Atmosphere at Eastlands

[WNRH]

I have already said for big games the atmosphere is fine, its for games like today where meetings and long threads discussing how to improve it is a waste of time because the fans in the first place don't give themselves anything to fight for. I can imagine the club today thinking whats the point, where as imagine if the SS actually sung in unison for 90 mins and that in turn would get the other parts of the ground singing, Garry Cook and his mates would be hearing and looking thinking "imagine what this ground could sound like if we gave them what they want"

The club had the opportunity to open up the lower tier of the South Stand for this game. They could have easily put that info out on the OS site, in the MEN, Twitter, Facebook and throughout various other oulets, stating they wanted to see the Kippax and SS come together as one and get behind the team. Fulham is one of those gmes where they never sell out, the lower tier is always available, and the atmosphere is always shocking.

ONCE AGAIN, IF THE PEOPLE RUNNING CITY REALLY WANTED IT TO HAPPEN, THEY COULD HAVE ORGANIZED IT AND DONE IT.

and once again if the fans actually made a point that we could actually bring to the table and argue with then i am sure they would listen.

You have to ask yourself this question - why would the club go to all the trouble with the police, the council, the health and safety people, the fans who would have to be relocated and the expense of making all these changes for something that is not even proven would work?

The people in charge of running OUR club are paid to make decisions based on using their head, not their heart and me now using my head i think they are best to leave it alone until the fans give themselves something to really argue about.

 

[JOGAMIGMOG]

I'm a Utd fan and went today (took a mates son as he was in hospital), thought today was REALLY quiet considering your position. OT is never rocking for the visit of Fulham, but please tell me that Eastlands isn't normally this quiet?

It's not normally that quiet but then again unless we are playing in a big game it is not that much better than today. Today was only quiet because there weren't 3,000 away fans to bail us out.

I will probably get called a rag and a twat for this but Old Trafford has more atmosphere than Eastlands and it has nothing to do with an extra 30,000 people.

You Rag twat!

 

[Bill]

with the players we have and the things we are going to achieve the only thing missing is the same as it is now.

move the friggin away fans and give us our kippax back.

whatever it takes.

 

[Prestwich_Blue]

There are a number of things that help make an atmosphere:
1) The "size" of the game. If it's Chelsea or Arsenal there's a decent atmosphere. For Fulham or Wigan there isn't.

2) The away fans. Look at the difference between Thursday and today. A good set of away fans helps create an atmosphere.

3) The game itself. If it's a thrilling game with City well on top, playing scintillating football and scoring goals then they'll be a decent atmosphere.

Today failed on all three criteria and next week won't be any better.

 

[blueinsa]

The club had the opportunity to open up the lower tier of the South Stand for this game. They could have easily put that info out on the OS site, in the MEN, Twitter, Facebook and throughout various other oulets, stating they wanted to see the Kippax and SS come together as one and get behind the team. Fulham is one of those gmes where they never sell out, the lower tier is always available, and the atmosphere is always shocking.

ONCE AGAIN, IF THE PEOPLE RUNNING CITY REALLY WANTED IT TO HAPPEN, THEY COULD HAVE ORGANIZED IT AND DONE IT.

and once again if the fans actually made a point that we could actually bring to the table and argue with then i am sure they would listen.

You have to ask yourself this question - why would the club go to all the trouble with the police, the council, the health and safety people, the fans who would have to be relocated and the expense of making all these changes for something that is not even proven would work?

The people in charge of running OUR club are paid to make decisions based on using their head, not their heart and me now using my head i think they are best to leave it alone until the fans give themselves something to really argue about.

Whilst i dont agree with a word of what you have wrote, i do understand why you have written it.

The club is not fucking interested in creating a better atmosphere despite the lip service they constantly pay to the fans demanding it and asking to be put together with away fans moved.

They are only interested in making more money from you and if you cant or wont pay, providing more cushioned seats for those that will.

