Arsenal Thread 2013/14

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Barcon said:
Ramsey and wilshire better than Fernandinho and yaya Toure?
You must be fucking joking pal. Neither one would get into our starting 11.

WIlshire is a little bit better then fernandinho and i am not joking and so is ramsey. They are far better going forward then he is and more consistent.

To be fair i think ya toure is better then all three as a all round player.<br /><br />-- Sun Oct 20, 2013 9:12 pm --<br /><br />
Bilboblue said:
Wilshere as good as Yaya....

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!

I will admit toure is bit better at the moment. You can,t deny though Wilshire is a world class midfielder as the first goal he showed yesterday showed. It was harlem globetrotters stuff that.
 
gooner2 said:
Barcon said:
Ramsey and wilshire better than Fernandinho and yaya Toure?
You must be fucking joking pal. Neither one would get into our starting 11.

WIlshire is a little bit better then fernandinho and i am not joking and so is ramsey. They are far better going forward then he is and more consistent.

To be fair i think ya toure is better then all three as a all round player.

-- Sun Oct 20, 2013 9:12 pm --

Bilboblue said:
Wilshere as good as Yaya....

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!

I will admit toure is bit better at the moment. You can,t deny though Wilshire is a world class midfielder as the first goal he showed yesterday showed. It was harlem globetrotters stuff that.

YAYA is the best midfielder in the premier for me, Wiltshire going forward is slightly better than Fernandinho but what Fernandinho does Better than either Wiltshire/Ramsey is his tackling defensive work he doesn't dive in he nicks the ball of players, have to say though it was a great pass for Aguero's 1st goal yesterday... I'd inly have 2 players from Arsenal Ozil and Wiltshire..
 
waspish said:
gooner2 said:
Barcon said:
Ramsey and wilshire better than Fernandinho and yaya Toure?
You must be fucking joking pal. Neither one would get into our starting 11.

WIlshire is a little bit better then fernandinho and i am not joking and so is ramsey. They are far better going forward then he is and more consistent.

To be fair i think ya toure is better then all three as a all round player.

-- Sun Oct 20, 2013 9:12 pm --

Bilboblue said:
Wilshere as good as Yaya....

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!

I will admit toure is bit better at the moment. You can,t deny though Wilshire is a world class midfielder as the first goal he showed yesterday showed. It was harlem globetrotters stuff that.

YAYA is the best midfielder in the premier for me, Wiltshire going forward is slightly better than Fernandinho but what Fernandinho does Better than either Wiltshire/Ramsey is his tackling defensive work he doesn't dive in he nicks the ball of players, have to say though it was a great pass for Aguero's 1st goal yesterday... I'd inly have 2 players from Arsenal Ozil and Wiltshire..

You make some good points. I just disagree about tackling bit. Ramsey a fantastic tackler and was immense for us in chasing well of the ball last season. I am amazed you only have two. What about santi , or metersacker . I think yes just say we both have great teams that going to be going at the whole season. Nothing between us really.
 
gooner2 said:
Barcon said:
Ramsey and wilshire better than Fernandinho and yaya Toure?
You must be fucking joking pal. Neither one would get into our starting 11.

WIlshire is a little bit better then fernandinho and i am not joking and so is ramsey. They are far better going forward then he is and more consistent.

To be fair i think ya toure is better then all three as a all round player.

-- Sun Oct 20, 2013 9:12 pm --

Bilboblue said:
Wilshere as good as Yaya....

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!

I will admit toure is bit better at the moment. You can,t deny though Wilshire is a world class midfielder as the first goal he showed yesterday showed. It was harlem globetrotters stuff that.

Wilshire is an overhyped, English football player as far as I am concerned. I have seen nothing other than a cynical, dirty, cheating twat that gets away with murder because he is English. I wouldn't have him the current City team personally. Chamberlain and Ozil are good players.
Anyway, can I ask why you support Arsenal? Serious question, not trying to be a smart arse.
 
Barcon said:
gooner2 said:
Barcon said:
Ramsey and wilshire better than Fernandinho and yaya Toure?
You must be fucking joking pal. Neither one would get into our starting 11.

WIlshire is a little bit better then fernandinho and i am not joking and so is ramsey. They are far better going forward then he is and more consistent.

To be fair i think ya toure is better then all three as a all round player.

-- Sun Oct 20, 2013 9:12 pm --

Bilboblue said:
Wilshere as good as Yaya....

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!

I will admit toure is bit better at the moment. You can,t deny though Wilshire is a world class midfielder as the first goal he showed yesterday showed. It was harlem globetrotters stuff that.

