Brentford (A) - Post-Match Thread

[Keeper!]

Ain't that the truth, though? We had our full team out. They had hardly any normal first team starters. They gave us a game.
No problems with Brentford as a team, or their supporters, personally.

As said they have been incredible, just goes to show what can be achieved with sensible investment and good planning.

The likes of Everton and Newcastle could learn so much from a club like that.

 

[SamTheGuru]

You haven't done Norwich or Southampton away then! It's their main chant too.

I don't have any issue with small clubs. Good luck to them. Holding us to 1-0 is a major feat. 7 against Leeds and 6 against Leicester - their fans must have feared the worst.
They used to get 4k. Now cutting their cloth realistically with a new 17,000 stadium. I like to have new teams in. Just hope they make life as difficult for everyone else. Good luck to them. Also, something refreshing about Toney and Fern getting snidey digs in on each other.
Overall, glad that one's out of the way with the points in the bag, and we move on to deal with the Arse.

I have definitely done Southampton away and the stadium was falling to bits! Very young at the time though.

 

[SamTheGuru]

I'm presuming he was under instructions to do it, cause Pep would have 100% dragged him off if he was moving out of position.

I got the feeling that Pep was not going to make a substitution even if we were losing 10 nil.

 

[Mancity1980]

We mustn't get too giddy with an eight point lead. I seem to recall a team who squandered an eight point lead with a lot less games left to play. Can't for the life of me remember who it was. I think they steadied the leaking ship in the last game with a win at Sunderland, but the damage had been well 'n truly done. I also seem to recall that a Vinny bullet header figured largely in the demise!

You know it is funny you say that. I just heard Sky Sports say that no team with with a 6+ lead at Christmas had ever lost the league. No, but a team with a 8 point lead with 6 games remaining did! Funny that they didn’t mention that?

 

[Burtonblue]

The only thing that was annoying me about Grealish, (he needs to be given a chance to adapt to the way we play) but he should have been hugging that left wing when Jesus had up to 3 guys on him at points on the right, and he kept getting drawn into the play. Very naeve positionally.

Not sure about that. I would have thought That’s exactly when he needs to come more central as that’s where he becomes a goal threat once Jesus has created the space by drawing players onto him….

 

[chesterbells]

Watched it with the commentary switched off for the first time last night, miles better and gives a different view in the game. I thought the ref was good and favoured us, their fans were shit, complete with the usual nu-fan bollocks, one nil and you still don't sing (we did) and wwywyws, do they realise how small time they are?
Anyway, if sky have the no commentary option that's me from now on

Interesting, so you had audio from the stadium so could hear the crowd noise, but the comms off? Is that one of the options with Prime? Never realised. Might do that if I happen to glance at the match tonight.

 

[Plays By Sense Of Smell]

I don't think it should be decided by the furthest edge of a line as it's impossible for an attacker to know if they are onside by a gap as marginal as 1cm. If they knew that it was the width of a ball, or something like 20 to 30cm, then they could play to that.

Whichever way we look at it, the problem is always the degree of variability of decisions being open to interpretation.
Cuases of this can include the fundamental definitions of what constitutes on/off/where/when lines should be set etc.

If we're going to go for as accurate as possible, then it almost doesn't matter what you choose to measure from; as long as it is possible to set a rule/measure that can be consistently calibrated, you're heading in the right direction.

My feeling is that the shirt sleeve rule is too variable as some shirts may be adjusted,some players have longer arms, some wear long sleeves. There is no definitive point for everyone.

And I'm quite OK with players not being able to tell to within 1cm/whatever - that's part of the skill of playing the game - their judgment. And of course, if things could be know to be reliably exact, then we shouldn't have any qualms with the truth.

There is of course, a way to ensure you are onside. (Check). But to push the limits, as in any competition, there is an event of risk required , and sometimes you'll get it wrong.

VAR probably has improved the game from a technical correctness point of view, and will occasionally suffer from issues that either can't be addressed perfectly, or are part of the learning curve.

But in getting more precise, it highlights the areas where there is a lack of consistency in its own processes. And when that inconsistency is down to the humans who implemented it not having thought things through well enough (perhaps deliberately so), then that's what grinds gears.
The huge human reaction to perceived unfairness.

 

[blue cigar]

Interesting, so you had audio from the stadium so could hear the crowd noise, but the comms off? Is that one of the options with Prime? Never realised. Might do that if I happen to glance at the match tonight.

Yes exactly that, really good to just get the crowd noise

 

[goalmole]

Erm... You know it wasn't us booing Grealish, right?

Foden was getting booed as well iirc

 

[yerwot?]

"Take no risks" summed up our approach, barely attempted to take players on, a sort of about-face from our previous games. Champagne to flat beer.
Painful to watch at times; soon over it, a look at the league table and all is forgiven....Talk of the title-race being over is laughable, it's not even certain to complete. ffs. Especially if we have a double-figure lead....just sayin'