Away tickets

[lancs blue]

I must be mixing 2 games up then. I didn't use to work weekends and for the game I'm thinking of, I remember having to take the day off work and drive down, so it must have been mid-week.

The midweek game at Plymouth was the following season in the League Cup, we won 6-3 three days before playing them away in the League.

 

[PragueBlue]

The midweek game at Plymouth was the following season in the League Cup, we won 6-3 three days before playing them away in the League.

Cheers. Must have been mixing the 2 up as I went to the 3-2 as well and the 2 must have merged in my elderly brain!

 

[Millwallawayveteran1988]

They will when they purchase 3,000 from Chelsea and only sell around 2,000.That happened a few seasons back. Following season they ordered only 1,500. I'm sure under this new system it will happen again!

Does that rule still apply though? Clubs would have to pay us all the time in that case. Seems a bit unfair that Fulham for example have to pay for unsold seats at virtually every game they play

 

[DontLookBackInAnger]

I think we played Plymouth a whole bunch of times in that period because we played them in the Full Members Cup and the FA Cup in 1987/88 ontop of twice in the League Cup 1988/89 and four times in the league in those two seasons.

 

[lancs blue]

Does that rule still apply though? Clubs would have to pay us all the time in that case. Seems a bit unfair that Fulham for example have to pay for unsold seats at virtually every game they play

I think the rule is that around half the allocation can be taken on sale or return basis but if you take the full amount you have to pay for the rest whether sold or not.

 

[Manc Born & Bred]

I stand by my criticism of Prestwich Blue. No point revisiting that.

The 10000 pointers are not permanently excluded from most away games. Many away games went to low points last year. They don't deserve to be at Anfield or Old Trafford.

Pretty sure that nearly all the high pointers had season tickets at Maine Road. I myself was in crowds of 4029 (Leeds 1985 Full Members Cup) and 3007 (Mansfield 1998 Auto Wind Shield Trophy).

What needs to happen now is that we need to make the club aware of the strength of feeling on this issue and if necessary embarrass the powers that be.

So feel free to have the last word. I'm not engaging with you any more.

I got chucked out of that Leeds game for suggesting that the few Leeds fans that were there should go forth and multiply as well as suggesting they were born out of wedlock.

 

[Cheadle_hulmeBlue]

By lots of games have become a closed shop do you mean the ones you fancy going to that don't put you out to much and are popular with most fans,or is it because the lads and ladies who've put the effort in to do the shitty ones happen to have got them first.

Of course people want to go to the big away games... how is it fair though that thousands of loyal city fans will never be able to go to say united or Liverpool away literally because they were born later

Plenty of die hard blues can’t go to the shitty games on a wedneday night for all sorts of reasons - kids, money, work. It doesn’t make you less of a fan.

Even if you did start going to the unfashionable away games as you say it would take years to even get close. And you’d have to hope fans on 20,000 points stopped going or selling their tickets on

Ian cheesmans videos are a perfect example of that - it’s the same people for all the big games

 

[Manc Born & Bred]

Well done for being there but plenty more than the 20,000+ pointers stood by City through the dark times otherwise we wouldn't have been getting 28,000 in the third division.

Put it to the club by all means but they'll be aware that 1894 put out a poll which 3000 city fans took part in and the largest number supported the changes. Not definitive but indicative, and if the club want to put it to season ticket holders, I'd be in support of that too. We'll see where it goes.

Hardly a proper indication. Who were these 3,000 people that voted? Were they all card holders and regular match goers, I suspect not.

 

[Manc Born & Bred]

Not complaining. Just noticeable.

I can never workout how kids with their parent/s manage to get away ticket’s.

Can you bequeath your away points to your Grand Children when you pass away?

If the adult qualifies then you can pull through a junior ticket regardless of how many points the junior has. What you need to ask is how so many younger kids 16 - 20 manage to get hold of tickets on a regular basis and seemingly altogether in the same row without and adult in site. The answer is abuse of the system

 

[Manc Born & Bred]

the 3-2 we lost at Home Park after being 2-0 up was a Saturday game(the one Paul Stewart played in). However, I remember it clearly because the supporters club coach kept stopping at each service station to see if the game had been called off, most people thought there was no chance the game would be played there was so much flooding down there, don't think I have ever seen a pitch with so much sand on it

Think you have muddled up the years. The 1988/89 season we beat them 6-3 midweek away from home in the cup and then on the Saturday in the league 1-0. The midweek game was called off late a Tuesday afternoon and played on the Wednesday. Coaches got down as far as Somerset I think before being turned around.

 

[Mhh1960]

There is something i don't quite understand from some of the posts. I have 3 children & all have had season tickets, my son still does. My 2 girls had season tickets for 5 yrs or more & i have enjoyed taking each of them to away games.We got our tickets through qualifying in our own right on every occassion. I get the feeling some posters don't seem to think its right that kids can get tickets for aways? How does this club build a fan base for the future without kids or are we that selfish. Unluckily for my girls they went when we were S..T. thing i do understand & have a lot of friends who go every game away,take this away from them & they would be lost & that is what some people are struggling with.I myself struggle with the fan that wants just that one game & maybe hasn't even been to a home game!!! Difficult to make this work & make everyone happy.

 

[Tim of the Oak]

Hardly a proper indication. Who were these 3,000 people that voted? Were they all card holders and regular match goers, I suspect not.

Who knows but they are probably match going fans if they are following 1894.

