anyone else you've asked knows if it has any validity at all.
I'd suggest to you that Adams has more idea of what went on in the inner sanctum of Highbury than you or your cronies ever will.

he might have been one of our finest and arsenal thru and thru but the poster is right, adams hasn't half talked a load of shite in the last few years almost to the point where its been embarrasing. probably as a gooner we've read it and you haven't so you may not know.

 

[afc16]

You have an excellent squad but think you lack a top striker and another centre back, also think Ozil is irreplaceable we have Nasri and Jovetic if silva get injured

Look i think city have a strong squard though i think both us and you lack quality back up at the back. I think my only worry would be if mertersacker of koschney get injured though with tv to come in if they do and can play sagan at the back. Don,t think we need another top striker. we already got giroud, walcott and pod who all will score loads this season.

I think you have a strong midfield and strikers but lack cover when kompany injured. Amazed he keeps lescott on the bench so often when he was so good for you during your title winning season.

We both of the same level though i think we have the better manager.

You're not at the same level as us, you've had a good start, that's it. It's almost dipper like in its unbelievable optimism.

You have to play Dortmund twice and could easily lose both games, whilst Napoli have 2 against Marseille. If you did lose both that leaves your group looking like:

1) Napoli 9
2) Dortmund 9
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3) Arsenal 6
4) Marseille 0

Even if you draw with Dortmund it would put you both on 7, as I think Dortmund are favourites for their home tie. That leaves you beating Marseille and Napoli in Dortmund, which could go any way, but let's assume Dortmund win.

1) Dortmund 12, 2) Arsenal 9, 3) Napoli 9, 4) Marseille 0.

If you take a point from the Dortmund games, that leaves it as:

1) Dortmund 10, 2) Arsenal 10, 3) Napoli 9, 4) Marseille 0.

And it still comes down to the Napoli game, away, which we lost 2 years ago and you could easily lose.

Even if you got a win v Dortmund in one of the games and went into the Napoli game with 12, it still doesn't guarantee you going through if you have a bad night. There is a scenario in your group where 12 points misses out. You and Dortmund share the spoils (1 win each), Napoli do the double over Marseille =

1) Arsenal 9, 2) Napoli 9, 3) Dortmund 6, 4) Marseille 0.

Dortmund beat Napoli and you beat Marseille.

1) Arsenal 12, 2) Dortmund 9, 3) Napoli 9, 4) Marseille 0.

Dortmund beat Marseille and Napoli beat you by 2 goals or better.

1) Dortmund 12, 2) Napoli 12, 3) Arsenal 12, 4) Marseille 0.

Winning CL? You still have to get a result against Dortmund and Marseille and maybe even a result in Naples regardless.

all you've done there is just go through the possible permutations.

nobody knows that will happen yet.

we have amongst the best home records in europe. i think only bayern and utd have ever beaten us at the emirates in europe. we've played barca ac milan borrisua dortmund napoli a lot of strong teams over the years.

so we have a good chance, as we've still got to play dortmund and marselle at home.

also i would disagree about not being on your level, how far back do you want to go? we could go back to the beginning of the year which is a long time and a lot of games and i think we'd be 2nd behind utd in points total.

our midfield is better then yours, defence about even, your forward options are better.

i wouldn't say your a level above us, what we might lack slightly in squad depth in terms of strikers, we make up for in team play due to our continuity over city.<br /><br />-- Sun Oct 20, 2013 8:02 pm --<br /><br />

You're not at the same level as us, you've had a good start, that's it. It's almost dipper like in its unbelievable optimism.

You have to play Dortmund twice and could easily lose both games, whilst Napoli have 2 against Marseille. If you did lose both that leaves your group looking like:

1) Napoli 9
2) Dortmund 9
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3) Arsenal 6
4) Marseille 0

Even if you draw with Dortmund it would put you both on 7, as I think Dortmund are favourites for their home tie. That leaves you beating Marseille and Napoli in Dortmund, which could go any way, but let's assume Dortmund win.

1) Dortmund 12, 2) Arsenal 9, 3) Napoli 9, 4) Marseille 0.

If you take a point from the Dortmund games, that leaves it as:

1) Dortmund 10, 2) Arsenal 10, 3) Napoli 9, 4) Marseille 0.

And it still comes down to the Napoli game, away, which we lost 2 years ago and you could easily lose.

