Bayern Munich vs. City Post-Match Discussion Thread

[George Hannah]

Marvellous tonic, well done City! Play like we did in the first half against Milan and in the second half like we did tonight and we'll be unstoppable.

 

[East Level 2]

Some positives to be taken from that but German ref and German opponents in Germany didn't help. Some pundits are demonstrating their lack of understanding regarding the handball law and they certainly couldn't see sitting back and absorbing pressure as a valid tactic even though most of the Scouse clowns have watched (or played) it for years.
It might be Bayern's 12th pre-season game and only our sixth but not sure how relevant that is as it appears we're settling for seven games anyway.
And we can't complain because Bayern are the champions of Europe. - Don't mention that 12 months ago we beat the then champions of Europe in the Charity Shield.

Yea but Bayern won the CL in a much more impressive way than Chelsea. Bayern is clearly superior to the Chelsea of last season.

Cool, that's OK then. And Chelsea were lucky of course, it's in the rules to remind everybody of that.

 

[OB1]

It was a blatant penalty. Surely anyone would say if their side wasn't given that they'd be on the barricades !

A good game, Kompany was immense for City (German tv gave him Man of the Match), Müller was class for us. I thought we deserved to win, we looked sharp first half, but the result was irrelevant, it was a good test against a good side and we look as though we'll be ready when the season starts.

how can it be a blatant penalty he wasnt even looking at the ball

What does his hand have to do in the air when the ball is in the air. That is a penalty that would have been given in any Bundesliga match and probably in every CL match (if the referee would have seen it and the opponent would not be Barca...)

We had 2 penalties given against us when Boateng turned himself a little and his arm was straight down his body. He cannot cut it away.

It is nothing to discuss long about. The hand was not in a position it should be. It touched the ball. It was in the box. Penalty.

I though Starke did a very good job. I have seen a lot bad referreeing in the recent year especially in the international matches - and this was a good one. I think he got all offsides right - there were one or two of Bayern that were very close. Nasri's knee was clear offside.

Someone has actually posted the rule on this thread and you still come out with all that! Do you understand what deliberate means?

The ref got it wrong.

 

[pudge]

If you learned the rules first then maybe you could pass judgement on them

You all know bloody well you would have been screaming for a pen if it was the other way round. It was a penalty, every time.

Would that automatically make it a penalty??

 

[Deleted member 52846]

If you learned the rules first then maybe you could pass judgement on them

You all know bloody well you would have been screaming for a pen if it was the other way round. It was a penalty, every time.

It's a penalty in the climate where referees have been giving free kicks and penalties for those types of handballs, yes. It's like people have been trained into thinking "that must be handball because it's always given" but it isn't and it shouldn't be.

If the refs are to continue to give these as handball, then the laws of the game must change.<br /><br />-- Thu Aug 01, 2013 10:37 pm --<br /><br />

Some positives to be taken from that but German ref and German opponents in Germany didn't help. Some pundits are demonstrating their lack of understanding regarding the handball law and they certainly couldn't see sitting back and absorbing pressure as a valid tactic even though most of the Scouse clowns have watched (or played) it for years.
It might be Bayern's 12th pre-season game and only our sixth but not sure how relevant that is as it appears we're settling for seven games anyway.
And we can't complain because Bayern are the champions of Europe. - Don't mention that 12 months ago we beat the then champions of Europe in the Charity Shield.

Yea but Bayern won the CL in a much more impressive way than Chelsea. Bayern is clearly superior to the Chelsea of last season.

Cool, that's OK then. And Chelsea were lucky of course, it's in the rules to remind everybody of that.

No such thing as luck.

 

[Maldeika]

First comments on the decisions.

For me it was a pen. The rules say the handball has to be deliberate, but this does not mean you have to be trying to handle the ball. If your arm is in an unnatural position then the pen can be given. I would have given a pen every time for that.

Milner's tackle on Robben was a good tackle and should never have been a foul.

