That's the bit that they want their followers to beleive Bin Laden made his famous from Arabia to al-Andalus (What we know as Spain) speech trying to recreate the days of the Caliphs, ISIS is different they are more of a doomsday cult trying to enable the end of days so the Prophet (or God I forget which one) can return to rule the earth, the enlightenment and the subsequent development of Western Civilisation seems to have passed by the Islamic world (Kamal Ataturk the founding father of modern Turkey was of the exact same opinion and much of what he said back then could be said now)
But there is something far deeper going on, people must remember that most of the Muslim world lives in grinding poverty and is governed by repressive regimes, if you travel and talk to a lot of young Muslims in North Africa and around the world (which I have) you find out that they actually want what we have, the sexual liberty, freedom of expression, our relative wealth etc, but it's denied to them.
The idea that people fleeing war torn countries are a `swarm`, IMO, dehumanises them. This s your true intention, because that's the type of guy you are.Well how would you describe it Mr Sensitive?
Again, I attack ideas, you don't, that's the difference.
Poverty and wealth are really the drivers, religion is just the tool of control. There will never be peace in the world when the richest two - three people own more than the poorest billion .
Poverty and wealth are really the drivers, religion is just the tool of control. There will never be peace in the world when the richest two - three people own more than the poorest billion .
It's a fact that many people just can't seem to get in to their heads, if it's not Religion it's some form of political beliefPoverty and wealth are really the drivers, religion is just the tool of control. There will never be peace in the world when the richest two - three people own more than the poorest billion .
It is important to the right and anti immigration people who desperately want the terrorists to be Syrian refugees. For the rest the only important thing is finding them, their supporters, their network and the next attackers and stopping it happen again.Tbh, if I'm honest it's not really important where they come from. We've seen British Muslims attack this country so be it French, Belgium or Syrian their goal is the same. To kill as many people as they can
The idea that people fleeing war torn countries are a `swarm`, IMO, dehumanises them. This s your true intention, because that's the type of guy you are.
Still hasn't explained how you are so sure of a fact that no other news channel , oh apart from your very tenuous Greek mates, seems to be reportingCologne mates through football
Friends live in Chania, relative works at airforce base at Chania
It is important to the right and anti immigration people who desperately want the terrorists to be Syrian refugees. For the rest the only important thing is finding them, their supporters, their network and the next attackers and stopping it happen again.
Even if one of these murderers did come through Greece as a 'refugee' 6 weeks ago, its pretty irrelevant really, as this operation, 3 different team, with 3 very different targets, all co-ordinated to happen at pretty much the same time in one City, will have been months in the planning.Don't forget the witnesses who escaped too. They may be shown photos of suspects.
The fact that they have put this out there suggests they are convinced of his identity
It's been on Sky, itv, cnn and i thought i heard it mentioned on bbc earlier although i might have misheard it as i was mashing spuds in the kitchenStill hasn't explained how you are so sure of a fact that no other news channel , oh apart from your very tenuous Greek mates, seems to be reporting
Have you reported it to the Surete?
This is such an important point. The perceived contempt for Islam from the secular west is a source of great offence and contributes to the rise of extreme groups.The idea that people fleeing war torn countries are a `swarm`, IMO, dehumanises them. This s your true intention, because that's the type of guy you are.
Even if one of these murderers did come through Greece as a 'refugee' 6 weeks ago, its pretty irrelevant really, as this operation, 3 different team, with 3 very different targets, all co-ordinated to happen at pretty much the same time in one City, will have been months in the planning.
A few borders not being 'open' wouldn't have prevented it, the only thing that could have prevented it, is better intelligence. Its no coincidence that we have been free from a serious major attack since July 2005, because we woke up to the threat, and have taken it very seriously ever since. There's many here who think our security is over the top, but its that good, that we are far from an easy target, and people like this go for easy targets, as its easier to plan, and execute.
Not saying it couldn't happen here, it still could, but France is only 10 months since their last major attack, and presumably they tightened up considerably after that, yet they still saw France as an easy target, and planned an executed a near perfect operation, 3 separate team came together to do it. An attack here is much more likely to be a lone wolf lucky attack imho.
I was in Calais on Thursday, and was quite shocked by 2 things, firstly the size of the camp near the port where people, I won't call them refugees, or immigrants, are trying to get into the UK, its far bigger than I expected, it really is a tented City. The second thing that shocked me was the security that is now in place to prevent these people getting here, all paid for by the UK I imagine, its very impressive, from getting of the ferry, the fencing is tens of miles long, double, triple layered fencing, all high, all topped with razor wire, and yet we still can't stop them making it.
I don't think that terrorists like this need to hide with refugees to get here, they are well funded, and there are simpler methods to get here, than walking hundreds of miles, through many different countries, always at the risk of being detained.
They you go again, misrepresenting the truthIt's been on Sky, itv, cnn and i thought i heard it mentioned on bbc earlier although i might have misheard it as i was mashing spuds in the kitchen
So, two look to have come over as refugees. Farage called this month's ago and the lefties just laughed and called him a bigot in their usual 'know everything' attitude. I just hope it's the only two that have come through with refugees. I very much doubt it though.
Exactly, religion is the tool for ISIS, nationalism Was for fascism , or Marxism was for Stalin . People are about wealth & power and they use nationalism, religion, Marxism are tools to gain support and consolidate power. They are political toolsIt's a fact that many people just can't seem to get in to their heads, if it's not Religion it's some form of political belief
It is important to the right and anti immigration people who desperately want the terrorists to be Syrian refugees. For the rest the only important thing is finding them, their supporters, their network and the next attackers and stopping it happen again.