Baseless speculation Iheanacho/Bony

[Father Paul]

I reckon they're putting bony on to put him in the shop window and they know kelechi's potential and quality and be will be here a while.

Any potential bidders will be put off with the state of bony atm although I can see him going to West Ham etc and scoring 25 goals a season again.

Just don't buy this shop window crap at all. Why would you play an inferior player ahead of another just to get an extra million or two when it risks drawing or losing games which could cost the club tens of millions? It makes no sense. Peller just thinks Bony is a better option for what ever reason which we could speculate all day and night about

 

[Father Paul]

Your third paragraph makes some sense of the situation. I'd add that Kelechi is being saved for the biggest games...including next Tuesday. He really is very good.

No evidence that he is being saved for any games at all at present. Indeed a case could be made now that because he has had so little game time in recent weeks Bony is probably a better option.

 

[jaiguruKun]

It could simply be that given the investment that has been made in Bony, the club is still hoping things will click for him before writing him off and making a huge loss then having to spend even more money on a new striker.

 

[IWasHere]

He's not even a homeless man's Dzeko. I had to Google when he scored last and it was Dec. 26.

I'm sure Kelechi has scored more goals than him

 

[SkyBlueTX]

^^^Is correct.

Bony stats for 2015/2016:

2 goals in CL in 279 minutes played;
4 goals in PL in 1032 minutes played (fuck me!);
2 goals in League Cup, minutes played not available.
Excluding LC that's a goal per 218.5 minute pace.

Kelechi:

9 goals in all comps, 3 in 425 minutes in PL.

Source: whoscored.com

 

[sir baconface]

I can only think of three likely explanations:
- He genuinely thinks Bony is the better option, or
- Bony was given a promise or half-promise, or
- Ian has done or said something naughty behind the scenes.

Being pig-headed for its own sake doesn't make any sense to me. Nor does the shop window theory. The latter would be a strange tactic for someone with only a short time in office.

 

[ono]

He has probably promised Bony a certain amount of game time. He doesn't like breaking his promises apparently. He'd rather lose than do so.

 

[jaiguruKun]

He has probably promised Bony a certain amount of game time. He doesn't like breaking his promises apparently. He'd rather lose than do so.

I can understand him making promises to Willy for the Cup comps given their history together and the fact he has to spend 9/10ths of the season sat on the bench. I doubt that he has made promises like that to Bony or other players. I've noticed that he hasn't been asked about his ignoring of Kelechi in any of his press conferences. Probably because the press know he'd just deflect the question by making everyone fall asleep like he usually does.

 

[GaudinoMotors]

Baseless speculation? On here?

 

[sir baconface]

I can understand him making promises to Willy for the Cup comps given their history together and the fact he has to spend 9/10ths of the season sat on the bench. I doubt that he has made promises like that to Bony or other players. I've noticed that he hasn't been asked about his ignoring of Kelechi in any of his press conferences. Probably because the press know he'd just deflect the question by making everyone fall asleep like he usually does.

I beg to differ on this. I believe it is plausible as an inducement for Bony to sign in the first place. Bony may well have pressed Pellers hard in the knowledge that Kun would always be numero uno.

Hard to believe it now, but Bony actually had a negotiating hand at that point in time.

 

[SkyBlueTX]

Shop window theory:

 

[bobmcfc]

Shop window theory:

We couldn't give that fucking lump away for free

 

[ono]

I can understand him making promises to Willy for the Cup comps given their history together and the fact he has to spend 9/10ths of the season sat on the bench. I doubt that he has made promises like that to Bony or other players. I've noticed that he hasn't been asked about his ignoring of Kelechi in any of his press conferences. Probably because the press know he'd just deflect the question by making everyone fall asleep like he usually does.

I think Bony must have had some sort of assurance that he would have been given a certain amount of game time before signing. I can't think of any other reason why he plays ahead of Kelechi.

 

[buckshot]

I think Bony must have had some sort of assurance that he would have been given a certain amount of game time before signing. I can't think of any other reason why he plays ahead of Kelechi.

If this is true then MP should be fired along with anybody else who made such a promise. City can't continue to field weakened sides because of some stupid promise, playing time needs to be awarded based on what's best for the team.

 

[ono]

If this is true then MP should be fired along with anybody else who made such a promise. City can't continue to field weakened sides because of some stupid promise, playing time needs to be awarded based on what's best for the team.

I literally can't think of any other reason for it.

 

[Tricky_Trev]

I literally can't think of any other reason for it.

The reason is because Bony cost more. Selection by price tag.

 

[domalino]

The reason is because Bony cost more. Selection by price tag.

That must be why he's picking £7m Clichy over £20m Kolarov, and £6m Willy over £100k Hart, and why £6m Kompany can never get a start, or free Sagna.

If this is true then MP should be fired along with anybody else who made such a promise. City can't continue to field weakened sides because of some stupid promise, playing time needs to be awarded based on what's best for the team.

I literally can't think of any other reason for it.

It's much more likely to be this -

Pellegrini would have identified Bony as a target and asked Txiki to go get him. He obviously liked him before he even arrived and thought he'd fit the team. Now he's trying to make it work, to justify why he bought him in the first place and also because Bony was not a shit player, but he's clearly lost all form and confidence - any decent manager would try to get their player out of a slump, it's why successive Chelsea managers tried and tried with Torres.

I also wouldn't be surprised if Bony was much better in training and was just shitting the bed in games when the pressure of his awful City career is on him. You can see every time he comes on, he's got a monkey on his back, and every poor touch or sliced shot just weighs him down even more.

 

[dadnlad]

How close is Bony to Yaya? Upsetting Yaya we know is something Pellers is wary of, we do actually need Yaya to be at his best more than ever right now.

nail on head I think that's reason why we bought him to keep yaya happy

 

[neilsonblue]

nail on head I think that's reason why we bought him to keep yaya happy

Not sure about that. Wasn't Yaya critical of Bony's fitness and physique in the period after the African Nations Championship?

 

[ono]

That must be why he's picking £7m Clichy over £20m Kolarov, and £6m Willy over £100k Hart, and why £6m Kompany can never get a start, or free Sagna.






It's much more likely to be this -

Pellegrini would have identified Bony as a target and asked Txiki to go get him. He obviously liked him before he even arrived and thought he'd fit the team. Now he's trying to make it work, to justify why he bought him in the first place and also because Bony was not a shit player, but he's clearly lost all form and confidence - any decent manager would try to get their player out of a slump, it's why successive Chelsea managers tried and tried with Torres.

I also wouldn't be surprised if Bony was much better in training and was just shitting the bed in games when the pressure of his awful City career is on him. You can see every time he comes on, he's got a monkey on his back, and every poor touch or sliced shot just weighs him down even more.

He's got a better slice than Pete Sampras.

And more slices than Domino's