Atmosphere 2024/25

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Can’t be arsed making its own thread, but they really need to sort the queues out otherwise we’ll have people leaving earlier and earlier before half time. Worst they’ve been, and looks like it stems from having to scan your season ticket for the poxy discount.
100% the queues in 115 were twice as long as last season due to the scanning rather than just showing it to them. Will cost themselves more by people just giving up and not getting a pint.
 
I actually thought SSL was decent today, thought 115 was good could be better but definitely not the worst. As everybody knows though noise just doesn't travel in the ground. It is what it is at the end of the day and personally I stopped bothering years ago about what reaches other sections as on the whole it is pretty good in south lower.

Kippax corner isn't normally heard by south stand lower (other than the digs latter in the game!) and vice versa. Up top in ss3 can't hear down below and the same back. Other than them 3 sections nobody really bothers so it is always going to end up with a split of songs etc. Nothing is going to change on the front.

I'm on the opposite side where I thought the Ipswich fans weren't that bad either, our away section has to be one of the worst in the league for getting atmosphere going cos of the split (bar the likes of wolves etc) and they were right up for it.
 
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The same old story, i'm afraid the horse has bolted. This is modern football, daytrip fans spending fortunes in the club shop, atmosphere not helped by the rowdiest supporters disappearing 10 minutes before half time etc. On the pitch it's amazing, but in the stands it has lost its edge. Victims of our own success I suppose.
I was in ss lever 1 instead of 220.
OK atmosphere.
A lot less tourists than in my normal seat
 
The other recurring theme is our fans need to sing.
So true, and blaming the tiered set-up doesn't entirely wash with me, the away section can be very loud, Villa were for a lot of the title decider before our incredible 3 goals in 6mins, so it should be possible for the rest of SS1/2/3 to at least equal that, and the idea that a 'home end' in North Stand will be a panacea just won't be the case unless more people put the effort in to sing and shout. Problem, also, is the more diluted any traditional vocal support becomes with (quieter) newbies or tourists, the harder it is for even the most vociferous to generate noise, to the point where even they might become disillusioned and give up a losing battle.
This is not to say that home games cannot be a bear pit, as we know they can be in those games where the jeopardy is highest. Also the away effort* continues to usually be quite astonishingly good, even with a degree of ticket dilution (something the club really need to address, pause, or preferably reverse)...

edit: *here I mean OUR away fans...
and edit2: we know that all grounds lose the 'edge' without a degree of jeopardy, whether directly in the match on show, and/or what the result will do to league position, and if the team are cruising, playing game-management, then the crowd inevitably have less to react to.
 
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It was a bit muted but considering we were playing a team that in reality shouldn’t be anywhere near this level of football it was ok, it was a bit like an early round FA cup game against a D1 side, it meant more to them than us, let’s face Ipswich will be nothing more than point fodder, and then relegation will come and chances are they will never get back up, they are this seasons Blackpool
 
The other recurring theme is our fans need to sing.
Yep.

We can ask the club to tweak things to help, and we should continue to do that. However, supporters going to the game should fundamentally ask themselves what is the point of them being there if they sit in silence.

I sit in SS218 (not the quietest part of the ground) and yet most fans around me were entirely silent except for cheering goals and Ilkay coming on.
 
115. Left at 40 to get a pint and barely got it with 2 minutes until teams come back out.

Thought atmosphere was OK considering the competition. There's only so many tractor boys songs we could make up
 
The atmosphere stands or falls on SS3 as they sing the songs that the ground join in with. It didn’t bode well for the rest of the season today up there.
I was pretty surprised how quiet and indifferent the atmosphere was.I thought with it being the first home game for months it would be loud.
I was knackered after starting work at 6am and having to rush down in time,plus my seasoncard not working as is the norm for me.
As usual,when we need it,our fans deliver,and we will as the season progresses.Up the blues.
 
If the away fans were moved we’d have an extra 1000+ City fans in SSL3. We’d have the whole of SSL3 full of City fans.

Just as importantly, we’d have an extra 1000+ safe standing seats that are already installed in the SSL3 away end, that City could push as a new singing section in SSL3.

We’d end up with the new 8000 capacity North stand home end, a 6000 capacity SSL3 with a 1000+ capacity singing section, and the SSL1 singing section.

Obviously we’d lose the singers in 111, 110, and 109 if City put the away fans there, but that would also lesson the effect of their vocal support. The away fans in blocks 111, 110, and 109 would still have access to the coach park, so that wouldn’t be an issue.

Unfortunately I don’t think it will happen as I think the club are happy with the current away fans set up.
In a ideal world we would carry out all of your suggestions above, but as you say realistically the club aren’t going to move the away fans.

For me the focus should be on what we can do in the short term and then look at the bigger picture. For instance we could easily make the back 8 rows or so of ss3 safe standing. That could be a big difference as people who stand tend to get more involved in chants. When ss3 chant that gets the rest of the ground involved.

In the long term we need to focus on creating that home end in the new north stand.
 
In a ideal world we would carry out all of your suggestions above, but as you say realistically the club aren’t going to move the away fans.

For me the focus should be on what we can do in the short term and then look at the bigger picture. For instance we could easily make the back 8 rows or so of ss3 safe standing. That could be a big difference as people who stand tend to get more involved in chants. When ss3 chant that gets the rest of the ground involved.

In the long term we need to focus on creating that home end in the new north stand.

For some reason the club aren't thinking about adding safe standing in the home section on SSL3, as far as we know, even though the away end on SSL3 is now all safe standing.