Even if you got a win v Dortmund in one of the games and went into the Napoli game with 12, it still doesn't guarantee you going through if you have a bad night. There is a scenario in your group where 12 points misses out. You and Dortmund share the spoils (1 win each), Napoli do the double over Marseille =

1) Arsenal 9, 2) Napoli 9, 3) Dortmund 6, 4) Marseille 0.

Dortmund beat Napoli and you beat Marseille.

1) Arsenal 12, 2) Dortmund 9, 3) Napoli 9, 4) Marseille 0.

Dortmund beat Marseille and Napoli beat you by 2 goals or better.

1) Dortmund 12, 2) Napoli 12, 3) Arsenal 12, 4) Marseille 0.

Winning CL? You still have to get a result against Dortmund and Marseille and maybe even a result in Naples regardless.

Mate i am postive because we have the best squad we had in nine years and our top of the league and champions league. I know its a long way to go and we can still win nothing but with the squad we have, i have every right to feel so confident.

Better than the 2007 team of when you had Adebayor, Van Rapist, Fabregas and Hleb and Eduardo etc?

interesting as i mentioned this in another post today.

i think first 11 about even. that 07/08 team was great. should have won title if not for disturbing eduardo injury that rattled the whole team (don't blame them).

difference between then and now is squad depth which we didn't have then.

we had players like almunia, bendner, denilson and eboue in and around the first team. now we don't have any weak or sub par players like that apart from bendner, as we got rid of them all in the summer.

 

[Zin 'messiah' Zimmer]

Look i think city have a strong squard though i think both us and you lack quality back up at the back. I think my only worry would be if mertersacker of koschney get injured though with tv to come in if they do and can play sagan at the back. Don,t think we need another top striker. we already got giroud, walcott and pod who all will score loads this season.

I think you have a strong midfield and strikers but lack cover when kompany injured. Amazed he keeps lescott on the bench so often when he was so good for you during your title winning season.

We both of the same level though i think we have the better manager.

You're not at the same level as us, you've had a good start, that's it. It's almost dipper like in its unbelievable optimism.

You have to play Dortmund twice and could easily lose both games, whilst Napoli have 2 against Marseille. If you did lose both that leaves your group looking like:

1) Napoli 9
2) Dortmund 9
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3) Arsenal 6
4) Marseille 0

Even if you draw with Dortmund it would put you both on 7, as I think Dortmund are favourites for their home tie. That leaves you beating Marseille and Napoli in Dortmund, which could go any way, but let's assume Dortmund win.

1) Dortmund 12, 2) Arsenal 9, 3) Napoli 9, 4) Marseille 0.

If you take a point from the Dortmund games, that leaves it as:

1) Dortmund 10, 2) Arsenal 10, 3) Napoli 9, 4) Marseille 0.

And it still comes down to the Napoli game, away, which we lost 2 years ago and you could easily lose.

Even if you got a win v Dortmund in one of the games and went into the Napoli game with 12, it still doesn't guarantee you going through if you have a bad night. There is a scenario in your group where 12 points misses out. You and Dortmund share the spoils (1 win each), Napoli do the double over Marseille =

1) Arsenal 9, 2) Napoli 9, 3) Dortmund 6, 4) Marseille 0.

Dortmund beat Napoli and you beat Marseille.

1) Arsenal 12, 2) Dortmund 9, 3) Napoli 9, 4) Marseille 0.

Dortmund beat Marseille and Napoli beat you by 2 goals or better.

1) Dortmund 12, 2) Napoli 12, 3) Arsenal 12, 4) Marseille 0.

Winning CL? You still have to get a result against Dortmund and Marseille and maybe even a result in Naples regardless.

all you've done there is just go through the possible permutations.

nobody knows that will happen yet.

we have amongst the best home records in europe. i think only bayern and utd have ever beaten us at the emirates in europe. we've played barca ac milan borrisua dortmund napoli a lot of strong teams over the years.

so we have a good chance, as we've still got to play dortmund and marselle at home.

also i would disagree about not being on your level, how far back do you want to go? we could go back to the beginning of the year which is a long time and a lot of games and i think we'd be 2nd behind utd in points total.

our midfield is better then yours, defence about even, your forward options are better.

i wouldn't say your a level above us, what we might lack slightly in squad depth in terms of strikers, we make up for in team play due to our continuity over city.

-- Sun Oct 20, 2013 8:02 pm --

Mate i am postive because we have the best squad we had in nine years and our top of the league and champions league. I know its a long way to go and we can still win nothing but with the squad we have, i have every right to feel so confident.

