Atmosphere - 2023/24

[jrb]

The atmosphere is only good on certain games. Maine Road was hardly rocking at home to Southampton or Coventry for example. I think time means nostalgia takes over. Without Environmental Health providing comparable acoustic readings we will never know!

It was against Spurs in the FA Cup. Ask the grounds man and GMP. ;-)

 

[MikeF]

I don’t think the Etihad is any worse or better than any other stadium in respect of atmosphere

 

[WestGorton]

It was against Spurs in the FA Cup. Ask the grounds man and GMP. ;-)

I was there!

 

[WestGorton]

I don’t think the Etihad is any worse or better than any other stadium in respect of atmosphere

Is the right answer

 

[jrb]

I don’t think the Etihad is any worse or better than any other stadium in respect of atmosphere

Over a season it probably isn’t. But the continuing narrative played out across the media and other fan bases, mainly the red shirts, for obvious reasons, say‘s the Etihad does have a poor atmosphere. Having the poor atmosphere brought up every now and again in public, cough, certainly isn’t helping.

 

[pride in battle]

Really? Perhaps I didn’t hear City fans in the Kippax, the North stand, the Platt Lane, and the Gene Kelly singing? :-)

How can I be making scapegoats if it’s the truth?

Ask Pep why he was trying to get the CBS and other parts of the Etihad to sing and to support the team against Liverpool. On-going.

Why do Newcastle fans support, sing, and create an atmosphere in all 4 of stands and we don’t, bar for the biggest games like Arsenal and Real Madrid last season?

It’s not about making scapegoats or sayin SSL1 is better than other stands and tiers, it‘s about wanting as many city fans as possible in every stand to join in supporting the team, instead of sitting their in complete silence, looking at their mobiles, taking videos, taking pictures, taking selfies, etc.

Look at our away support which is mostly Legacy, FOC’s and local City fans, it’s superb. It’s one of the best away supports in the country. Our away support only dips now and again in London as more away tickets tent to find their way to tourists and day trippers. Which has also happened at United and Liverpool.

And other days at Maine Road it was shit just like it is now but blaming city, Soriano etc is poor, thousands of city fans who have been going for years don't sing, whose fault is that ?

 

[Lavinda Past]

Eitihad pisses over Maine Road for memories and I'm a foc

All subjective. I had more good times with mates at Maine Road than at Eastlands.
The atmosphere all seems very 'forced' and 'manufactured' to me nowadays, and (particularly since Pep's arrival) the club seems to have lost touch with 'legacy' supporters.
Just my opinion, but nowadays I get just as much enjoyment watching on TV as I did watching from the Etihad stands.

 

[Didsbury Dave]

Really? Perhaps I didn’t hear City fans in the Kippax, the North stand, the Platt Lane, and the Gene Kelly singing? :-)

How can I be making scapegoats if it’s the truth?

Ask Pep why he was trying to get the CBS and other parts of the Etihad to sing and to support the team against Liverpool. On-going.

Why do Newcastle fans support, sing, and create an atmosphere in all 4 of stands and we don’t, bar for the biggest games like Arsenal and Real Madrid last season?

It’s not about making scapegoats or sayin SSL1 is better than other stands and tiers, it‘s about wanting as many city fans as possible in every stand to join in supporting the team, instead of sitting their in complete silence, looking at their mobiles, taking videos, taking pictures, taking selfies, etc.

Look at our away support which is mostly Legacy, FOC’s and local City fans, it’s superb. It’s one of the best away supports in the country. Our away support only dips now and again in London as more away tickets tent to find their way to tourists and day trippers. Which has also happened at United and Liverpool.

I’m guessing you didn’t go to Newcastle earlier this season.

 

[pride in battle]

All subjective. I had more good times with mates at Maine Road than at Eastlands.
The atmosphere all seems very 'forced' and 'manufactured' to me nowadays, and (particularly since Pep's arrival) the club seems to have lost touch with 'legacy' supporters.
Just my opinion, but nowadays I get just as much enjoyment watching on TV as I did watching from the Etihad stands.

Each to their own...

 

[Prophet of Doom]

And other days at Maine Road it was shit just like it is now but blaming city, Soriano etc is poor, thousands of city fans who have been going for years don't sing, whose fault is that ?

3 stands sit in complete silence every game. That’s the fault of our supporters which I totally agree.

However, the people running the club ( not blaming Soriano as there are people that will be far more hands on for Matchday stuff than he is ) are to blame as they have done nothing whatsoever for a number of years to engage supporters.

In fact they have decided to do the exact opposite.

It’s the clubs fault they roll out the red carpet for tourists, neutrals and fans of other clubs at the expense of long term supporters.