I appreciate away fans stand anyway, so safe standing has probably only been installed to comply with ground regulations and H&S reasons, as the tier is so steep.

It does irk a bit that the away fans have got safe standing on SSL3, but City fans haven't.
 
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I have a new problem with the atmosphere. 5 of us up from Kent in 318 but we couldn't get tickets together even after being online for hours on release date.
So we were scattered around 318 is five like a song. Fans around me weren't singing and my mates said the same.
4 of us are foc been going for decades. Whilst I enjoyed the game I missed being with my mates.
We have another 3 games booked so far but again we aren't next together. If this is the same next season I'll knock it on the head and call it aday after 40yrs of match going. Seven and a half hrs drive to get to the Etihad than not sitting with your mates to enjoy the game. What's the point ?.
This is the first time we haven't even been able to get seats as a pair or more. I didn't enjoy not being with my mates, I missed the banter, the joy of scoring, the singing etc. If am honest I'm not really looking forward the next next 3 games we have.
Going to the game is about having a crack with your mates, I missed that but most of all I missed being sat with my lad.
I'm not saying us 5 made any difference to the atmosphere but us 5 didn't really sing because no one around us was really singing.

PS I don't think having the legend lounge in the middle of the SS works
 
I have a new problem with the atmosphere. 5 of us up from Kent in 318 but we couldn't get tickets together even after being online for hours on release date.
So we were scattered around 318 is five like a song. Fans around me weren't singing and my mates said the same.
4 of us are foc been going for decades. Whilst I enjoyed the game I missed being with my mates.
We have another 3 games booked so far but again we aren't next together. If this is the same next season I'll knock it on the head and call it aday after 40yrs of match going. Seven and a half hrs drive to get to the Etihad than not sitting with your mates to enjoy the game. What's the point ?.
This is the first time we haven't even been able to get seats as a pair or more. I didn't enjoy not being with my mates, I missed the banter, the joy of scoring, the singing etc. If am honest I'm not really looking forward the next next 3 games we have.
Going to the game is about having a crack with your mates, I missed that but most of all I missed being sat with my lad.
I'm not saying us 5 made any difference to the atmosphere but us 5 didn't really sing because no one around us was really singing.

The new stand should help with availability next season.
 
I have a new problem with the atmosphere. 5 of us up from Kent in 318 but we couldn't get tickets together even after being online for hours on release date.
So we were scattered around 318 is five like a song. Fans around me weren't singing and my mates said the same.
4 of us are foc been going for decades. Whilst I enjoyed the game I missed being with my mates.
We have another 3 games booked so far but again we aren't next together. If this is the same next season I'll knock it on the head and call it aday after 40yrs of match going. Seven and a half hrs drive to get to the Etihad than not sitting with your mates to enjoy the game. What's the point ?.
This is the first time we haven't even been able to get seats as a pair or more. I didn't enjoy not being with my mates, I missed the banter, the joy of scoring, the singing etc. If am honest I'm not really looking forward the next next 3 games we have.
Going to the game is about having a crack with your mates, I missed that but most of all I missed being sat with my lad.
I'm not saying us 5 made any difference to the atmosphere but us 5 didn't really sing because no one around us was really singing.
I comment often about crowd psychology. The first few minutes often set the tone. Many people in the non singing areas will sing if those around them are. That’s why the first few songs should be non-clapping anthems and not three consecutive versions of a new song like we had yesterday with that new Follow Follow.

If they organise the rollout of the new stand properly it should solve your problem perfectly as well as solving the other atmosphere problem: three small sections doing their own thing.
 
The problem is success. Winning year after year takes the tension away and people watch the game expecting to win. The emotion is absent other than quiet satisfaction. Dare I mention that the same thing happened at the old toilet during the run under that Scotsman. If we were relegated, the Etihad would be a cauldron in the lower division.
Real described the atmosphere for the UCL semi as the most fierce they had encountered; there was genuine tension in that game.
Absolutely agree. I said last night that I’ve never known a City support to be so nonplussed when we’ve conceded an opening goal. “Aah well, it’ll be alright.”
 
The mantra of 'the away fans can't be moved' should be challenged.....WHY NOT ??

Other clubs have moved away fans and relocated them in less advantageous locations.

There are few, if any, security, segregation, safety, transport or logistics issues in relocating away fans 'round the corner' of SSL1 & ESL1, they even have the benefit of all being pitch side.

SSL2 & 3 becomes a dedicated City end which imo will contribute more intensity to the atmosphere.

Surely an animation CGI, professionally presented to the relevant authorities, demonstrating a 'no risk' case could be persuasive.

Imo, there is more risk of fan confrontations around the Metro area than elsewhere on the campus.

Now, when other rearrangements are being made in preparation for the NS expansion, is the most appropriate time to do it or the opportunity will be lost.

Finally, the club should try directing away fans egressing the Metro to walk behind the ES not the CBS.

It is the shortest & most direct route and keeps them away from the coach welcome etc.

Alternatively, Metro,City, their club could instruct/ recommend they alight at Asda/ANW where the walk is even shorter.

This subject needs its own thread and CAMPAIGNING !!

'where there's a will there's a way' !!
 
For some reason the club aren't thinking about adding safe standing in the home section on SSL3, as far as we know, even though the away end on SSL3 is now all safe standing.

I appreciate away fans stand anyway, so safe standing has probably only been installed to comply with ground regulations and H&S reasons, as the tier is so steep.

It does irk a bit that the away fans have got safe standing on SSL3, but City fans haven't.
We always stand at the back of 318.
And it does irk that we don't have rails etc to hold onto.
 
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