Bellamy's been banned from the club

Didsbury Dave said:
TheLegendOfBerti said:
Fergie was on the verge of the sack after what...4 years?

My point is not if continually for 3 years we don't do well, but in 6 months we're not in the top 4 some people on here(who seem to conjugate on the same threads to post their unwavering opinion) will want him out, when I believe 6 months isn't a fair amount of time, especially when an unproven manager in Hughes got 18 months.

Well he's had six months and didn't hit his target. So in another 6 months it'll be a year.

But by Christmas if we're not in the top 4, questions will be asked.

If we're 5th, improving and looking good for a storming finish thn I think he'll be given the rest of the season. If we're 10 points off 4th, I think he'll be history.

Your use of "conjugate" is one of the wierdest uses of English I think I've ever seen, by the way.
sorry i meant congregate lol.
 
M18CTID said:
TheLegendOfBerti said:
Fergie was on the verge of the sack after what...4 years?

My point is not if continually for 3 years we don't do well, but in 6 months we're not in the top 4 some people on here(who seem to conjugate on the same threads to post their unwavering opinion) will want him out, when I believe 6 months isn't a fair amount of time, especially when an unproven manager in Hughes got 18 months.

With reference to what DD was saying, I can understand his reasoning behind Arsenal sticking with Wenger because he won the double in his first full season.

As for Ferguson though, you're spot on - he didn't win a trophy until his third full season. His first full season (87-88) saw them finish second behind an outstanding Liverpool side so it was fair enough that he bought some time for himself. However, they finished mid-table the following term (88-89) despite spending a lot of money.

They spent even more money in the summer of 1989 and seemed to get even worse again, finishing one place ahead of us in 13th. However, while their league form was largely crap and they were even still in with an outside chance of going down with a few games to go (incredibly Sheffield Wednesday beat them sometime in March 1990 to go well clear of the Rags, us, and everybody else in the relegation dogfight yet contrived to lose every game from thereon in IIRC and went down on the final day), they somehow managed to win the FA Cup which saved Ferguson's bacon (pardon the pun!) and the rest is history.

The point I'm making in all of this though and it's kind of backing up what you said, is that from the opening day of the 1988-1989 season until the final day of the 1989-1990 season the Rags' league form was consistently lower/mid-table. That's 2 full seasons of abject league form. They could've easily sacked him at Christmas 1989 - before they embarked on that FA Cup run - for the poor form of the past season and a half but instead of giving most of the United fans what they wanted Edwards and the board stuck with him.

As I remember many Rag fans wanted sluralex gone that 3rd season.

If only !!!
 
if you keep last year's team. and buy a Drogba, or a ibra, and a Gallas, then if you are not among the top four in December you are off the road.
but if , in agreement with the board , you buy :

Balotelli, 20 years
Boateng, 22 years
Kolarov, 24 years
Silva, 24 years
Milner, 24 years
Yaya Toure , 27 years

Clearly then you are on a building project.

and if I have to think that the board give you four months to get results from the construction of a project based on young people is just me laughing.

I really do not know how anyone could even only believe , and write , a crap like that
 
Didsbury Dave said:
flb said:
Was there any need for Bellamy doing a tv interview questioning how Mancini manages and motivates his team-Mancini quickly came out to deny that he hasnt stroked his buttocks for 6 months so therefore undermining the manager means Bellamy is out on his ear.

No there wasn't and he shouldn't have done it.

But my point is the situation could perhaps have been managed differently, to ensure this didn't happen.
So DD, you're at work. You've got a project on the go which if successful lands you a nice proomotion. One of your team works his socks off for you, but doesn't like the methods you use to achieve your results.

He then goes running off to any Tom, Dick and Harry telling them as much and not hiding his dislike of you.

The project you are working on fails at the last moment and your 'oppo' goes to your nearest rival in work for that promotion and gives them a big 'high 5'.

Tell me how you'd manage that situation differently?

I love Bellers, he's always appeared to give 100% on the pitch for us. However, he is patholigically disposed to seeing just how far he can push things before they break. Sadly for him, he just doesn't seem to know, realise or care when things have broken and that there actually may be some responsibility for him to take in there.
 