Wilshire is an overhyped, English football player as far as I am concerned. I have seen nothing other than a cynical, dirty, cheating twat that gets away with murder because he is English. I wouldn't have him the current City team personally. Chamberlain and Ozil are good players.
Anyway, can I ask why you support Arsenal? Serious question, not trying to be a smart arse.

I think it bit harsh to say he is overhyped. He is a played of immense talent who has won pfa young player of the year in 2011 and as he showed yesterday a future world class player. His passing range is wonderful and his first touch is out of this world. I agree that ox and ozil are good players.

Of course you can ask why i support arsenal. I was taking to a game in 1990 between arsenal and Shefield United at highbury. We won 4-1.
I was seven years of age and i fell in love with a team called Arsenal Football club. 23 Years later and I still love the club the same way i did when i went to my first game.
It been a great adventure to say the least . Though it never been the same at the emirates compared to Highbury and the type of fans who go to the games now are far worser then when i first went.
 
gooner2 said:
waspish said:
gooner2 said:
WIlshire is a little bit better then fernandinho and i am not joking and so is ramsey. They are far better going forward then he is and more consistent.

To be fair i think ya toure is better then all three as a all round player.

-- Sun Oct 20, 2013 9:12 pm --



I will admit toure is bit better at the moment. You can,t deny though Wilshire is a world class midfielder as the first goal he showed yesterday showed. It was harlem globetrotters stuff that.

YAYA is the best midfielder in the premier for me, Wiltshire going forward is slightly better than Fernandinho but what Fernandinho does Better than either Wiltshire/Ramsey is his tackling defensive work he doesn't dive in he nicks the ball of players, have to say though it was a great pass for Aguero's 1st goal yesterday... I'd inly have 2 players from Arsenal Ozil and Wiltshire..

You make some good points. I just disagree about tackling bit. Ramsey a fantastic tackler and was immense for us in chasing well of the ball last season. I am amazed you only have two. What about santi , or metersacker . I think yes just say we both have great teams that going to be going at the whole season. Nothing between us really.

Take your word on Ramsey's tackling ability you watch him more than I do.. Also your Ramsey Wiltshire and Ozil midfield is probably bit more fluid than ours because the one thing YAYA hasn't got is he ability turn on a sixpence...
 
gooner2 said:
Barcon said:
gooner2 said:
WIlshire is a little bit better then fernandinho and i am not joking and so is ramsey. They are far better going forward then he is and more consistent.

To be fair i think ya toure is better then all three as a all round player.

-- Sun Oct 20, 2013 9:12 pm --



I will admit toure is bit better at the moment. You can,t deny though Wilshire is a world class midfielder as the first goal he showed yesterday showed. It was harlem globetrotters stuff that.

Wilshire is an overhyped, English football player as far as I am concerned. I have seen nothing other than a cynical, dirty, cheating twat that gets away with murder because he is English. I wouldn't have him the current City team personally. Chamberlain and Ozil are good players.
Anyway, can I ask why you support Arsenal? Serious question, not trying to be a smart arse.

I think it bit harsh to say he is overhyped. He is a played of immense talent who has won pfa young player of the year in 2011 and as he showed yesterday a future world class player. His passing range is wonderful and his first touch is out of this world. I agree that ox and ozil are good players.

Of course you can ask why i support arsenal. I was taking to a game in 1990 between arsenal and Shefield United at highbury. We won 4-1.
I was seven years of age and i fell in love with a team called Arsenal Football club. 23 Years later and I still love the club the same way i did when i went to my first game.
It been a great adventure to say the least . Though it never been the same at the emirates compared to Highbury and the type of fans who go to the games now are far worser then when i first went.

Fair enough mate. I know he's considered a good player by many (on here as well), I just very much dislike what I see from him. Maybe I don't see enough of him to rate him as world class player, but I don't at all. I only asked the other question because we seem to get a lot of people on here that latch onto teams for one reason or another. Fair minded supporters are always welcome by most on here. Just don't start with the graphs ;)
 
waspish said:
gooner2 said:
waspish said:
YAYA is the best midfielder in the premier for me, Wiltshire going forward is slightly better than Fernandinho but what Fernandinho does Better than either Wiltshire/Ramsey is his tackling defensive work he doesn't dive in he nicks the ball of players, have to say though it was a great pass for Aguero's 1st goal yesterday... I'd inly have 2 players from Arsenal Ozil and Wiltshire..

