Away tickets

What did West Ham sell out at last year? If points whoring is an issue then surely as this isn't a factor anymore then the point that we sell out will be low as those who were buying for points only and then to pass on have no need. If they sell out at a high number then what do we deduce? That the so called points whoring isn't an issue and that the distribution of tickets which stops loyal fans from buying is. And therefore if that is what we can deduce will the club admit they have it badly wrong and whilst I accept there will always be the odd person who will buy and sell without any intention of going the problem lies elsewhere and it's probably a lot nearer to home.
There are 5% less tickets available to points holders and its the opening game of the season, so everyone wants to go. I don't think they are comparable. Whatever Arsenal sold out at is a better comparison, and then add on probably 2k-3k for points acquired during last season and the 5% fewer tickets.
 
There are 5% less tickets available to points holders and its the opening game of the season, so everyone wants to go. I don't think they are comparable. Whatever Arsenal sold out at is a better comparison, and then add on probably 2k-3k for points acquired during last season and the 5% fewer tickets.

There are almost 10% less tickets for points holders. The pot was 60% of the allocation so a 3000 allocation means 1800 tickets for points holders. 150 of those tickets now go to 18-25 year olds and therefore it has reduced the loyalty points allocation by 8.33%.
 
There are almost 10% less tickets for points holders. The pot was 60% of the allocation so a 3000 allocation means 1800 tickets for points holders. 150 of those tickets now go to 18-25 year olds and therefore if has reduced the loyalty points allocation by 8.33%.

Please don't annoy me any more than I actually am........
 
Don’t agree. If there was loads of young fans attending away games the club wouldn’t be concerned or be introducing an 18- 25 year old ticket option. The main aim to increase the numbers in that age bracket.

It’s a problem in football as a whole at the minute. Most clubs, fans groups Fsf recognise that
There are loads of young people at away games
 
There are 5% less tickets available to points holders and its the opening game of the season, so everyone wants to go. I don't think they are comparable. Whatever Arsenal sold out at is a better comparison, and then add on probably 2k-3k for points acquired during last season and the 5% fewer tickets.

Arsenal sold out at 15,500, adding on 2k points for those that miss out on the very high point games, you'd expect W Ham to sell out at 17.5k......
 
Yes, there may have been plenty of younger people at away matches. I'm one of them, but I qualify on my own right. The issue was that many of those you see were buying off other people, hence they never accumulated points to catch up. If the club had not have scrapped away loyalty points, the 18-25 ballot would not have been an issue, as it would have provided the aforementioned an aid so to speak to catch up.
 
What did West Ham sell out at last year? If points whoring is an issue then surely as this isn't a factor anymore then the point that we sell out will be low as those who were buying for points only and then to pass on have no need. If they sell out at a high number then what do we deduce? That the so called points whoring isn't an issue and that the distribution of tickets which stops loyal fans from buying is. And therefore if that is what we can deduce will the club admit they have it badly wrong and whilst I accept there will always be the odd person who will buy and sell without any intention of going the problem lies elsewhere and it's probably a lot nearer to home.

Slightly difficult to compare the two - first game of the season always has more people interested, I didn't go to West Ham last season as it was just before Lyon away.
 

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