Likewise, there is a groupings of about 20 posters on here who vehemently dislike the changes. I too thought the system worked well but for minor tweaks needed to encourage younger fans and guarantee a plane for less popular away games. That said, I don’t know why 20 or so posters think they speak for the majority of our match going fanbase.

 

[Millwallawayveteran1988]

I think the rule is that around half the allocation can be taken on sale or return basis but if you take the full amount you have to pay for the rest whether sold or not.

Ok seems to make sense

 

[mayo31]

Of course people want to go to the big away games... how is it fair though that thousands of loyal city fans will never be able to go to say united or Liverpool away literally because they were born later

Plenty of die hard blues can’t go to the shitty games on a wedneday night for all sorts of reasons - kids, money, work. It doesn’t make you less of a fan.

Even if you did start going to the unfashionable away games as you say it would take years to even get close. And you’d have to hope fans on 20,000 points stopped going or selling their tickets on

Ian cheesmans videos are a perfect example of that - it’s the same people for all the big games

It could be he just talks to the same people or shows their interviews

He is a bit safe to say the least with who he interviews, but he is not out there to cause a stir as that would be counter productive for him.

Let's see at Wembley or West Ham if he asks the question about tickets

 

[Rhineland]

Sorry, that this is not related to the recent discussion, but I have got a serious question:

Is there a policy or hidden agenda in England to prevent fans from going to away matches?

On 1st of June, Southampton and Cologne announced a pre-season friendly at St. Mary's for the 3rd August, 7 weeks later with only two weeks to go until the match takes place, still no tickets available for the away section. Saints started to sell tickets two weeks ago, but, as probably expected, don't sell tickets for the away section.

Cologne say they are in talks with Southampton, but haven't received any yet, so they couldn't start the sale.

Are they aware that people have to book flights, trains, ferrys or coaches and accomodation at some point? Most obviously did when the match was confirmed by both clubs, but I think a lot more would have come over had there been tickets on sale way earlier. Cologne have been let down by poor allocation in England before.

We got 1.100 for our first round German Cup away match, about 600 got to the away season ticket holders (demand is far higher but they stopped the sale of away season tickets a couple of years ago), the rest of 500 went on sale and sold out in 3 seconds. (We don't have a loyalty points scheme, it's on a rather first come, first served log-in-to-the-website-and-pray-you-get-through-basis lottery)

 

[Paulpowersleftfoot]

The only thing everyone agreed with was the platinum was a disgrace
Now the only way to actually climb the ladder is by the purchase of platinum
City Matters?
Was Diane Abbott in charge of the supporters negotiation team?

 

[The blue phantom]

Its amazing isn't it that the City Matters group which is stacked with Supporter club members want change, as do some poster on here. We can't carry on the way we are regarding Away tickets, something has to give.

Well I'll tell you what sacrifice some of your fuckin tickets which you cream off, everyone else has to move on and accept this shit you've agreed too yet your nice stash of tickets are safe.

Fuckin hypocrites.

 

[i kne albert davy]

If you're talking about the Plymouth game I'm thinking about (weren't we 2 up and then lost 3-2 with Tommy Tynan scoring for them in the Paul Stewart days?), if so, itt was a midweek game, so hardly surprising there weren't many Blues there. A long way to Plymouth for an evening game. I had to take the day off work rent a car and drive down there as I couldn't get a train back.

Didn't get any points for it in those days though :-(

100% a Saturday game mate I stopped over your right about being two up typical city time, I remember they walked us out across the pitch. there weren't many there pity you didn't get points I'd have some points total now. : )

 

[M18CTID]

Well done for being there but plenty more than the 20,000+ pointers stood by City through the dark times otherwise we wouldn't have been getting 28,000 in the third division.

Put it to the club by all means but they'll be aware that 1894 put out a poll which 3000 city fans took part in and the largest number supported the changes. Not definitive but indicative, and if the club want to put it to season ticket holders, I'd be in support of that too. We'll see where it goes.

2609 votes actually and the split was as follows:

Happy with the changes - 37%
Unhappy with the changes - 33%
Not bothered/unsure - 30%

Those percentages show that there is a clear split in opinion, and it would be interesting to see the ages of the people who voted and how they voted. For example, I'm sure plenty of 18-25 year olds would be "happy with the changes", and who can blame them? I know I would be if I was in that age category, but how does a 26 year old with 17000 points feel?

 

[Manc Born & Bred]

Who knows but they are probably match going fans if they are following 1894.

Likewise, there is a groupings of about 20 posters on here who vehemently dislike the changes. I too thought the system worked well but for minor tweaks needed to encourage younger fans and guarantee a plane for less popular away games. That said, I don’t know why 20 or so posters think they speak for the majority of our match going fanbase.

Understand what you are saying but the club thinks that one person on a committee speaks for 40,000 season card holders. I think a lot who follow 1894 via twitter won't be match going fans but may follow the club. This new system is the start of more changes and not for the benefit of the average supporter. The biggest gripes with the allocation have been the corporate support, the amount of tickets that find their way onto reseller sites for inflated fees and the abuse by ticket office staff. The club hasn't addressed any of those issues with this system but have created other issues. 18 - 25 year old fans were at away games in large numbers so how were they getting their tickets previously? Why at games at Klanfield and the Swamp for instance were home fans in the away section and I am not talking about one or two. These are the types of issues that should be addressed first as well as the abuse by supporters clubs that most on here recognise.