You make some good points. I just disagree about tackling bit. Ramsey a fantastic tackler and was immense for us in chasing well of the ball last season. I am amazed you only have two. What about santi , or metersacker . I think yes just say we both have great teams that going to be going at the whole season. Nothing between us really.

Take your word on Ramsey's tackling ability you watch him more than I do.. Also your Ramsey Wiltshire and Ozil midfield is probably bit more fluid than ours because the one thing YAYA hasn't got is he ability turn on a sixpence...

Ramsey has completed the most tackles per game of any player in the league this season.
 
waspish said:
gooner2 said:
waspish said:
YAYA is the best midfielder in the premier for me, Wiltshire going forward is slightly better than Fernandinho but what Fernandinho does Better than either Wiltshire/Ramsey is his tackling defensive work he doesn't dive in he nicks the ball of players, have to say though it was a great pass for Aguero's 1st goal yesterday... I'd inly have 2 players from Arsenal Ozil and Wiltshire..

You make some good points. I just disagree about tackling bit. Ramsey a fantastic tackler and was immense for us in chasing well of the ball last season. I am amazed you only have two. What about santi , or metersacker . I think yes just say we both have great teams that going to be going at the whole season. Nothing between us really.

Take your word on Ramsey's tackling ability you watch him more than I do.. Also your Ramsey Wiltshire and Ozil midfield is probably bit more fluid than ours because the one thing YAYA hasn't got is he ability turn on a sixpence...

Ramsey tackling ability was poor a year ago. But he is so much better at it this year and he far more confident when going forward.
We have a very fiuid midfield with wilshire, ozil and ramsey. Then we have likes of arteta doing the ugly defensive stuff. It what makes us so dangerous.
I think yaya is a awesome player when he wants to be. I think you are as fiuid as us when you at your best with the likes of nasri and siva moving forward. You shown that in your home games vs newcastle and man united. Only thing i say with city midfield is they do not do enough pressing of the ball . The Bayern game i felt you did not do enough to close down the spaces against them.
 
somebody asked for a gif of wilsheres goal earlier couldn't be bothered to go back and find who it was but here goes

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afc16 said:
somebody asked for a gif of wilsheres goal earlier couldn't be bothered to go back and find who it was but here goes

<a class="postlink" href="http://abload.de/img/arsenal-yrj6rfkydb.gif" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://abload.de/img/arsenal-yrj6rfkydb.gif</a>

What a goal from a wonderful player. Goal of the season.
 
gooner2 said:
waspish said:
gooner2 said:
You make some good points. I just disagree about tackling bit. Ramsey a fantastic tackler and was immense for us in chasing well of the ball last season. I am amazed you only have two. What about santi , or metersacker . I think yes just say we both have great teams that going to be going at the whole season. Nothing between us really.

Take your word on Ramsey's tackling ability you watch him more than I do.. Also your Ramsey Wiltshire and Ozil midfield is probably bit more fluid than ours because the one thing YAYA hasn't got is he ability turn on a sixpence...

Ramsey tackling ability was poor a year ago. But he is so much better at it this year and he far more confident when going forward.
We have a very fiuid midfield with wilshire, ozil and ramsey. Then we have likes of arteta doing the ugly defensive stuff. It what makes us so dangerous.
I think yaya is a awesome player when he wants to be. I think you are as fiuid as us when you at your best with the likes of nasri and siva moving forward. You shown that in your home games vs newcastle and man united. Only thing i say with city midfield is they do not do enough pressing of the ball . The Bayern game i felt you did not do enough to close down the spaces against them.

The Bayern game is a good example of what YAYA isn't good at Fernandinho and YAYA in front of our back four is why we were overrun.. Saying that Bayern are the best team I've seen at out ground...
 
JoeMercer'sWay said:
waspish said:
gooner2 said:
You make some good points. I just disagree about tackling bit. Ramsey a fantastic tackler and was immense for us in chasing well of the ball last season. I am amazed you only have two. What about santi , or metersacker . I think yes just say we both have great teams that going to be going at the whole season. Nothing between us really.

Take your word on Ramsey's tackling ability you watch him more than I do.. Also your Ramsey Wiltshire and Ozil midfield is probably bit more fluid than ours because the one thing YAYA hasn't got is he ability turn on a sixpence...

Ramsey has completed the most tackles per game of any player in the league this season.