Mancio said:
if you keep last year's team. and buy a Drogba, or a ibra, and a Gallas, then if you are not among the top four in December you are off the road.
but if , in agreement with the board , you buy :

Balotelli, 20 years
Boateng, 22 years
Kolarov, 24 years
Silva, 24 years
Milner, 24 years
Yaya Toure , 27 years

Clearly then you are on a building project.

and if I have to think that the board give you four months to get results from the construction of a project based on young people is just me laughing.

I really do not know how anyone could even only believe , and write , a crap like that

I agree.

Has been said on another thread that Bob has unequivocal backing for the next 2 years, heresay of course, however it would make sense to me.
 
zeven said:
Didsbury Dave said:
Yep, it's more mismanagement at the top, no doubt.

It's easy to blame Cook because he comes across as a buffoon, but I think you touch upon an interesting topic.

Is Khaldoon the right man for the top job?
What the fuck is wronhg with you guys?
Seriously some in here need to gear down..
I think it's a fair enough point. Khaldoon is simply too busy with other stuff over here to devote enough of his time to overseeing things at City. DD isn't criticsing him, he's just wondering if his situation In Abu Dhabi is preventing him from taking on the role at City to the extent that it perhaps needs to be.

In reality, City are way down Khaldoon's list of priorities. Maybe we need someone who can devote their whole working week to the club. Or maybe we don't. But there's nothing wrong with asking the question.
 
Dubai Blue said:
zeven said:
What the fuck is wronhg with you guys?
Seriously some in here need to gear down..
I think it's a fair enough point. Khaldoon is simply too busy with other stuff over here to devote enough of his time to overseeing things at City. DD isn't criticsing him, he's just wondering if his situation In Abu Dhabi is preventing him from taking on the role at City to the extent that it perhaps needs to be.

In reality, City are way down Khaldoon's list of priorities. Maybe we need someone who can devote their whole working week to the club. Or maybe we don't. But there's nothing wrong with asking the question.

Thanks for seeing it for what it is, DB.

Should I start a new thread on it or will world war three break out?
 
Dubai Blue said:
zeven said:
What the fuck is wronhg with you guys?
Seriously some in here need to gear down..
I think it's a fair enough point. Khaldoon is simply too busy with other stuff over here to devote enough of his time to overseeing things at City. DD isn't criticsing him, he's just wondering if his situation In Abu Dhabi is preventing him from taking on the role at City to the extent that it perhaps needs to be.

In reality, City are way down Khaldoon's list of priorities. Maybe we need someone who can devote their whole working week to the club. Or maybe we don't. But there's nothing wrong with asking the question.
That's what Cook is for though, at the end of the day despite his "official" role, he is basicly the day to day chairmen of the club.
 
Didsbury Dave said:
Dubai Blue said:
I think it's a fair enough point. Khaldoon is simply too busy with other stuff over here to devote enough of his time to overseeing things at City. DD isn't criticsing him, he's just wondering if his situation In Abu Dhabi is preventing him from taking on the role at City to the extent that it perhaps needs to be.

In reality, City are way down Khaldoon's list of priorities. Maybe we need someone who can devote their whole working week to the club. Or maybe we don't. But there's nothing wrong with asking the question.

Thanks for seeing it for what it is, DB.

Should I start a new thread on it or will world war three break out?

i promise i won't look lol ;)
 
Didsbury Dave said:
Dubai Blue said:
I think it's a fair enough point. Khaldoon is simply too busy with other stuff over here to devote enough of his time to overseeing things at City. DD isn't criticsing him, he's just wondering if his situation In Abu Dhabi is preventing him from taking on the role at City to the extent that it perhaps needs to be.

In reality, City are way down Khaldoon's list of priorities. Maybe we need someone who can devote their whole working week to the club. Or maybe we don't. But there's nothing wrong with asking the question.

Thanks for seeing it for what it is, DB.

Should I start a new thread on it or will world war three break out?
I think you know the answer to that. Criticism of ADUG, no matter how constructive it may be, just isn't allowed.
 

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