Better than the 2007 team of when you had Adebayor, Van Rapist, Fabregas and Hleb and Eduardo etc?

interesting as i mentioned this in another post today.

i think first 11 about even. that 07/08 team was great. should have won title if not for disturbing eduardo injury that rattled the whole team (don't blame them).

difference between then and now is squad depth which we didn't have then.

we had players like almunia, bendner, denilson and eboue in and around the first team. now we don't have any weak or sub par players like that apart from bendner, as we got rid of them all in the summer.

A better midfield????
Not much difference between defence???

This ladies and gentlemen is exactly why the Gooooooners are comedy gold, imbecile is a little harsh but the cap does fit I'm afraid

Hart or Szczesny??
Zab or sagna?
Kompany or mertesacker?
Nasty or vermalaen????
Clichy or Gibbs???

Not one of your defenders would get in our team over what we have

Midfield

Yaya or Wiltshire?
Silva or cazorla?
Fern or Ramsey?
Nasri or ozil??

One out 4 ain't bad!!!

Oh and we'll overtake you in the revenue streams for apr 2014, projections are already in if you'd of bothered to look!

 

[waspish]

Don,t agree we not played anyone decent. We beaten both spurs and nappoli at home who are both top teams. So hardly can say we not played anyone decent.

fancy us to beat dortmund and liverpool at home but united and dortmund away will be tough.

Spurs are not a top 4 side and Napoli are not as good as they used to be... When you beat a top team away that's when we will see how good your team is..

8 games in is nothing

this is not like 5-10 years ago where the lower teams are nothing,

today the premier league is strong apart from couple of teams.

its a cliche but any team can beat you in the league.

few years ago utd record against top 4 was shocking but they beat all the smaller teams and won title.

this season man utd dropped points against southampton and west brom at home.

city have dropped points against the smaller teams, so have chelsea and so have we.

the bottom line is whether you beat utd or west brom, its still 3 points.

i'd say in the premier league now 3 points against smaller teams is just as important as against bigger teams.

Yeah fair point but I feel if we take at least 4 points of the contenders for the league we have a better chance of winning the league

 

[gaving673]

Feeling really nervous for the Liverpool vs Arsenal game now, especially when you compare our lethargic midfield of gerrard and Lucas to yours fuck

 

[JoeMercer'sWay]

gooners are so fair weather, they've all suddenly crawled out of the woodwork now they're doing well, couldn't see them for the hills last season.

 

[gooner2]

You're not at the same level as us, you've had a good start, that's it. It's almost dipper like in its unbelievable optimism.

You have to play Dortmund twice and could easily lose both games, whilst Napoli have 2 against Marseille. If you did lose both that leaves your group looking like:

1) Napoli 9
2) Dortmund 9
----------------------------------------
3) Arsenal 6
4) Marseille 0

Even if you draw with Dortmund it would put you both on 7, as I think Dortmund are favourites for their home tie. That leaves you beating Marseille and Napoli in Dortmund, which could go any way, but let's assume Dortmund win.

1) Dortmund 12, 2) Arsenal 9, 3) Napoli 9, 4) Marseille 0.

If you take a point from the Dortmund games, that leaves it as:

1) Dortmund 10, 2) Arsenal 10, 3) Napoli 9, 4) Marseille 0.

And it still comes down to the Napoli game, away, which we lost 2 years ago and you could easily lose.

Even if you got a win v Dortmund in one of the games and went into the Napoli game with 12, it still doesn't guarantee you going through if you have a bad night. There is a scenario in your group where 12 points misses out. You and Dortmund share the spoils (1 win each), Napoli do the double over Marseille =

1) Arsenal 9, 2) Napoli 9, 3) Dortmund 6, 4) Marseille 0.

Dortmund beat Napoli and you beat Marseille.

1) Arsenal 12, 2) Dortmund 9, 3) Napoli 9, 4) Marseille 0.

Dortmund beat Marseille and Napoli beat you by 2 goals or better.

1) Dortmund 12, 2) Napoli 12, 3) Arsenal 12, 4) Marseille 0.

Winning CL? You still have to get a result against Dortmund and Marseille and maybe even a result in Naples regardless.

all you've done there is just go through the possible permutations.

nobody knows that will happen yet.

we have amongst the best home records in europe. i think only bayern and utd have ever beaten us at the emirates in europe. we've played barca ac milan borrisua dortmund napoli a lot of strong teams over the years.

so we have a good chance, as we've still got to play dortmund and marselle at home.

also i would disagree about not being on your level, how far back do you want to go? we could go back to the beginning of the year which is a long time and a lot of games and i think we'd be 2nd behind utd in points total.

our midfield is better then yours, defence about even, your forward options are better.

i wouldn't say your a level above us, what we might lack slightly in squad depth in terms of strikers, we make up for in team play due to our continuity over city.

