Autophagy (and fasting).

Agree on adjusting to meet your own requirements and rhythms.

I've posted before about how awful my sleep is, but I've continued to eat around 10pm.
I do this because I'm either having a gym class until 9:30 (like tonight's yoga class) and didn't want to eat beforehand.
I'll do my dinner at 6 today giving me a two hour window before class.
But I have running club on Monday at 6:45 till around 7:45 - that's a tricky one to fit dinner around (before....not a great idea, after then I suppose 8ish isn't too bad.

I tend to have lunch at around 1:45 so an early evening dinner seems too close.

So I'll eat lunch earlier (and lighter - maybe have my fruit then).
Trial and error mode this week.
 
domalino said:
For me, I chug a 500ml bottle of very cold water first thing in the morning, then have either a green tea or herbal tea as soon as I get into the office and I don't miss tea or coffee.

A lot of that craving for a cup of tea first thing is probably thirst and caffeine dependency.
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Hydrate before you caffeinate. It's that simple, and God I love that saying.

People should be having at least 500ml of water down their neck first thing on a morning before contemplating anything else. We lose around double that throughout the night.

Coffee is great if used appropriately but most people just ain't drinking anywhere near enough water, which can even lead to binge eating.
 
Fat Chance said:
Caffiene is xenobiotic
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Bring. Sources.

There are dozens if not hundreds of studies on IF that have allowed black tea or coffee, it’s the consensus opinion that they’re allowed among advocates of IF, so if you’re going to tell people it’s not allowed, bring some sources to back it up, otherwise it’s not helpful at all and just potentially discouraging people who think that can’t go without any caffeine.
 
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You can understand why it happens. For millions of years while we evolved into what we are, we didn’t have a ready supply of food in a fridge or cupboard that we could just nip to. We might have not been successful with hunts, a rival tribe might have eaten and taken all the local growing fruit for themselves, we might be in the middle of Winter where nothing much is growing so what food we had (nuts, dried and smoked meat) might be only eaten every few days, a natural disaster like a flood could wipe out our territory, we might be stuck up a tree for a couple of days while a pride of lions is waiting below to eat us… so our bodies evolved to eat the waste from our own bodies to keep us alive.

Be interesting to see if more studies come out about this as there seems to be very little about it with regards to humans (how long we should fast for to hit the ideal for autophagy, whether we can consume anything at all while fasting…).
 
Fat Chance said:
Autophagy is all about giving the internal organs nothing to do. Caffeine will need metabolising...
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So would calcium, magnesium, sodium, fluoride, potassium, iron and zinc in water wouldn’t they?
 
Psychedelic Casual said:
You can understand why it happens. For millions of years while we evolved into what we are, we didn’t have a ready supply of food in a fridge or cupboard that we could just nip to. We might have not been successful with hunts, a rival tribe might have eaten and taken all the local growing fruit for themselves, we might be in the middle of Winter where nothing much is growing so what food we had (nuts, dried and smoked meat) might be only eaten every few days, a natural disaster like a flood could wipe out our territory, we might be stuck up a tree for a couple of days while a pride of lions is waiting below to eat us… so our bodies evolved to eat the waste from our own bodies to keep us alive.

Be interesting to see if more studies come out about this as there seems to be very little about it with regards to humans (how long we should fast for to hit the ideal for autophagy, whether we can consume anything at all while fasting…).
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When you consider we already know our bodies have the ability to recycle Essential Amino Acids, I don’t think it’s too far a stretch that it doesn’t stop there.
 
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