Away tickets

JGL07 said:
I don't really feel qualified to comment on this thread as, Wembley matches aside, I have attended three away matches since the Villa Park semi-final v Ipswich in 1981. The first was away to Newcastle when Tevez scored two when I was in the Gallowgate End (don't ask!) and the second was at Norwich in an FA Cup tie in the City support. This final one was at Celtic, when again I was in the home support area.

I am on around 10,000 points. This is likely to be sufficient to get me a ticket for any City match at Wembley and hopefully any Champions League final. So the current system suits me. It's enough of a trek to get to home matches from Edinburgh before thinking about away matches.

However, unless things change, away tickets are likely to get harder to obtain for a lot of away matches. Employing a strict points system is likely to result in City's away support consisting of mostly of pensioners over time. Or do I misunderstand the mechanics of how things work?
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Do you not understand that pensioners don't live forever?
On my coach this season we've had one death, one triple bypass and one (permanent) absentee through general ill health.
Father time will cull many more over the next few seasons.
 
jrb said:
Not complaining. Just noticeable.

I can never workout how kids with their parent/s manage to get away ticket’s.

Can you bequeath your away points to your Grand Children when you pass away?
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No but you could forget to tell the club that granddad died. They would probably get suspicious around his 110th birthday.
 
Alan Harper's Tash said:
Perhaps his role working with the club, vlogging for us gets him in. Like him or not, he does post positive stuff about us in an era where it is unfashionable to do so.
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I know it does, I did put a :) smile thing on the end so people would not take it too seriously. There are far worse hangers on getting tickets.
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GortonBlue62 said:
Do you not understand that pensioners don't live forever?
On my coach this season we've had one death, one triple bypass and one (permanent) absentee through general ill health.
Father time will cull many more over the next few seasons.
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Worth noting that I sit upstairs with the 'youngsters', god knows what the attrition rate was downstairs.
 
GortonBlue62 said:
Do you not understand that pensioners don't live forever?
On my coach this season we've had one death, one triple bypass and one (permanent) absentee through general ill health.
Father time will cull many more over the next few seasons.
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GortonBlue62 said:
Worth noting that I sit upstairs with the 'youngsters', god knows what the attrition rate was downstairs.
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God's waiting room on tour :+)
 
Club had to do something,does seem a bit extreme like but there needs to be a mix of young and old,I see plenty times at aways were camera pans in on City fans,and I think look at state of all the FOC's then to contradict that you see a lad around 19/20 and I think to myself,how the fuck has he got a ticket for there.

The points system was always deemed to eventually fail,fucking no way were some gonna be caught
 
Eds said:
I got chucked out of that Leeds game for suggesting that the few Leeds fans that were there should go forth and multiply as well as suggesting they were born out of wedlock.
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Being there was awesome (in a weird way), but getting thrown out takes the biscuit ;-)
 
liamctid said:
You couldn't be backing up my points more if you tried - you are like many who don't want to put the graft in to get yourself up the ladder because of the "shitty games on a wednesday night" but you want to go to Old Trafford.

As someone against these changes I apologise if sometimes the way we write about this comes across as personal abuse, it's just that those who think these changes are great have no idea the sacrifices we've been through over the years to get to where we are. It's such an emotive subject because if you are in the higher points bracket you have essentially dedicated your life to following City - and as I've said much earlier in the thread, do not get that mixed up with thinking that we believe we're "better" fans or "bigger blues", we all love the club and I sometimes wish I was someone who could just pop into the local and watch an away game on the telly with his mates, but we're wired up differently - not better or bigger - differently.

As I've said, I could just have an I'm alright Jack attitude about this because I will not be caught on my points and I know that if I wanted to I could go to every away game this season. But the points system is important. It is not a closed shop. All games do not sell out at high points. And those of us on high points are not all over 50. It is not a cartel.
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Mate my comment about the ‘shitty games’ was a quote / reference of the poster I was replying to. Maybe should have made that clearer

Would love to put the graft in, but it’s not always possible. Lots have work, family and aren’t able to do newcastle on a Wednesday night. Local games are the only ones I could at times.

I think a lot of games are a closed shop. I’ve mentioned the bigger games, literally impossible for most of our fans to ever get enough points to go to them. I don’t agree on the age point - watch cheesmans videos and you can see the vast majority of attending fans are 50+ years old.