-- Sun Oct 20, 2013 8:02 pm --

Better than the 2007 team of when you had Adebayor, Van Rapist, Fabregas and Hleb and Eduardo etc?

interesting as i mentioned this in another post today.

i think first 11 about even. that 07/08 team was great. should have won title if not for disturbing eduardo injury that rattled the whole team (don't blame them).

difference between then and now is squad depth which we didn't have then.

we had players like almunia, bendner, denilson and eboue in and around the first team. now we don't have any weak or sub par players like that apart from bendner, as we got rid of them all in the summer.

A better midfield????
Not much difference between defence???

This ladies and gentlemen is exactly why the Gooooooners are comedy gold, imbecile is a little harsh but the cap does fit I'm afraid

Hart or Szczesny??
Zab or sagna?
Kompany or mertesacker?
Nasty or vermalaen????
Clichy or Gibbs???

Not one of your defenders would get in our team over what we have

Midfield

Yaya or Wiltshire?
Silva or cazorla?
Fern or Ramsey?
Nasri or ozil??

One out 4 ain't bad!!!

Oh and we'll overtake you in the revenue streams for apr 2014, projections are already in if you'd of bothered to look!

I think our midfield is as good as your. ramsey i argue is better then fern and wilshire as good as toure . I think though we have better defensive midfielders and better center back paring.

-- Sun Oct 20, 2013 8:15 pm --

Feeling really nervous for the Liverpool vs Arsenal game now, especially when you compare our lethargic midfield of gerrard and Lucas to yours fuck

I think you give us a game though with two strikers you have up front. it was 2-2 at the emirates last season, still think you be happy to take a point though. we have far better midfield then you do. But your two strikers give you a chance of giving us a game at least. Still fancy us to beat you 3-1.

-- Sun Oct 20, 2013 8:17 pm --

Look i think city have a strong squard though i think both us and you lack quality back up at the back. I think my only worry would be if mertersacker of koschney get injured though with tv to come in if they do and can play sagan at the back. Don,t think we need another top striker. we already got giroud, walcott and pod who all will score loads this season.

I think you have a strong midfield and strikers but lack cover when kompany injured. Amazed he keeps lescott on the bench so often when he was so good for you during your title winning season.

We both of the same level though i think we have the better manager.

You're not at the same level as us, you've had a good start, that's it. It's almost dipper like in its unbelievable optimism.

You have to play Dortmund twice and could easily lose both games, whilst Napoli have 2 against Marseille. If you did lose both that leaves your group looking like:

1) Napoli 9
2) Dortmund 9
----------------------------------------
3) Arsenal 6
4) Marseille 0

Even if you draw with Dortmund it would put you both on 7, as I think Dortmund are favourites for their home tie. That leaves you beating Marseille and Napoli in Dortmund, which could go any way, but let's assume Dortmund win.

1) Dortmund 12, 2) Arsenal 9, 3) Napoli 9, 4) Marseille 0.

If you take a point from the Dortmund games, that leaves it as:

1) Dortmund 10, 2) Arsenal 10, 3) Napoli 9, 4) Marseille 0.

And it still comes down to the Napoli game, away, which we lost 2 years ago and you could easily lose.

Even if you got a win v Dortmund in one of the games and went into the Napoli game with 12, it still doesn't guarantee you going through if you have a bad night. There is a scenario in your group where 12 points misses out. You and Dortmund share the spoils (1 win each), Napoli do the double over Marseille =

1) Arsenal 9, 2) Napoli 9, 3) Dortmund 6, 4) Marseille 0.

Dortmund beat Napoli and you beat Marseille.

1) Arsenal 12, 2) Dortmund 9, 3) Napoli 9, 4) Marseille 0.

Dortmund beat Marseille and Napoli beat you by 2 goals or better.

1) Dortmund 12, 2) Napoli 12, 3) Arsenal 12, 4) Marseille 0.

