Bundesliga review part 2. the new one :)

[supercrystal7]

3-0 already. Bayern seem to want to outdo Madrid. No Lahm, no Muller and no Ribery. Arguably there 3 best players.

 

[mancity111]

3-0 already. Bayern seem to want to outdo Madrid. No Lahm, no Muller and no Ribery. Arguably there 3 best players.

Make that four.

 

[Don Karleone]

Almost as bad as the SPL.

 

[supercrystal7]

5-1. Hospital pass from Kevin Boateng and Mandzukic dived. 11 goals conceded in 4 days. Need to somehow regroup and get top 4.

 

[bayern blade]

Almost as bad as the SPL.

You can only beat what's put in front of you.

 

[Maldeika]

5-1. Hospital pass from Kevin Boateng and Mandzukic dived. 11 goals conceded in 4 days. Need to somehow regroup and get top 4.

But it was no No-Name opponents. I do not think that Schalke sees itself on the same level. But yes, they need to find a plan for this kind of opponents. But as Leverkusen seems to have a real bad stream that loss did not matter so much in the Bundesliga. I do not think that they actually have put 3 points in Munich into their plans or the quarter finals in the CL after Real Madrid was drawn for them.

There is 3 fighting for rank 3 and 4 with Wolfsburg, Schalke and Leverkusen.

 

[supercrystal7]

5-1. Hospital pass from Kevin Boateng and Mandzukic dived. 11 goals conceded in 4 days. Need to somehow regroup and get top 4.

But it was no No-Name opponents. I do not think that Schalke sees itself on the same level. But yes, they need to find a plan for this kind of opponents. But as Leverkusen seems to have a real bad stream that loss did not matter so much in the Bundesliga. I do not think that they actually have put 3 points in Munich into their plans or the quarter finals in the CL after Real Madrid was drawn for them.

There is 3 fighting for rank 3 and 4 with Wolfsburg, Schalke and Leverkusen.

Well at least against Bayern they showed some sense and kept players back. Bayern's performance today was more impressive than Madrid's. Schalke had players back and did not defend well or press, but at least they kept players back. Against Madrid they attacked as if they were playing a Bundesliga 2 team leaving no one back. It's not the result but the naivety and manner of the defeat.

Schalke need a lot of work and a proper manager. Keller maybe a good coach, but he does not appear to have what it takes to be a good coach. They clearly lack experience and they MUST remedy this in the summer. They don't need to spend much money except in wages to attract legendary players.

I like Hyypia, but Leverkusen have the weakest squad and least chance of making the step up. It would be better for the Bundesliga if Wolfsburg and Schalke got the top 4 spots. The only positive about Schalke is that if they fail to make top 4 then selling Draxler and Meyer would bring in 50 million and go along way to clearing their debts.

 

[Instant_Offense]

Almost as bad as the SPL.

You can only beat what's put in front of you.

And, ultimately, this is the point. What is in front of you is hardly worth your time much less your primary 11. The league is an extended coronation for at least the next few years. Perhaps that is preferable for the half of Germany that are Munich fans but don't be surprised when the rest of the world doesn't bother.

 

[bayern blade]

Almost as bad as the SPL.

You can only beat what's put in front of you.

And, ultimately, this is the point. What is in front of you is hardly worth your time much less your primary 11. The league is an extended coronation for at least the next few years. Perhaps that is preferable for the half of Germany that are Munich fans but don't be surprised when the rest of the world doesn't bother.

Why would I care whether or not the rest of the world is bothered ? Would you care if people abroad didn't watch the prem ? In anycase perversely you're wrong, it's being miles clear and thrashing everything in sight that attracts the average foreign glory Hunter.

 

[supercrystal7]

Saw an interesting article for Honigstein where he blast the top Bundesliga teams (Bayern excluded) for their poor management. He also points out, what we all know, that Keller is an awful manager.

Schalke seem to have been blaming the players and certainly Kevin, have a smoke in the changing room, is not fit as he should be.

"We have to be more [like] men," from Fahrmann who actually had a good game does say a lot. Teams need some bravery and guts.

Dortmund with top four secured need to think long and hard about the summer. I personally think they are around 50 million of money invested intelligently away from challenging Bayern. That may rise to 60 million if Gundogan goes.

