Banning smoking in beer gardens

BlueMoonRisin’ said:
Because I've already told you that I enjoy smoking and I'm not ready to stop, even if I wanted to. When I next get the feeling I have the willpower to stop I'll go for it.

I've tried vaping but I couldn't stop coughing and I hardly ever cough when smoking. As for mitigating the harm I'm not sure vaping does that, I've heard the vape coughs are called popcorn lung so what harm vaping is doing nobody knows but we'll see in several years what the longterm affects are.

As for poor health I'm 60 years old and I don't need any daily medication. I'm not as fit as I used to be but when I was 50 I had to partake in a strict yearly 'Chester step' medical due to my former job of working at height in mobile telecoms. I was wired up to a monitor that assessed me before during and after exercise and it was quite a vigorous medical but I was fit because of me climbing telecoms structures most work days. The best pass was(is) an A through to F, which is a fail. I got an A 3 years on the trot and the nurse couldn't believe I smoked an average 15 cigarettes a day. She said my lung capacity was that of a non smoker. She also said that my health could soon change and I should consider stopping smoking.

Since then I've stopped twice, first time I did about 10 weeks totally fag free, second time 3 months. I must admit that after about 6 weeks I felt fitter with more energy and was tasting food better and I felt liberated from the shackles of nicotine addiction but I felt I was missing the enjoyment of smoking, especially the first of the day or the one after a meal, or with a pint. And only an ex smoker will understand that.

Have you ever smoked?
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BlueMoonRisin’ said:
You sound like a text book doctor with fuck all experience of nicotine addiction because you can only have that experience if you'd been a regular smoker. But you've tried one cigarette and are a self appointed expert in smoking, it's addiction and risks to health, and a vaping expert.

I know smoking is harmful, I know I could get lung cancer. But smoking is highly addictive and your Coca cola analogy is way off the mark in comparison.
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And yet you keep doing it. Why not just put things in place and then quit, stopping kicking the can down the road.
 
BlueMoonRisin’ said:
Because stopping smoking is not easy, and I've already explained that several times. I think you're just winding me up.
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Well you aren't even trying so yes it's going to be difficult. You don't lose anything from trying.

If I wanted to wind you up I'd be less polite.

BlueMoonRisin’ said:
I've been told you're a fat **** so if you are may I recommend you some salad.
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Lol.
 
Mr Kobayashi said:
Well you aren't even trying so yes it's going to be difficult. You don't lose anything from trying.

If I wanted to wind you up I'd be less polite.



Lol.
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You're not getting what I'm saying so I'll let Siouxsie explain...



It's just a habit when I reach to the packet
For my last cigarette, until the day breaks
Then my hand shakes
But, but, but, but, but, but
It's just driving me insane
When the smoke gets in my brain I can't resist it
Wallow in that ash bath
Soaking up the fumes
And see the nicotine stain
Start to spread
I'm so congested 'cause north, south, east and west
Catarrh rests on my chest, congealed and twisted
Cough up and shift it
But I can feel my lungs collapse
Sinking deep into my lap
I'm so useless
Wallow in that ash bath
Soaking up the fumes
And see the nicotine stain
Start to spread
I'm so useful if you don't want to fight
Just give your foe a fright
Say you'll drop me on every country
See, see, see, see
All will be stone dead
When the nicotine stain spreads
Just light me
Wallow in that ash bath
Soaking up the fumes
And see the nicotine stain
Start to spread
It's in my hand
It's in my hand
N-n-nicotine spread
Nicotine stain
 
Looks like I picked the right time to move abroad ;-)

As a sometime smoker, sometime vaper, sometimes quitter, I must admit that when smoking/vaping outdoors but in close proximity to others, I will always ask if they mind. Nobody has ever said yes before but if they did, I would move to a place where my habit wouldn't affect them.
 
BlueMoonRisin’ said:
You're not getting what I'm saying so I'll let Siouxsie explain...



It's just a habit when I reach to the packet
For my last cigarette, until the day breaks
Then my hand shakes
But, but, but, but, but, but
It's just driving me insane
When the smoke gets in my brain I can't resist it
Wallow in that ash bath
Soaking up the fumes
And see the nicotine stain
Start to spread
I'm so congested 'cause north, south, east and west
Catarrh rests on my chest, congealed and twisted
Cough up and shift it
But I can feel my lungs collapse
Sinking deep into my lap
I'm so useless
Wallow in that ash bath
Soaking up the fumes
And see the nicotine stain
Start to spread
I'm so useful if you don't want to fight
Just give your foe a fright
Say you'll drop me on every country
See, see, see, see
All will be stone dead
When the nicotine stain spreads
Just light me
Wallow in that ash bath
Soaking up the fumes
And see the nicotine stain
Start to spread
It's in my hand
It's in my hand
N-n-nicotine spread
Nicotine stain
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Is that the music you're going out to?
 
BlueMoonRisin’ said:
You're not getting what I'm saying so I'll let Siouxsie explain...



It's just a habit when I reach to the packet
For my last cigarette, until the day breaks
Then my hand shakes
But, but, but, but, but, but
It's just driving me insane
When the smoke gets in my brain I can't resist it
Wallow in that ash bath
Soaking up the fumes
And see the nicotine stain
Start to spread
I'm so congested 'cause north, south, east and west
Catarrh rests on my chest, congealed and twisted
Cough up and shift it
But I can feel my lungs collapse
Sinking deep into my lap
I'm so useless
Wallow in that ash bath
Soaking up the fumes
And see the nicotine stain
Start to spread
I'm so useful if you don't want to fight
Just give your foe a fright
Say you'll drop me on every country
See, see, see, see
All will be stone dead
When the nicotine stain spreads
Just light me
Wallow in that ash bath
Soaking up the fumes
And see the nicotine stain
Start to spread
It's in my hand
It's in my hand
N-n-nicotine spread
Nicotine stain
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Christ!
Is that what it does to your voice?
Shocking!
 
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