Arsenal Thread 2013/14

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Metro:
Arsenal are considering a £17m summer move for Paris St-Germain striker Marco Verratti, 21, despite the fact the Italian has not scored in 50 appearances since signing for the French club in 2012.
Yeh, he's been slightly handicapped in the goalscoring stakes by playing as a CDM, wonder why that is? Idiot Journo.
 
aguero93:20 said:
Metro:
Arsenal are considering a £17m summer move for Paris St-Germain striker Marco Verratti, 21, despite the fact the Italian has not scored in 50 appearances since signing for the French club in 2012.
Yeh, he's been slightly handicapped in the goalscoring stakes by playing as a CDM, wonder why that is? Idiot Journo.

Verratti would be double that at least
 
Kippax Street 1880 said:
aguero93:20 said:
Metro:
Arsenal are considering a £17m summer move for Paris St-Germain striker Marco Verratti, 21, despite the fact the Italian has not scored in 50 appearances since signing for the French club in 2012.
Yeh, he's been slightly handicapped in the goalscoring stakes by playing as a CDM, wonder why that is? Idiot Journo.

Verratti would be double that at least
and he's not a striker.
 
Ozil has most certainly not had a great first season. He had a brilliant honeymoon period and was great to watch in the first 2 months, but he's tailed off big time, mainly due to being overplayed.

Playing well for your first two months of the season does not constitute to having played a great first season
 
Perhaps the debate on Ozil has taken the discussion a bit sideways and the real point that was being made has been forgotten. Wenger bought him on the last day of the window, out of the blue. Maybe he thought 'this is too good an opportunity to miss', but why did he still have at least £40m to spend? If he had sorted out the forwards and defence adequately and still had the money then fine, but as he didn't, I don't think buying Ozil adds or subtracts from Wenger's actions being un-fathomable to everybody else.

As for Ozil on the pitch, the jury is still out for me, but if Wenger doesn't sort out the rest of the team for next season it will still have been pointless to buy him. Even more so if he helped make last seasons 4th place team finish 5th.

It would be interesting to know how much money the owners have taken out of the club while the club 'couldn't afford' transfer fees and wages.
 
more lazy than useless said:
Perhaps the debate on Ozil has taken the discussion a bit sideways and the real point that was being made has been forgotten. Wenger bought him on the last day of the window, out of the blue. Maybe he thought 'this is too good an opportunity to miss', but why did he still have at least £40m to spend? If he had sorted out the forwards and defence adequately and still had the money then fine, but as he didn't, I don't think buying Ozil adds or subtracts from Wenger's actions being un-fathomable to everybody else.

As for Ozil on the pitch, the jury is still out for me, but if Wenger doesn't sort out the rest of the team for next season it will still have been pointless to buy him. Even more so if he helped make last seasons 4th place team finish 5th.

It would be interesting to know how much money the owners have taken out of the club while the club 'couldn't afford' transfer fees and wages.

Some Gooners on that Untold Arsenal blog were quick to tell me a couple of months ago that nobody on their board of directors takes money out of the club. Can anyone clarify?
 
M18CTID said:
more lazy than useless said:
Perhaps the debate on Ozil has taken the discussion a bit sideways and the real point that was being made has been forgotten. Wenger bought him on the last day of the window, out of the blue. Maybe he thought 'this is too good an opportunity to miss', but why did he still have at least £40m to spend? If he had sorted out the forwards and defence adequately and still had the money then fine, but as he didn't, I don't think buying Ozil adds or subtracts from Wenger's actions being un-fathomable to everybody else.

As for Ozil on the pitch, the jury is still out for me, but if Wenger doesn't sort out the rest of the team for next season it will still have been pointless to buy him. Even more so if he helped make last seasons 4th place team finish 5th.

It would be interesting to know how much money the owners have taken out of the club while the club 'couldn't afford' transfer fees and wages.

Some Gooners on that Untold Arsenal blog were quick to tell me a couple of months ago that nobody on their board of directors takes money out of the club. Can anyone clarify?
Ivan Gazanidis didn't earn a dividend per share, but took £3,879,000 in directors payments in 2011/12 including bonuses, benefits and pension contributions, nearly 4 times as much as their next highest executive. a Rose by a different name....
 
Silva's first season here>Ozil's first season here

Ozil had a good opening 9 or 10 games. Then he disappeared plus injury until about a month ago where he put a couple of good performances in then. First season or not, the guy is proven class at £40m after playing for Real Madrid. Drogba, Tevez and Mascherano were not. They developed here from being young, relatively unproven players at top teams. So by my personal understanding, for £40m, he's not had a brilliant first season.
 
sjk2008 said:
Ozil has most certainly not had a great first season. He had a brilliant honeymoon period and was great to watch in the first 2 months, but he's tailed off big time, mainly due to being overplayed.

...and quite a lot to do with him being a complete and utter vagina
 
City Raider said:
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lol i could find more articles saying the opposite but don't need to because my argument isn't really based on how good they were, they only need to be average to have had a better first season than ozil
Please go and find them then. Your argument was that the stats meant Tevez and Drogba had done well, which they don't and nor did the fans of the club agree they had been great.

Tevez, Drogba and Macherano were not talents for the future like Ronaldo, Robben or Oscar. They had all had breakthrough seasons prior to the move.

Ozil has been good for more than half a season and his performance is closer to that of Negredo, except Ozil has played more football. A lot of the Arsenal fans that have been giving him stick have changed their mind after seeing the team without him. 1/5 wins since he got injured.
 
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