Assisted dying

[stonerblue]

How do you know it’ll be a painful drawn out death. Medical professionals are very bad at giving prognosis in weeks or months. Days and years they are better at. People given 6 months to live still alive 5 years later isn’t unheard of.

No, it isn't.
Neither is people being kept alive with no quality of life and no prospect of recovery.

 

[hilts]

How do you know it’ll be a painful drawn out death. Medical professionals are very bad at giving prognosis in weeks or months. Days and years they are better at. People given 6 months to live still alive 5 years later isn’t unheard of.

Not sure of your point tbh, if someone is in severe pain and there is only one way out of that pain then it should be open to them. Your assertion that someone might be in pain longer is a tad odd.

If someone lives pain free for 6 months or 5 years then they ain't likely to want assisted dying.

Unless your arguing there is some length of time that people should you know have to put with being in pain.

Some odd arguments going on.

 

[hilts]

No, it isn't.
Neither is people being kept alive with no quality of life and no prospect of recovery.

This insistence on keeping people alive who don't want to be is fucking strange. Like you can nip down the road for a death jab whenever you like if this comes in.

 

[mackenzie]

Not sure where this notion that mentally ill people could be 'offered' AD has come from regarding the uk bill.
I presume the very limited criteria to 'qualify' rules out those who are not deemed 'sane'.
On a philosophical level, i think anybody should be able to control their own life, even those suffering depression. Most people diagnosed with a long term debillitating illness will also suffer from depression once their future is laid out before them (my mrs was suicidal on and off for a couple of years).
In fact, i'd say that somebody knowing a process is in place for when/if it all comes on top would look at their future in a slightly more positive light.
Saying all that, i think mental health issues and physical health issues shouldn't be lumped in together regarding AD.

I think the Canadian consideration/proposal for a possible expansion is something that should be watched carefully.
To add to that I think if the UK allows AD for simply what is suggested at this moment then it's hard to disagree with it.
It's any expansion for purely mental illness that alarms.

 

[johnny crossan]

BBC giving the proponents and supporters of assisted dying prime time at every opportunity. (1 in 3 death prescriptions in Canada currently not used and 90% of the patients concerned still living 5 years later expressing relief that they did not go ahead!)

 

[blue b4 the moon]

It's an awfully difficult subject. My step father-in-law was severely disabled from quite young due to a motorcycle accident and gradually got worse. He was on not for rescuss 3/4 times, in/out of hospital for years, carers winching him out of bed at home, sat watching TV all day etc... basically a crap life after his wife passed for about 15 years until he passed aged 80.


He'd have signed up for the jab but his daughters wouldn't have let him if an open choice.

 

[stonerblue]

BBC giving the proponents and supporters of assisted dying prime time at every opportunity. (1 in 3 death prescriptions in Canada currently not used and 90% of the patients concerned still living 5 years later expressing relief that they did not go ahead!)

No they are not.
Do you think they're pushing some sort of agenda?

 

[johnny crossan]

No they are not.
Do you think they're pushing some sort of agenda?

This morning on Politics Live they had an interview with David Cameron on why he changed his mind, extended interview with Kim Leadbetter yesterday - take a look at the balance in this guide to their coverage of the subject

Euthanasia and assisted dying - BBC News

All the latest content about Euthanasia and assisted dying from the BBC.

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[Kirkstall Blue]

Doesn't really apply this, assisted dying is about shortening a very painful drawn out death.

We don’t have assisted dying “yet” a living will does help people who are worried about end of life being dragging out and a long and painful death.
It’s a big document but the NHS will no doubt follow instructions. If you don’t want to be force fed or antibiotics etc.
I didn’t know you could do this so I’ll look into it a bit more. Meanwhile we can see what tomorrow brings I hope it’s a free “yes” vote the PM just said it is.

 

[metalblue]

No, it isn't.
Neither is people being kept alive with no quality of life and no prospect of recovery.

Absolutely. I’d rather we had an evidence based discussion that medical professionals had a significant input in to it.

Having 400 odd people discuss it for a couple of weeks isn’t good enough. I’m not opposed to it, I’m opposed to it being badly done. What is being debated in parliament is not going to help many people so it will need to change - it feels like they are just trying to push the door ajar rather than come up with decent law.