Borussia Dortmund Vs City (CL) Post Match Thread

[johnny on the spot]

City fans: Usually I just read the forum (I always reckon reading forums is the best way to understand what's really happening at a club) - but just wanted to post to ask something:

I understand the 'group of death' argument - horrendous group for you guys - but I'm really surprised that there is so little anger. You didn't win a single game. That seems a really damning statistic to me. To an extent, does that stat not mean the group of death thing is a bit irrelevant? On that form, even if you had United's group the first decent team would have knocked you out? It seems to me to be a lot more than just bad luck with the group - your excellent squad of players was outplayed in most of the games. Really confusing to watch and, given his record in Europe, I'm just surprised Mancini isn't getting more criticism.

ALTOGETHER NOW:

'We never win at home and we never win away...'

 

[Blue Heaven]

Watch Joe Hart's interview and say that again. He was FURIOUS and looked quite distraught. If we wanted to throw the game then Nimely, Evans, and Meppen-Walter would have been on the pitch. We wanted to win and weren't even playing that poorly in the first half other than having no ability to create chances.

People going after those who are angry are as out of line as those who are going a bit OTT with the "sack Mancini now" stuff. Not everyone thinks European football is a side attraction, the Champions League is the home of the elite and, if you care about our club's well-being, where there are millions of pounds to be made which we continue to miss out on which is not good for our fight against Financial Fair Play.

Our performances have been embarrassingly poor and there are no excuses anymore,
Malaga, PSG, and the modern version of BVB have proven that experience means fook all - all three won their groups.

spot on

exept i am pretty sure Malaga, PSG would have died in the Group of Death. So would have United, so would have chelse, so would have arsenal. We also got hella unlucky. Normally teams prove themselves in the knockout stages, not the group stage.
But We got utterly fucked.
Of course, we really could have done better. We really could have beaten real madrid twice, and ajax twice. But we fucked up! I thnk Bortmund is a class of its own and a team that is equivalent to Barcelona two years ago. It doesn't matter who they put on the field, they will be strong.
We can't connect, we can't finish. Thank god We have a Kompany, and a Barry and a Tevez and a Hart. They are the four players that show consistency on the city team. they are the four that are showing believe at the moment. We can't play football together like we used to. Idk how long the wait will be....its worrying me.

Lesson of the day, no matter the money and the talent we have, we are still the unlucky man city team....we are still that city team that goes through so much shit, and suffer so much...and get so much negative criticism. We still sing blue moon because good results and success still happens "Once in a Blue Moon." Admittedly, Luck is rare at city.
Aguero's goal vs QPR was a "once in a blue moon" moment, and so will our progression to the knockout stage.
....But as blues....We look forward. we are hopeful. We believe..

all you negatives "sack mancini" fans suck, and are a disgrace to what city represents. I don't care who is managing city, i'm a blue no matter who is running the show. And right now, i believe in Mancini because he believes in Man city.

One makes one's own luck in life, maybe? Going out of the CL AND the dreaded Europa League means a hit to our UEFA coefficient. I believe it's possible we might even slip into Pot 4 for next season's CL draw if the League doesn't go our way, and that could mean yet another "group of death" next season. The real problem for the club is that our short-term financial outlook re Fair Play Regs is heavily dependent on at least some real success in the CL.

 

[drthingy]

We lost last week

 

[summer of 69]

As for balotelli. I have always been the first to stand up for him and I have always had a soft spot for him but he needs to go. Made no effort when he came on and stormed straight down the tunnel at the final whistle.

I worked Balotelli out on day one at Molyneux ..... and i've seen little to alter my opinion of him since,

He's a 'bit player' ..... can be alright on the odd occasion , bit most of the time he's not a BIT of use !

All in all he was great in the derby last year and scores the odd penalty. He was fucking shite when he came on today. He is a hindrance. The reason we won the league last year was because he was suspended. Just fuck off.

Completely agree!!

 

[LoveCity]

Anyone interested in raging, read this by Bundesliga elitist Clark Whitney (@Mr_Bundesliga on Twitter). I'm not pasting it because it may cause BM's blood pressure to go through the roof: <a class="postlink" href="http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1432887-city-are-an-embarrassment-an-what-we-learned-from-dortmund-vs-manchester-city/page/5" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1432 ... ity/page/5</a>

 

[Blue Heaven]

...I don't care who is managing city, i'm a blue no matter who is running the show. And right now, i believe in Mancini because he believes in Man city.