Winning CL? You still have to get a result against Dortmund and Marseille and maybe even a result in Naples regardless.

all you've done there is just go through the possible permutations.

nobody knows that will happen yet.

we have amongst the best home records in europe. i think only bayern and utd have ever beaten us at the emirates in europe. we've played barca ac milan borrisua dortmund napoli a lot of strong teams over the years.

so we have a good chance, as we've still got to play dortmund and marselle at home.

also i would disagree about not being on your level, how far back do you want to go? we could go back to the beginning of the year which is a long time and a lot of games and i think we'd be 2nd behind utd in points total.

our midfield is better then yours, defence about even, your forward options are better.

i wouldn't say your a level above us, what we might lack slightly in squad depth in terms of strikers, we make up for in team play due to our continuity over city.

-- Sun Oct 20, 2013 8:02 pm --

Mate i am postive because we have the best squad we had in nine years and our top of the league and champions league. I know its a long way to go and we can still win nothing but with the squad we have, i have every right to feel so confident.

Better than the 2007 team of when you had Adebayor, Van Rapist, Fabregas and Hleb and Eduardo etc?

interesting as i mentioned this in another post today.

i think first 11 about even. that 07/08 team was great. should have won title if not for disturbing eduardo injury that rattled the whole team (don't blame them).

difference between then and now is squad depth which we didn't have then.

we had players like almunia, bendner, denilson and eboue in and around the first team. now we don't have any weak or sub par players like that apart from bendner, as we got rid of them all in the summer.

Well said. we have far better squad then we had in 2007 and in my view we have the strongest squad in the league. once pod, theo and ox are back we have a amazing bench.<br /><br />-- Sun Oct 20, 2013 8:18 pm --<br /><br />

Don,t agree we not played anyone decent. We beaten both spurs and nappoli at home who are both top teams. So hardly can say we not played anyone decent.

fancy us to beat dortmund and liverpool at home but united and dortmund away will be tough.

Spurs are not a top 4 side and Napoli are not as good as they used to be... When you beat a top team away that's when we will see how good your team is..

8 games in is nothing

this is not like 5-10 years ago where the lower teams are nothing,

today the premier league is strong apart from couple of teams.

its a cliche but any team can beat you in the league.

few years ago utd record against top 4 was shocking but they beat all the smaller teams and won title.

this season man utd dropped points against southampton and west brom at home.

city have dropped points against the smaller teams, so have chelsea and so have we.

the bottom line is whether you beat utd or west brom, its still 3 points.

i'd say in the premier league now 3 points against smaller teams is just as important as against bigger teams.

Well said. you beat who you beat. as long as we get to mid 80s and above to win league these days then does not matter who we beat.

 

[gooner2]

gooners are so fair weather, they've all suddenly crawled out of the woodwork now they're doing well, couldn't see them for the hills last season.

I am not fair weather. Supported the team for 23 years. unlike other moaners that we sadly have supporting our club i have backed the team through good and not so amazing times. We been spolit as club as were winning machine till 2005. Fans forget we could have won champions league in 2006, league cup in 2007 and 2011 and were close to the title in 2008 and 2011. We have some proper plastics at the emirates. I am confident in this team then i have ever been. This is why i think we can win the league this season.

 

[DTKOAG]

Arsenal have there best chance in years to win the title this year.
I think they will spend big in Jan if needs be.
If they keep a fairly injury free squad then i fear them more than anyone.

 

[gooner2]

Arsenal have there best chance in years to win the title this year.
I think they will spend big in Jan if needs be.
If they keep a fairly injury free squad then i fear them more than anyone.

Thank you for being so nice. I respect city though as you have as good a attack as our team.

It is our best chance for nine years to win league. We have got more money to spend in jan on a extra defender and striker. We have kept on winning mostly despite having no pod or ox for most of the season so far and theo missing for a bit. This is scary sign for our rivals.

We got great chance. Just need to deal with pressure of a title run in from feb or march onwards This was our undoing when our title challenge faded away with too many draws in 2007 and 2008 season and 2010 and 2011 season. Good news is we have far better squad now.

Out of our rivals i fear you and chelsea the most .

-- Sun Oct 20, 2013 8:34 pm --

Arsenal have there best chance in years to win the title this year.
I think they will spend big in Jan if needs be.
If they keep a fairly injury free squad then i fear them more than anyone.

Thank you for being. I respect city though as you have as good a attack as we do. Its our best chance for nine years to win league. we got more money spend in jan on extra defender and striker. We kept on winning mostly despite having no pod or ox for most of the season so far and theo missing for a bit

We got great chance. Just need deal with pressure of a title run in around feb or march. This was our undoing when our title challenge faded away with too many draws in 2007 and 2008 season and 2010 and 2011 season. Good news is we have far better squad now.

Out of our rivals i fear you and chelsea the most .