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Archery? And what would you do if the French then invaded?johnmc said:Polo
Buzkashi
Indy Car racing
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Archery
Archery? And what would you do if the French then invaded?johnmc said:Polo
Buzkashi
Indy Car racing
Kabaddi
Archery
SWP's back said:Archery? And what would you do if the French then invaded?johnmc said:Polo
Buzkashi
Indy Car racing
Kabaddi
Archery
It is if the sport's governing bodies are not able to sort it out themselves. Which is exactly what I just wrote. As you like to say, it's really not that difficult a concept to get to grips with.SWP's back said:Yes, that's what we need. More legislation.Dubai Blue said:Rarely happens? Sky News have just said that 40 horses have been killed on the Aintree course this year alone. If that figure is true then it is a disgrace.marios stress ball said:Unfortunately for you that rarely happens so stop banging on about a hand full of incidents like they happen all the time.
It's clear that the number of runners and the size of the falls once they go over the fences are both far too big. If they're not willing to sort both of those things out themselves then the government needs to step in and do it for them.
Wow, how very human of you.Dubai Blue said:But I very seriously and very honestly wouldn't give a shit. Much like I couldn't give a shit when an F1 driver, base jumper or lion tamer dies. They know the risks, so, yes, what goes around comes around. They're doing something very dangerous and shit like that happens. People who do things such as that generally don't want anyone's sympathy if it all goes tits up. And they wouldn't get any from me. They die doing something they enjoy and something that they knew could kill them.
I am aware of the concept, I just disagree with your opinion of wanting even more laws forced upon us. I would have thought you'd have understood the sarcastic tone.Dubai Blue said:It is if the sport's governing bodies are not able to sort it out themselves. Which is exactly what I just wrote. As you like to say, it's really not that difficult a concept to get to grips with.SWP's back said:Yes, that's what we need. More legislation.Dubai Blue said:Rarely happens? Sky News have just said that 40 horses have been killed on the Aintree course this year alone. If that figure is true then it is a disgrace.
It's clear that the number of runners and the size of the falls once they go over the fences are both far too big. If they're not willing to sort both of those things out themselves then the government needs to step in and do it for them.
So a soldier doing a very important job that has a potential impact on all of us is directly comparable to a man getting on a horse and jumping over fences for a bit of a laugh?SWP's back said:Wow, how very human of you.Dubai Blue said:But I very seriously and very honestly wouldn't give a shit. Much like I couldn't give a shit when an F1 driver, base jumper or lion tamer dies. They know the risks, so, yes, what goes around comes around. They're doing something very dangerous and shit like that happens. People who do things such as that generally don't want anyone's sympathy if it all goes tits up. And they wouldn't get any from me. They die doing something they enjoy and something that they knew could kill them.
And no doubt why no one should give a shit when soldiers die, they also know the risks.
Dubai Blue said:You describe me as 'warped' and then go on to say 'if you are seriously saying that anyone who rides a horse deserves to die'. Where, anywhere in any of my posts, have I ever said anything even barely resembling what you've just accused me of?nijinsky's fetlocks said:Are you seriously saying that you wouldn't give a shit about the death of a jockey,because in your warped values system of karma they somehow deserved to die for the 'crime' of riding a horse?
'What goes around comes around' does it?
So next time I see some little kiddie at gymkhana take a tumble off a horse when negotiating a fence,just like a jockey does,they clearly deserve to die do they?
Perhaps you would like to inform their parents that 'what goes around comes around' as they are lying in a hospital bed?
Maybe showjumpers deserve to die as well,in your sick world,or polo players,or three day eventers,because they all commit the dreadful offence of riding horses which sometimes lose their lives.
Jockeys do die,both on the flat,and in National Hunt races,not that you would know or care.
I have always respected you as a poster up until now,but if you are seriously saying that anyone who rides a horse deserves to die,and that the life of a horse is as important as that of a human being,then you are simply an idiot.
Yes, I'm seriously saying I wouldn't give a shit if a jockey died. No doubt there'd be a thread on here with hundreds of sheep saying RIP over and over again about someone they've never met, whilst simultaneously blubbering away over what a tragedy it is that someone participating in a very dangerous pursuit has, shock horror, lost their life.
But I very seriously and very honestly wouldn't give a shit. Much like I couldn't give a shit when an F1 driver, base jumper or lion tamer dies. They know the risks, so, yes, what goes around comes around. They're doing something very dangerous and shit like that happens. People who do things such as that generally don't want anyone's sympathy if it all goes tits up. And they wouldn't get any from me. They die doing something they enjoy and something that they knew could kill them.
But that is a long, long, very fucking long way from saying that everyone who rides horses deserves to die.
You need to calm down and give the hyberbole a rest. Honestly, banging on about my 'sick world' and 'warped value system' whilst calling me an 'idiot' really doesn't do your argument any favours at all.
