Atmosphere at Eastlands

[blueinsa]

The team will always get the crowd going and if they don't like today, the atmosphere will always struggle.

People can go on about Aris and Poznan fans as much as they want, this is England, all seater stadiums with much stricter stewarding and policing than they will ever have in Greece or Poland and that's without mentioning the cost of going to a game in this country.

The team were shit today and to try to blame fans for that is desperate imo.

We've played two teams in the last 6 months ( Aris and Poznan ) both were shit both sets of fans were world class. England and English fans are obviously different but we as fans desperately need to improve the noise levels. Even the reading of the team names before the match was greeted with relative silence so that cannot be blamed on the team performance. The singing sections often get bogged down with anti United songs or homages to Grannies or Alans. None of that is actually changing anything on the pitch. Sing songs that support City. Everyone else if you cannot bring yourself to sing or shout encouragement then applaud a good ball, then applaud another, then another, pretty soon it becomes a habit, a good habit. We will get there bit by bit but we must all contribute.

The problem is mate that City are now all about the "experience".

Fuck the experience, its a football game, we don't want songs playing over the tannoy or drums or trumpets or any other fucking gimmick that im sure will be given to us over the coming months and years.

Let the lads sing loud and proud without the fear of a steward of copper throwing them out because some fucker here for the "experience" has moaned he cant see or he doesn't like swearing etc.

The club cant have it both ways.

 

[r.soleofsalford]

There are a number of things that help make an atmosphere:
1) The "size" of the game. If it's Chelsea or Arsenal there's a decent atmosphere. For Fulham or Wigan there isn't.

2) The away fans. Look at the difference between Thursday and today. A good set of away fans helps create an atmosphere.

3) The game itself. If it's a thrilling game with City well on top, playing scintillating football and scoring goals then they'll be a decent atmosphere.

Today failed on all three criteria and next week won't be any better.

Fully agree. The south stand was all but silent today, there were even a few times later in the game people tried to start songs in 111 and they didn't catch on, putting the 2 lots together wouldn't change that.

yes our most vocal sections of fans are divided by the away fans. but the main factor in the atmosphere is the way the team plays. if the team play poorly like today the fans grow increasingly quiet.

 

[xadox]

supporters SUPPORT the team in good and BAD!

 

[u2fme2]

well i for one thought it was shite today

 

[jrb]

The club had the opportunity to open up the lower tier of the South Stand for this game. They could have easily put that info out on the OS site, in the MEN, Twitter, Facebook and throughout various other oulets, stating they wanted to see the Kippax and SS come together as one and get behind the team. Fulham is one of those gmes where they never sell out, the lower tier is always available, and the atmosphere is always shocking.

ONCE AGAIN, IF THE PEOPLE RUNNING CITY REALLY WANTED IT TO HAPPEN, THEY COULD HAVE ORGANIZED IT AND DONE IT.

and once again if the fans actually made a point that we could actually bring to the table and argue with then i am sure they would listen.

You have to ask yourself this question - why would the club go to all the trouble with the police, the council, the health and safety people, the fans who would have to be relocated and the expense of making all these changes for something that is not even proven would work?

The people in charge of running OUR club are paid to make decisions based on using their head, not their heart and me now using my head i think they are best to leave it alone until the fans give themselves something to really argue about.

And what trouble would that be?

1. Informing the fans prior to the match.
2. Removing the barriers on the lower concorse, but leaving the lower concorse away exits closed, so the Fulham fans could exit safely from the upper exits.
Erm........... I'm struggling.
Oh sorry. The police, council, H&S also being informed. Like they were for Wigan last season, and they probably were for the 200 fans in the away today.

I've just used my head and not my heart. I'm not employed or paid by City either.

Over to you.

 

[WNRH]

and once again if the fans actually made a point that we could actually bring to the table and argue with then i am sure they would listen.

You have to ask yourself this question - why would the club go to all the trouble with the police, the council, the health and safety people, the fans who would have to be relocated and the expense of making all these changes for something that is not even proven would work?

The people in charge of running OUR club are paid to make decisions based on using their head, not their heart and me now using my head i think they are best to leave it alone until the fans give themselves something to really argue about.

And what trouble would that be?

1. Informing the fans prior to the match.
2. Removing the barriers on the lower concorse, but leaving the lower concorse away exits closed, so the Fulham fans could exit safely from the upper exits.
Erm........... I'm struggling.
Oh sorry. The police, council, H&S also being informed. Like they were for Wigan last season, and they probably were for the 200 fans in the away today.

I've just used my head and not my heart. I'm not employed or paid by City either.

Over to you.

Why didn't we as fans consult the club about doing it? infact this was the perfect chance with Wigan coming up, it could be tried and then tried again. Any atmosphere has to come from the fans, the club should not have to start the ball rolling with something like this.

 

[mike o]

The myth about a seated kippax down one side helping to create an atmosphere winds me up, There was a seated kippax at maine road and they hardly ever sung!

Our singers have always come from the cheap seats, sounds harsh but when it was cheapest to stand and sing on the kippax that's where our atmosphere came from. Then it was cheapest in the north stand and that was where the atmosphere came from.

The fact is if youre charging a fortune for tickets you mostly get the type of fan who wants to sit in his seat quietly and enjoy the "match-day experience"

Atmosphere has been loads better this year so hopefully it'll keep improving and coms will feel more like home BUT footballs sadly changed since the maine road days and it'll never be that good.