Boyota's tackle was a foul and a yellow card. In this day and age you are not allowed to come in from behind whether you win the ball or not.

Nasri was probably fractionally offside, but it was an unlucky decision.

As for City they looked good. They have bough well and Jovetic is going to be class. Kompany solid at the back and if the first choice midfield was there it would have been fine. Like Last year though, I think you have TOO MANY top strikers and they are not going to get enough games, which means they won't be as sharp as they should be. I don't see the point of buying Negredo when you had Dzeko, Jovetic and Aguero to play as the main man.

As for Bayern, I think they should be very worried with Pep's plans. Lahm is arguably the best crosser of the ball in the world, but instead of bombing down the right to provide an overlap he was virtually playing in the middle.

Muller is class, but he is not a central striker. He was wasted as the 'false 9' and only came into his own in the second half.

Playing Thiago is just pointless and he should be dropped for a more creative player.

What more does Shaqiri have to do, to get a starting spot?

Martinez is too slow and not comfortable at centre back. With the high line Bayern will be exposed.

Bayern are just like Barcelona without Messi, City had key players missing and should have won this match. This is worrying, because City are not as far along their preaseason.

When the opponent parks the bus like City did the first half you need Müller and a striker. It did not look different yesterday in the first half with Pizarro - even less fluid. The mechanisms have to work better, too - but that is just the beginning. Müller with Mandzukic and their interchanging worked always very well in the box - now it is others and more persons that have to act, too. Problem is that you loose all the fluidity and a lot of the danger when you put out Müller - but somehow an additional striker comes handy, too. But then Guardiola has to pull out somebody else.

Martinez and Dante played together the second time after yesterday - and yesterday they did not have any problems. They both are new in training, too. But in my eyes Boateng has to play when you play with such a high line.

Pep's plans are ok. The matches in the CL were much more open than they have been in the first half and how they are in the Bundesliga. The opponents usually park the bus and are well organized. We are keeping the wing play but in the test matches you have seen a lot playing through the middle, too. But everything takes time.

Shaqiri can be very sloppy with the ball - than he looses a lot balls in difficult situations. And he is not really good in tracking back or does not have the overview over the match too much. Actually - he is best when substituted in. I seldom have seen a very good match when he played from the start. But yes, his offensive actions are very good. But - there is Ribery, Robben, Müller, Kroos, Thiago and soon Götze...

Thiago showed very good beginnings. You need to give him time, too.

 

[spongebob123]

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Come a long way has the handball rule...

 

[oakiecokie]

Can't believe people are debating the penalty decision.

99 times out a 100 that's going to be given. His arm was in an unnatural position and wafted the ball out of play. It's a penalty according to all the rules as commonly interpreted. It is why, week in and week out, you do see defenders with there arms lowered and hardly ever see arms flapping about above head height. Defenders don't do that because, intentional or not, if there is ball-hand contact and the hand is raised, it's going to be a penalty.

Well you might as well make it a hat trick of shit comments towards City.Go on whats next ??

 

[SiMCFC]

The exciting thing for me is that in 2 days Pellegrini has shown 2 totally different playing styles which we have never done before under Mancini, the players seemed organised, i'm just getting more and more excited for the new season now

What a headache Pellegrini is going to have picking a team haha

 

[spacecadet]

rummenigge win at all costs mentaility , dodgy penalty and the german keeper wasting time at the end of the game to win a FRIENDLY. We never looked like conceding until the ref decided to please the home crowd with a gift , Bayern absoluteley toothless up front and they start their season in a week , where as we could have had at least 6 goals tonight , and nearly 3 weeks away from full fitness
Milner man of match , superb performance , our strikers will only get sharper and dzeko and negredo will score a hatful this season , Pellegrini proved his tactical knowledge and but for some poor finishing we would have hammered the european champs on their own patch , cant wait for the geordies in a couple of weeks

Not far off the truth, they shit themselves, a week before the start of their new season.