Dubai Blue said:So a soldier doing a very important job that has a potential impact on all of us is directly comparable to a man getting on a horse and jumping over fences for a bit of a laugh?SWP's back said:Wow, how very human of you.Dubai Blue said:But I very seriously and very honestly wouldn't give a shit. Much like I couldn't give a shit when an F1 driver, base jumper or lion tamer dies. They know the risks, so, yes, what goes around comes around. They're doing something very dangerous and shit like that happens. People who do things such as that generally don't want anyone's sympathy if it all goes tits up. And they wouldn't get any from me. They die doing something they enjoy and something that they knew could kill them.
And no doubt why no one should give a shit when soldiers die, they also know the risks.
I didn't make that comparison folks, SWP's back did. And yes, it is a devastatingly insensitive and utterly fucked-up comparison to make.
Dubai Blue said:So a soldier doing a very important job that has a potential impact on all of us is directly comparable to a man getting on a horse and jumping over fences for a bit of a laugh?SWP's back said:Wow, how very human of you.Dubai Blue said:But I very seriously and very honestly wouldn't give a shit. Much like I couldn't give a shit when an F1 driver, base jumper or lion tamer dies. They know the risks, so, yes, what goes around comes around. They're doing something very dangerous and shit like that happens. People who do things such as that generally don't want anyone's sympathy if it all goes tits up. And they wouldn't get any from me. They die doing something they enjoy and something that they knew could kill them.
And no doubt why no one should give a shit when soldiers die, they also know the risks.
I didn't make that comparison folks, SWP's back did. And yes, it is a devastatingly insensitive and utterly fucked-up comparison to make.
I addressed all of these points in my post. People who do essential jobs that benefit wider society deserve our respect when they get injured or die doing those jobs. But racing cars at 200mph, jumping off tall buildings and riding horses over potentially lethal jumps are not essential jobs are they? They're dangerous hobbies that people have chosen to take up because they get a thrill out of that danger, knowing full well that that danger may one day kill them.nijinsky's fetlocks said:Dubai Blue said:You describe me as 'warped' and then go on to say 'if you are seriously saying that anyone who rides a horse deserves to die'. Where, anywhere in any of my posts, have I ever said anything even barely resembling what you've just accused me of?nijinsky's fetlocks said:Are you seriously saying that you wouldn't give a shit about the death of a jockey,because in your warped values system of karma they somehow deserved to die for the 'crime' of riding a horse?
'What goes around comes around' does it?
So next time I see some little kiddie at gymkhana take a tumble off a horse when negotiating a fence,just like a jockey does,they clearly deserve to die do they?
Perhaps you would like to inform their parents that 'what goes around comes around' as they are lying in a hospital bed?
Maybe showjumpers deserve to die as well,in your sick world,or polo players,or three day eventers,because they all commit the dreadful offence of riding horses which sometimes lose their lives.
Jockeys do die,both on the flat,and in National Hunt races,not that you would know or care.
I have always respected you as a poster up until now,but if you are seriously saying that anyone who rides a horse deserves to die,and that the life of a horse is as important as that of a human being,then you are simply an idiot.
Yes, I'm seriously saying I wouldn't give a shit if a jockey died. No doubt there'd be a thread on here with hundreds of sheep saying RIP over and over again about someone they've never met, whilst simultaneously blubbering away over what a tragedy it is that someone participating in a very dangerous pursuit has, shock horror, lost their life.
But I very seriously and very honestly wouldn't give a shit. Much like I couldn't give a shit when an F1 driver, base jumper or lion tamer dies. They know the risks, so, yes, what goes around comes around. They're doing something very dangerous and shit like that happens. People who do things such as that generally don't want anyone's sympathy if it all goes tits up. And they wouldn't get any from me. They die doing something they enjoy and something that they knew could kill them.
But that is a long, long, very fucking long way from saying that everyone who rides horses deserves to die.
You need to calm down and give the hyberbole a rest. Honestly, banging on about my 'sick world' and 'warped value system' whilst calling me an 'idiot' really doesn't do your argument any favours at all.
You didn't address my points at all,did you?
So I shall ask you again.
Most jockeys learn to ride horses,and especially how to ride horses over fences,at gymkhana's.
The horses these children ride sometimes suffer fatalities as,sadly,do a number of the kids riding them.
There is absolutely no difference here between what young kids do,and what jockeys do,other than the height of the fences.
So would it bother you if children died learning to ride a horse over fences?
You have already made it abundantly clear that you don't care about the life of any human being who chooses an occupation with a risk element.
So what about scaffolders?
Or window cleaners?
Or steeplejacks?
Have they also made their career choices and deserve no sympathy when an accident occurs either?
Most occupations contain a 'risk' element.
Even an office worker could get an electric shock off a dodgy photocopier.
You cannot make life completely,100% risk free.
If you don't give a shit about the life of another human being because you don't agree with their choice of career,then you really do need to have a word with yourself.