Fair play to the club for listening to fans and for people trying to do something, just my twenty penneth on the subject.

 

[jrb]

And what trouble would that be?

1. Informing the fans prior to the match.
2. Removing the barriers on the lower concorse, but leaving the lower concorse away exits closed, so the Fulham fans could exit safely from the upper exits.
Erm........... I'm struggling.
Oh sorry. The police, council, H&S also being informed. Like they were for Wigan last season, and they probably were for the 200 fans in the away today.

I've just used my head and not my heart. I'm not employed or paid by City either.

Over to you.

Why didn't we as fans consult the club about doing it? infact this was the perfect chance with Wigan coming up, it could be tried and then tried again. Any atmosphere has to come from the fans, the club should not have to start the ball rolling with something like this.

Why do the fans have to consulte the club about this?

Aren't there enough clever people at City who can see an opportunity and act upon it?

They're always coming up with ideas to improve the match day experience. That's what we are led to believe. Not only that, the fans have had numerous meetings with the club about improving the atmosphere. We've put numerous ideas forward as well. What thread did Ric start this week? EXACTLY.

Yet when an obvious situation presents itself for one of those matches and for probably the worst away following all season, what does the club do? Open the lower section of the away end to 200 City fans. Ah?

Come on WNRH stop trying to make excuses for the people running the club. There are alot of very clever people at City. They are very pro-active in so many areas. There are so many departments, and it is so tiered, you wouldn't believe it.

Yet when it comes to actually improving and implementing changes to improve that atmosphere, they haven't done a thing so far. Yet the whole of the North Stand can be turned into a Family Stand and thousands of supporters can be relocated to other areas of the stadium.

Put it this way.

The only reason why the Kippax corner and the SS is standing, is because we made a stance. The Police, Council and club gave up in the end. What was the point in throwing out fan after fan each week. I'll tell you something though. We'd still be sat down if certain people had their way.

The fans are trying their hardest to work with the club on this issue.(season after season) Yet the club has hardly implemented any of the talked about suggestions yet.

 

[blue b4 the moon]

The team will always get the crowd going and if they don't like today, the atmosphere will always struggle.

People can go on about Aris and Poznan fans as much as they want, this is England, all seater stadiums with much stricter stewarding and policing than they will ever have in Greece or Poland and that's without mentioning the cost of going to a game in this country.

The team were shit today and to try to blame fans for that is desperate imo.

Until City give us the opportunity, we will never find out. Today was the perfect opportunity. Advertise it as a fans get together, move the concorse barriers, let the fans pick a seat in the away end, and let the Kippax blocks and the SS come toegther for one game. It could have been done and at least worth a try.

Instead city sell 200 seats(?) in the away end, leave two away blocks empty, and the atmosphere was rubbish.

PS. Nobody is blaming the fans. But some more vocal support and a packed carnival atmosphere in the whole of the lower SS from the off, may have made all the difference.

The club are supposed to read this board.

They have the change to do this for Wigan.

Not holding my breath.

 

[WNRH]

Why didn't we as fans consult the club about doing it? infact this was the perfect chance with Wigan coming up, it could be tried and then tried again. Any atmosphere has to come from the fans, the club should not have to start the ball rolling with something like this.

Why do the fans have to consulte the club about this?

Aren't there enough clever people at City who can see an opportunity and act upon it?

They're always coming up with ideas to improve the match day experience. That's what we are led to believe. Not only that, the fans have had numerous meetings with the club about improving the atmosphere. We've put numerous ideas forward as well. What thread did Ric start this week? EXACTLY.

Yet when an obvious situation presents itself for one of those matches and for probably the worst away following all season, what does the club do? Open the lower section of the away end to 200 City fans. Ah?

Come on WNRH stop trying to make excuses for the people running the club. There are alot of very clever people at City. They are very pro-active in so many areas. There are so many departments, and it is so tiered, you wouldn't believe it.

Yet when it comes to actually improving and implementing changes to improve that atmosphere, they haven't done a thing so far. Yet the whole of the North Stand can be turned into a Family Stand and thousands of supporters can be relocated to other areas of the stadium.

Put it this way.

The only reason why the Kippax corner and the SS is standing, is because we made a stance. The Police, Council and club gave up in the end. What was the point in throwing out fan after fan each week. I'll tell you something though. We'd still be sat down if certain people had their way.

The fans are trying their hardest to work with the club on this issue.(season after season) Yet the club has hardly implemented any of the talked about suggestions yet.

If you read my contribution to this thread you will see i have been as critical of the club with regards to this as you are but something today clicked and changed my view on things. I was thinking with my heart before, but today i started to think with my head and now fully understand why the club aren't as bothered and enthusiastic about this as we appear to be.

You sum it up though mate in the second to last paragraph. You say we made a stance, well why aren't we making a stance at the games for this one end by singing non stop, by actually singing we want one end, a couple verses of "Oh Garry Cook, Oh Garry cooooooooook, give us our end, oh Garry Cook" instead we ridicule an away fan for being fat or wearing pink.

If people want this to happen then they are going to have to really show it instead of being hidden away on a thread on the internet. If people really feel strong about this then things can be done, banners, songs, really getting it out there that we want it but deep down and this has formed from today, i don't think really deep down too many people want it.