It’s the clubs fault that games sold out in August magically have hundreds of empty seats in December.

It’s the clubs fault that fans of other clubs are sitting amongst us every week.

It’s the clubs fault that away games are filled with corporate guests and international guests with no interest in City and even fans of the away team.

it’s the clubs fault they set up the sham City Matters forum then ignore everything that is raised but happy that a few boxes have been ticked.

They could sort out many of these problems very quickly but they don’t give a fuck about us.

 

[GaudinoMotors]

How will we ever live with the shame of not being the most loudiest??

 

[jrb]

And other days at Maine Road it was shit just like it is now but blaming city, Soriano etc is poor, thousands of city fans who have been going for years don't sing, whose fault is that ?

I agree. I posted our support has to take some of the blame. So do the people running the club. The club has slowly and systematically pushed out legacy fans and replaced them with new fans who spend more money on a match day. The way available and lapsed season tickets have been turned into match day tickets instead. The use of 3rd party online ticket agencies to shift tickets. We're all responsible in one way or another for the deteriorating match day atmosphere at the Etihad. There was an improvement in the atmosphere last season and at the start of this season. We need to get the atmosphere back to those levels again. :-)

 

[jrb]

I’m guessing you didn’t go to Newcastle earlier this season.

No, I didn't. I don't go to as many away games as I used to. Work, etc.

 

[citymad]

What price is a ticket for the theatre or a concert ? The same mate

And would you leave 10 mins before the end? ..no you wouldn’t!

 

[Cheadle_hulmeBlue]

What price is a ticket for the theatre or a concert ? The same mate

I get what you’re saying, but I don’t think you can compare those things. Most people don’t go to the theatre or a concert every week for 3/4 of the year.

There’s also different demographics and I’d say it’s often cheaper to go to the theatre or a show than it is to go to the football.

 

[pride in battle]

I get what you’re saying, but I don’t think you can compare those things. Most people don’t go to the theatre or a concert every week for 3/4 of the year.

There’s also different demographics and I’d say it’s often cheaper to go to the theatre or a show than it is to go to the football.

That's why a season ticket is half the price but for someone who might only go for 2/3 games a year £70 is the going rate for live entertainment. ( I'm not saying it's right by the way)

 

[Groenendijk's tin of peas]

I'd love cheaper tickets, but that would just drive demand for tourists not dampen it.

And honestly I've not seen any evidence that City are giving agencies preferential treatment. We are a hot ticket and gray market sellers do what gray market sellers do for hot tickets.

I'm very pro cheaper tickets, but £71 is the going rate for PL tickets, and cheaper tickets just means tourists and touts pay less. Given this is the atmosphere thread I don't think charging, say, a flat £50 will entice fans who have drifted away back nor materially change the type of matchday crowd.

I don't for one second think the club are selling batch tickets to secondary market sellers as I don't think it is worth their time or effort to do so. The £30 is partly to try and limit that, though clearly it's not negating it entirely.

My main point is really pushing back a touch on the narrative that has taken hold here that if only City charged £x then x number of traditional blues would stream back and the atmosphere problem, if it is a problem, would be solved. I don't think it's that simple.

I find it a strange opinion to say that lowering the ticket price by £20+ for a match wouldn't entice local fans back.

 

[Cheadle_hulmeBlue]

That's why a season ticket is half the price but for someone who might only go for 2/3 games a year £70 is the going rate for live entertainment. ( I'm not saying it's right by the way)

I think £70 is way too high a price for one off matches. It’s only been around that price for the last couple of years.

Only two examples, I paid £77 for next years Liam Gallagher concert, which is a two hour show. I saw the blues brothers musical for £30. I’d say value for money and cost wise it’s more expensive to go to city games than a lot of live entertainment.

 

[Bluesince1979]

What price is a ticket for the theatre or a concert ? The same mate

Difference with a concert is its a one off event. You dont go and see “insert pop star” every other week at the appollo and then travel round the country watching them on the alternate weeks.

Football tickets are too expensive

 

[Brightwell Bros.]

I find it a strange opinion to say that lowering the ticket price by £20+ for a match wouldn't entice local fans back.

My argument is that I don't think there are 1000s and 10000s of former fans desperate to come to the game for £50 but not for £70. The "priced out" fans have stopped coming for a lot of complex reasons - demographic, social, economic, political - and I think their numbers are exaggerated by some on here. I don't see how you entice those fans back, but keep tourists away, at that price point without getting really UKIPY about how you distribute tickets that are bound to fail at the first attempt.

But I'm very, very pro £50 tickets, and I'd be thrilled if that allows a few more families to come to games. I just don't think it would make a jot of difference to the atmosphere.