I have been clear with this many times, I never said that was the reason they thrived. I said they thrived despite of it, not because of it. Read it back! See the bit about the vegan saussage ffs. Churchtown twisted that and stayed hung up on it even after I pointed that out. Against all the doommongering and warnings, pubs continued to thrive, after the smoking ban.
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Banning smoking in beer gardens
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I have been clear with this many times, I never said that was the reason they thrived. I said they thrived despite of it, not because of it. Read it back! See the bit about the vegan saussage ffs. Churchtown twisted that and stayed hung up on it even after I pointed that out. Against all the doommongering and warnings, pubs continued to thrive, after the smoking ban.
Mr Kobayashi
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If you genuinely think the police will enforce so be it, regards your second paragraph everyone is entitled to opinion but the 2 landlords I know don't agree with you
Do the police routinely wander around enforcing the indoor ban at the moment?
Ah right. So the smoking ban was definitely the reason some pubs thrived, but definitely not why some closed.
And yes, that is entirely possible.
Not what I was arguing, mind you.
Well if you find the data for that, let us know.And yes, that is entirely possible.
Not what I was arguing, mind you.
Well if you find the data for that, let us know.
Right ok, that's what you chose to bicker about. Seems a bit in bad faith.
BlueMoonRisin’
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I'm bored with this argument and there's nothing more to nitpick.
Trevor Morley's Tache
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Let's face it, if smoking tobacco was a new invention it would be banned altogether due to how much it fucks you up.
Bicker? Ha.Right ok, that's what you chose to bicker about. Seems a bit in bad faith.
hilts
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You're lucky though this fruit smell allergy that has soared like a pandemic amongst non smokers and non vapers obviously doesn't affect you.My favourite part of this thread is the people who have never smoked in their lives telling us with 100% certainty vapes will end up being worse than cigarettes. Especially loved the anecdote about someone's mate who was a long term smoker then developed COPD after a few months on the vapes. Of course the 40 years of smoking had nothing to do with it.
Nicotine is addictive as fuck, I smoked from 14 until 28 and only stopped with the help of vapes.
Maybe they will cause super bollock cancer down the line, but I've stopped coughing up black shit every morning, don't have a blocked nose and sore throat all the time, my athletic performance has improved markedly and my clothes and breath smell miles better.
Don't drink so don't really go in pubs anymore but I think people have a right to a beer and a fucking cig if that's what they want to do.
Double the tax on fat bastards and people who spend all day sat at a computer doing jack shit aswell, they put just as much of a strain on the NHS.
#helpitsmellsjustlikejelly
I'm bored with this argument and there's nothing more to nitpick.
Out of interest, if the legislation came only in its proposed entirety, would you still be against it?
Same question for everyone against this.