Didn't know that he has improved 100% as a player then maybe his injuries have fully cleared up now also he looks full of confidence amazing what a world class player brings to a squad, lift the whole squad..
 
waspish said:
gooner2 said:
waspish said:
Take your word on Ramsey's tackling ability you watch him more than I do.. Also your Ramsey Wiltshire and Ozil midfield is probably bit more fluid than ours because the one thing YAYA hasn't got is he ability turn on a sixpence...

Ramsey tackling ability was poor a year ago. But he is so much better at it this year and he far more confident when going forward.
We have a very fiuid midfield with wilshire, ozil and ramsey. Then we have likes of arteta doing the ugly defensive stuff. It what makes us so dangerous.
I think yaya is a awesome player when he wants to be. I think you are as fiuid as us when you at your best with the likes of nasri and siva moving forward. You shown that in your home games vs newcastle and man united. Only thing i say with city midfield is they do not do enough pressing of the ball . The Bayern game i felt you did not do enough to close down the spaces against them.

The Bayern game is a good example of what YAYA isn't good at Fernandinho and YAYA in front of our back four is why we were overrun.. Saying that Bayern are the best team I've seen at out ground...

To be fair you did face the best team in europe and they beat us 3-1 at our turf in second round last season. So no shame in that. I think yaya not so good as chasing back as fernandinho is. I think you could of done with more of a extra central midfielder on the night. You were overun in midfield that night.
 
gooner2 said:
waspish said:
gooner2 said:
You make some good points. I just disagree about tackling bit. Ramsey a fantastic tackler and was immense for us in chasing well of the ball last season. I am amazed you only have two. What about santi , or metersacker . I think yes just say we both have great teams that going to be going at the whole season. Nothing between us really.

Take your word on Ramsey's tackling ability you watch him more than I do.. Also your Ramsey Wiltshire and Ozil midfield is probably bit more fluid than ours because the one thing YAYA hasn't got is he ability turn on a sixpence...

Ramsey tackling ability was poor a year ago. But he is so much better at it this year and he far more confident when going forward.
We have a very fiuid midfield with wilshire, ozil and ramsey. Then we have likes of arteta doing the ugly defensive stuff. It what makes us so dangerous.
I think yaya is a awesome player when he wants to be. I think you are as fiuid as us when you at your best with the likes of nasri and siva moving forward. You shown that in your home games vs newcastle and man united. Only thing i say with city midfield is they do not do enough pressing of the ball . The Bayern game i felt you did not do enough to close down the spaces against them.
I wouldn't judge City on any performances in Europe. We for some reason seriously under-perform in Europe. Mental block I reckon.

Your Arsenal team is growing in confidence with every game. I think everyone is beginning to believe that this could be your year, however City are improving too.

We both have our strength and weaknesses

City's weakness: Kompany seems injury prone, and without him we have struggled away from home
City's strength: Tremendous strength in depth in midfield and the forward line that should be important in February and March when it's back to back big games every 3-4 days.

Arsenal's weakness: Over-reliant on Giroud? Plenty of goals comig from midfield, but hedoes seem pivotal to your style of play.
Arsenal's strength: Midfield options, and desire to win. At times in the last 2 seasons I feel City have been complacent and failed to kill teams off when they are on top. Right now Arsenal have that hunger
 
afc16 said:
somebody asked for a gif of wilsheres goal earlier couldn't be bothered to go back and find who it was but here goes

<a class="postlink" href="http://abload.de/img/arsenal-yrj6rfkydb.gif" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://abload.de/img/arsenal-yrj6rfkydb.gif</a>

Great goal - I really enjoy seeing football like that.

I think Arsenal are contenders this year, but I still put Chelsea as our biggest threat at the moment. They have a tough run of 5 or so games coming up, and then finish it off with a trip to the Etihad. If they are above us come the end of that run then I will start to worry about them a lot more. If you do rate Arsenals chances then you can still get 5/1 on them to win it, a fantastic price for a side top of the table after 8 games, but a true reflection that they still aren't the biggest threat.
 
waspish said:
JoeMercer'sWay said:
waspish said:
Take your word on Ramsey's tackling ability you watch him more than I do.. Also your Ramsey Wiltshire and Ozil midfield is probably bit more fluid than ours because the one thing YAYA hasn't got is he ability turn on a sixpence...

Ramsey has completed the most tackles per game of any player in the league this season.

Didn't know that he has improved 100% as a player then maybe his injuries have fully cleared up now also he looks full of confidence amazing what a world class player brings to a squad, lift the whole squad..

You make a very good point. I think ramsey has improved so much going forward and in his tackles per game. Also ozil signing not just added a great player. It sent a message to world football that we meant buisness this season.
 
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