You mention loyal fans and putting the hard work in- my dad went to pretty much every away game in the 70s, 80s and early 90s - stopped because he couldn’t afford it and can now afford it again. Someone with 20+ years of going to away games with no chance whatsoever of going to the bigger games, unless you know someone. Barely any recognition either of the games he’s went too. I wouldn’t say he was less deserving of a ticket.

I completely understand your points and understand the sacrifices you have put in personally. I’m not trying to criticise long standing away fans. I just don’t think the current system works or is fair
 
MaineRoadBlue said:
As much as I praise the loyalty of those that have attended countless always over numerous seasons, we must also concede that the current system of loyalty points will forever reward and opportunise the same limited group of the top 3000 point holders!

On that basis, the point system has now become completely flawed, almost a cartel. We should recognise that and abandon points completely. All away tickets should for all future games be done on 50% advance ballot at 6 weeks prior to the fixture and 50% (after ballot result confirmed) on fastest finger first to ANY Seasoncard holder at 4 weeks prior to the fixture.

In short, regardless of what's gone before, watching away games cannot be exclusive to only those who have done so before.
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I read your first paragraph and thought here is another person posting about the ticket system who knows no very little about it.
In the words of Rafael Benitez

Fact the loyalty points allocation when we receive 3000 tickets is 1800 = 60%

Fact when the allocation is lower that gets cut pro rata , eg Bournemouth 1200 tickets 720 tickets go to the loyalty points holders
Fact, supporters clubs get 20% of the allocation

Fact corporate/ overseas agencies get 15% of the allocation

Fact club staff get 5%

Stop peddling myths about the loyalty points system, we will see in the next couple of days when West Ham sells out at approximately 18/19000 if the points whores are the problem or not.
As there is now no need for them to buy an away ticket as points are no longer issued

I quote the above figure as that would equate to last season 16000/17000 points tally when most of the bigger matches sold out .
 
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Cheshire Blue73 said:
Loads of young lads at away games total myth it is full of older people.
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Don’t agree. If there was loads of young fans attending away games the club wouldn’t be concerned or be introducing an 18- 25 year old ticket option. The main aim to increase the numbers in that age bracket.

It’s a problem in football as a whole at the minute. Most clubs, fans groups Fsf recognise that
 
Cheadle_hulmeBlue said:
Don’t agree. If there was loads of young fans attending away games the club wouldn’t be concerned or be introducing an 18- 25 year old ticket option. The main aim to increase the numbers in that age bracket.

It’s a problem in football as a whole at the minute. Most clubs, fans groups Fsf recognise that
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Trust me I go every game and there is.
 
Cheadle_hulmeBlue said:
Don’t agree. If there was loads of young fans attending away games the club wouldn’t be concerned or be introducing an 18- 25 year old ticket option. The main aim to increase the numbers in that age bracket.

It’s a problem in football as a whole at the minute. Most clubs, fans groups Fsf recognise that
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There are loads of coked up young adults doing their ring a roses in a circle and chucking beer, you can't move on the concourses due to them.
 
Liverpool away in 10 years time




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(only kidding before anyone sees their arse)
 
Cheadle_hulmeBlue said:
Don’t agree. If there was loads of young fans attending away games the club wouldn’t be concerned or be introducing an 18- 25 year old ticket option. The main aim to increase the numbers in that age bracket.

It’s a problem in football as a whole at the minute. Most clubs, fans groups Fsf recognise that
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The club aren't concerned. They've been lead down a path by Kevin Parker and his merry band of men.

Look at photos of bus loads of Blues going ot Brighton back in May. Loads of young lads.

I did 17/19 league aways last year and it may just be a concourse thing, but there always seems to be far more younger lads than old timers
 
didsburyblu said:
Meanwhile as we fight amongst ourselves to get hold of tickets these agencies seem to have no problems.
This took less than a minute to find in total 51 tickets being advertised.
Two of the adverts offering 4 in away end
1 offering 20 and 1 offering 23.
The club however choose not to investigate these mainly because they know damn well where they're coming from in the first place

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That's the biggest piss-take of them all but the club don't give a fuck because all Sorriano sees is £££££££. Hence why we have them embarrassing digital flags.
 
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