 

[WNRH]

with the players we have and the things we are going to achieve the only thing missing is the same as it is now.

move the friggin away fans and give us our kippax back.

whatever it takes.

I too as always have been for this, but are you certain it will work? Nothing at the moment suggests it would.

 

[bringer678]

with the players we have and the things we are going to achieve the only thing missing is the same as it is now.

move the friggin away fans and give us our kippax back.

whatever it takes.

I too as always have been for this, but are you certain it will work? Nothing at the moment suggests it would.

BECAUSE THE CLUB HASN'T LET US PROVE IT YET

 

[Palerider]

The team will always get the crowd going and if they don't like today, the atmosphere will always struggle.

People can go on about Aris and Poznan fans as much as they want, this is England, all seater stadiums with much stricter stewarding and policing than they will ever have in Greece or Poland and that's without mentioning the cost of going to a game in this country.

The team were shit today and to try to blame fans for that is desperate imo.

We've played two teams in the last 6 months ( Aris and Poznan ) both were shit both sets of fans were world class. England and English fans are obviously different but we as fans desperately need to improve the noise levels. Even the reading of the team names before the match was greeted with relative silence so that cannot be blamed on the team performance. The singing sections often get bogged down with anti United songs or homages to Grannies or Alans. None of that is actually changing anything on the pitch. Sing songs that support City. Everyone else if you cannot bring yourself to sing or shout encouragement then applaud a good ball, then applaud another, then another, pretty soon it becomes a habit, a good habit. We will get there bit by bit but we must all contribute.

Just seen De Niro's Bring back the Kippax campaign. I'm all for that. This surrounding and dependence on the away fans for "banter" is pathetic. We need no one but ourselves we should blame no one but ourselves.

 

[WNRH]

and once again if the fans actually made a point that we could actually bring to the table and argue with then i am sure they would listen.

You have to ask yourself this question - why would the club go to all the trouble with the police, the council, the health and safety people, the fans who would have to be relocated and the expense of making all these changes for something that is not even proven would work?

The people in charge of running OUR club are paid to make decisions based on using their head, not their heart and me now using my head i think they are best to leave it alone until the fans give themselves something to really argue about.

Whilst i dont agree with a word of what you have wrote, i do understand why you have written it.

The club is not fucking interested in creating a better atmosphere despite the lip service they constantly pay to the fans demanding it and asking to be put together with away fans moved.

They are only interested in making more money from you and if you cant or wont pay, providing more cushioned seats for those that will.

I too have also said this many times before even on this thread, we don't help ourselves do we? All we have to argue with at the table is the notion that it will work based on nothing, now imagine if the atmopshere today was really good, we could then say to the club "look what we can create when there is no away fans, and two sets of singers seperated by rows of empty seats, give us a full end that is ours and we will make it twice as good" but instead the reply back from the club will be "it will cost alot, upset some fans and involve aload of discussions with the authorities and there is nothing to say making all these changes will make it any better"

I mean what happens if we do get given the whole of the south stand and the club have to piss off some supporters, maybe even hundreds of supporters by relocating them and splitting them up from their mates and people they have got to know for a long time to accomodate the away fans and then next year against fulham or wigan where there are no away fans to bail us out and the game is poor and all 6,000 south standers are standing up with their arms folded moaning and not making any noise whatsoever? They would be asking themselves why they have gone to all that trouble for a bunch of people who moan and called us idiots and have ultimately lied?

 

[sweep]

There are a number of things that help make an atmosphere:
1) The "size" of the game. If it's Chelsea or Arsenal there's a decent atmosphere. For Fulham or Wigan there isn't.

2) The away fans. Look at the difference between Thursday and today. A good set of away fans helps create an atmosphere.

3) The game itself. If it's a thrilling game with City well on top, playing scintillating football and scoring goals then they'll be a decent atmosphere.

Today failed on all three criteria and next week won't be any better.

Fully agree. The south stand was all but silent today, there were even a few times later in the game people tried to start songs in 111 and they didn't catch on, putting the 2 lots together wouldn't change that.