Mancini "believes in Man city" because he is paid by Man City, just like everyone else employed by the club. Furthermore, if you don't care who the manager is, why are you so fixated on Mancini...?

He will surely get to the end of the season, and then be evaluated, like everyone else at the club from the Chairman down to the janitors, but if he cannot guide us to a repeat as League champions, he's finished.

 

[Blue Tooth]

Anyone interested in raging, read this by Bundesliga elitist Clark Whitney (@Mr_Bundesliga on Twitter). I'm not pasting it because it may cause BM's blood pressure to go through the roof: <a class="postlink" href="http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1432887-city-are-an-embarrassment-an-what-we-learned-from-dortmund-vs-manchester-city/page/5" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1432 ... ity/page/5</a>

Wow...such an intelligent piece of writing...I can't believe this guy is not a professional writer...oh...wait...what?

 

[1.618034]

OK, it was poor but we got knocked out of the group stages before this game and although Mancini would have us all think he wanted the Europa League, did he really?

I can't understand all this nonsense about Mancini, people need to chill out a bit. We had a tough group with Dortmund and Madrid in it along with Ajax. It took Chelsea, United and Arsenal years to get used to the style of play in the Champions League.

We've had a bad experience in the competition nobody can deny that but we're 2nd in the Premier League.

If we don't go on and retain the title now we're out of Europe then the summer is the time to judge Mancini (from the owner's point of view anyhow) not tonight, not Sunday.

To be honest, before the game, I would have been happy to go in the Europa but at the same time, I'm now also glad we're out of it.

I'm also glad to come away from the TV after hearing Gullit, Hoddle and Hamann spouting so much carp. Not one positive word was said and typifies the jealousy surrounding us.

So to sum up whatever the outcome you would be happy! We've been humiliated in Europe over the past 3 months and so called "fans" like you come out with this nonsense.
I'm seriously embarrassed with our new fan base.

Ah. The old "I'm a bigger Blue than you" card...


Wondered when that old chestnut would rear its head..?

 

[1.618034]

i still think we will win the league, with mancini in charge.

You have to win the league now or he is doomed.

This and what a fucking stupid position to be in. No-one would have cared that much about not qualifying, but the worst ever result from an English team? Fuck that for a laugh.

This could just become too much for Mancini. If we're back in it with him at the helm next year the burden of proof could just be hugely detrimental. If it creeps into the players, which it seems to have done already, we'll consistently fail. If everyone thinks Mancini is shit in Europe it doesnt even matter if he's learnt all his lessons, it will just become self fullfilling.

The derby game really is stupidly huge now. If you thought we'de been beaten with the crisis stick so far you just wait if we lose that game and go 6 points behind.

Yeah, because before tonight it was just another game.

FFS

 

[NorCalBlue]

I don't care what happens to the scum or arsenal or anyone else in Europe or how they would have got on in the so called " group of death" What I do care about is City and our performances and our results and our reputation, and believe me, so does the Sheikh.
There is a bigger picture here and there is a management team in place to realise that vision but that team is only as strong as its weakest link. Sheikh Mansour is a business man who wants success and prestige in all his ventures , he is not a diehard City fan who was at York or Stockport or anywhere else for that matter - he is , though , the future and key to success for this football club and he will have no qualms about making decisions however unpallatable, which he sees as necessary to achieve his aims. This is the nature of the beast now and everyone is going to have to get used to it.

The fact that the owner isn't a diehard fan is probably a good thing, as it might keep him off the manic-depressive roller-coaster that a lot of Bluemooners seem to be on, and which seems to affect their judgement. Perhaps a little detachment is a good thing.

And one of the unpalatable decisions he might make (at least to some posters on here) could be to leave well alone and let the football people (i.e. Mancini, Platt, Kidd, etc.) sort out the football team. If businessmen were as emotionally attached to their businesses as fans are to their clubs, they'd be firing the CEO every time the stock price fell. Chelsea's trouble might be that they have an owner who's behaving more like a fan than a businessman. I suspect our guy is a different animal entirely.