Bellamy's been banned from the club

Didsbury Dave said:
scottyboi said:
What's this good authority then Dave?

A source who has been pretty much impeccable in the info he has given me for the last year or so.

One who's name most on here will know.
Why does Bluecreed never tell me stuff? ;)
 
tolmie's hairdoo said:
Didsbury Dave said:
I've nor defended Bellamy's behaviour at all. His biggest mistake was his comment about Moyes and Mancini after that game, in my opinion.

In isolation I'm happy to accept this is a gobby player having his say.

But it isn't in isolation, is it? The grumblings and negativity have been an undercurrent for months now.

What's important is that come the end of August when the dust settles the team unite and fight as one. A good manager shold use the bad press as a motivator.


I agree about the negativity being used as a motivator.

But you cannot motivate somebody who does not want to be motivated, whatever the public soundbites might be.

The reason Mancini and the club are doing what they are, is to ensure, as you say, that the dust will be settled once and for all when the window shuts.

You have to let the manager, manage.

I personally believe he is doing this with one hand behind his back at present.

His support work needs to be stronger 'upstairs' forget Cook and Marwood.

This where Khaldoon needs to be stepping in, if he is not already doing so.


The bit in bold I'm thinking, "key to it all" and hope your right
 
scottyboi said:
Didsbury Dave said:
A source who has been pretty much impeccable in the info he has given me for the last year or so.

One who's name most on here will know.

So how come in his first interview he said ' we will be challenging for the league in 18 months time'?
Its a strange one I know that. Still believe the press manipulated his very weak English.
With you on that 100 percent as I recall GC interjected the line of questioning being put to Bobby and cleared up the contract length issue but the press chose to ignore it and go with Bobby saying "6 months then 3 years". But then this has been gone over many times on here.
 
scottyboi said:
Didsbury Dave said:
A source who has been pretty much impeccable in the info he has given me for the last year or so.

One who's name most on here will know.

So how come in his first interview he said ' we will be challenging for the league in 18 months time'?
Its a strange one I know that. Still believe the press manipulated his very weak English.

Honestly mate, he offered himself for 6 months and said he believed he could get us top 4 in that time. He knew of the club's dialogue with Jose and was prepared to work on that basis. The club made the decision to extend his contract and give him a proper one, as they had promised, just before the end of the season.
 
Keith Moon said:
Out of the blue and into the black
You pay for this, but they give you that
And once you're gone, you can't come back
When you're out of the blue and into the black.
My, my!
 
Didsbury Dave said:
Lancet Fluke said:
I know that was part of the issue but I was under the impression that behind the scenes it was accepted that his appointment was by no means permanent and options were being left open.

It was. It was nothing to do with his English.

It was the nature of his appointment.

I was told on good authority that he offered himself on that basis (6 month trial), so you can't feel too sorry for him.

You can ask questions of the club hierarchy for appointing him in those circumstances, of course. Would it have better to have been honest about the 6 months? Or would that have undermined him even more?

Seeing as the club to an extent don't mind hemorrhaging money, they should have just taken him on as if he was the permanent boss and if by any miracle Mourinho had been available to us in the summer just sacked Mancnini and paid him off, assuming they would have preferred Mourinho. The manager is the most important member of staff at the club imo and hiring a "dead man walking" from the very start was ridiculous. We will potentially lose a lot more money in the long term because of that decision than the money they would have potentially written off by paying out Mancini's full contract. Mancini may have misguidedly agreed to the circumstances but I still sympathise greatly with him.
 
It has gone too far.

Bellamy has been playing up since the final two weeks of the season.

An agitator, yes. A clever one, even more so.

I think Dids Dave, I know where you are coming from, mate.

But you need to separate your justified gripes about Stevie Ireland, and how others are behaving.

Despite all the shit, Ireland has kept mum. The same can't be said for others, especially in terms of trying to undermine the manager.

The 25-players rule may be crazy, but it afford a club as wealthy as ourselves, tremendous power.

The boot is on the other foot for a change and it exactly right to be aimed up particular arses.

This is exactly the point and what many seem to be missing. Ireland has kept his mouth shut. He has kept his dignity. Therfore he has kept the love of the fans and if he does go he goes with our best wishes and thanks. He has kept his reputation.

Bellamy is just a prick he always has been. I think people seem to forget he pulled the EXACT same shit at Newcastle at West Ham. Like us Newcastle had to loan him out to Celtic when he fell out with the manager big time and Alan Shearer. He was causing massive problems up there as well which is why they got rid asap. You ask the Newcastle and West Ham fans what they think of Craig Bellamy.

What we are seing here is the same as has happened at near enough every club Bellamy has played for and hes had what 8 clubs.

You cant defend the indefensable, Bellamy is a trouble causing posion he been trying to force a move to Spurs from the end of last season. He has to go as soon as possible. But obviously not to spurs. Fulham, Celtic, Cardiff - great prefer a permanent deal get it sorted oince and for all and he can never be spoken of again.
 
Kirkstall Blue said:
tolmie's hairdoo said:
I agree about the negativity being used as a motivator.

But you cannot motivate somebody who does not want to be motivated, whatever the public soundbites might be.

The reason Mancini and the club are doing what they are, is to ensure, as you say, that the dust will be settled once and for all when the window shuts.

You have to let the manager, manage.

I personally believe he is doing this with one hand behind his back at present.

His support work needs to be stronger 'upstairs' forget Cook and Marwood.

This where Khaldoon needs to be stepping in, if he is not already doing so.


The bit in bold I'm thinking, "key to it all" and hope your right


Khaldoon is the eyes and ears of our owner/ADUG.

However, I appreciate he is a very busy individual and is happy to delegate to messrs Cook and Marwood.

Marwood appears to be the buffer zone between the players and the manager.

It was felt his expertise was required when Hughes was at the helm.

The height of hypocrisy now, from some, especially Bellamy, who accuse Mancini of a lack of communication.

However, footballers will always take a mile if they feel they can. Marwood is an ex pro, players perhaps have a pre-conceived impression of him.

They do not know Khaldoon and I think fear has to come to the fore here. It is Sheik Mansour's investment he is supposed to be guarding.

These unruly influences are a threat to that. Let's see these guys argue the toss with a different figurehead in front of them...

Sheikh Mansour's direct right-hand man was made a director without much fanfare end of last season.

I do not know his name, but I was told he is all about making businesses run to their maximum.
 

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