A top striker
A top playmaker
A top central midfielder (if Gungodan leaves)
Sahin

Schalke don't need much work either. Selling Meyer and Draxler would not be a bad idea to clear the club debts. 55 million pounds for two teenagers can set them up very well for the future. Then buy some experience and leadership.

Experienced Defensive midfielder
Experienced Left Back
Experienced Centre Back.

 

[Maldeika]

Schalke don't need much work either. Selling Meyer and Draxler would not be a bad idea to clear the club debts. 55 million pounds for two teenagers can set them up very well for the future. Then buy some experience and leadership.

Experienced Defensive midfielder
Experienced Left Back
Experienced Centre Back.

They have an experienced leftback...

Just joking... ;)

Kolasinac has room to grow as a leftback, but he is very young - but I think that is not the position they need to improve because he will be very good.

Centre Back - Matip and Papadoupoulous are fine, too. Papa just came back from injury but before that he performed really good.

That they need an experienced leader somewhere in central midfield - yes, but that is a difficult thing. It would have to be a German or somebody that has already experience with the league. The problem is that the Schweinsteiger generation - players that are now between 28 or 35 - did not produce such players in abundance. And it is a position where half of Europe has problems with... The ideal player probably would be Khedira - but he will not go to Schalke.

Boateng never was the real one as he ain't really the model professional - and he is not consistent - he sometimes offers the spark but too often does not play very well...

 

[Bembeltown]

Saw an interesting article for Honigstein where he blast the top Bundesliga teams

Do you got a link to the article by chance?

Would be an interesting read I guess.

 

[Ruhr]

Saw an interesting article for Honigstein where he blast the top Bundesliga teams

Do you got a link to the article by chance?

Would be an interesting read I guess.

Honigstein writes for the Guardian about the Bundesliga. Just look at guardian.co,uk, then sport and authors. (my browser has a problem with their site, therefore no link)

Schalke´s left back is Dennis Aogo by the way.

 

[Bembeltown]

Saw an interesting article for Honigstein where he blast the top Bundesliga teams

Do you got a link to the article by chance?

Would be an interesting read I guess.

Honigstein writes for the Guardian about the Bundesliga. Just look at guardian.co,uk, then sport and authors. (my browser has a problem with their site, therefore no link)

Schalke´s left back is Dennis Aogo by the way.

Cheers, found it! :)

Going to the Germany match tomorrow in Stuttgart against Chile, and while I don´t really care much about the national team I fear the worst for Germany in the upcomming WC.

Bunch of players injured/ out of form and we still have Mr. Löw who has shown his "competency" in the last big tournaments.

Pretty sure it will be his last tournament as coach and we will win fuck all again.

 

[Matty]

Do you got a link to the article by chance?

Would be an interesting read I guess.

Honigstein writes for the Guardian about the Bundesliga. Just look at guardian.co,uk, then sport and authors. (my browser has a problem with their site, therefore no link)

Schalke´s left back is Dennis Aogo by the way.

Cheers, found it! :)

Going to the Germany match tomorrow in Stuttgart against Chile, and while I don´t really care much about the national team I fear the worst for Germany in the upcomming WC.

Bunch of players injured/ out of form and we still have Mr. Löw who has shown his "competency" in the last big tournaments.

Pretty sure it will be his last tournament as coach and we will win fuck all again.

Jesus, if you fear the worst for the German national team just think how we feel about the English one?! We've got a collection of piss poor footballers managed by a mediocre old bloke whose only qualification seems to be his nationality.

 

[Bembeltown]

Honigstein writes for the Guardian about the Bundesliga. Just look at guardian.co,uk, then sport and authors. (my browser has a problem with their site, therefore no link)

Schalke´s left back is Dennis Aogo by the way.

Cheers, found it! :)

Going to the Germany match tomorrow in Stuttgart against Chile, and while I don´t really care much about the national team I fear the worst for Germany in the upcomming WC.

Bunch of players injured/ out of form and we still have Mr. Löw who has shown his "competency" in the last big tournaments.

Pretty sure it will be his last tournament as coach and we will win fuck all again.

Jesus, if you fear the worst for the German national team just think how we feel about the English one?! We've got a collection of piss poor footballers managed by a mediocre old bloke whose only qualification seems to be his nationality.

To be fair I think the situation in Germany is similar to what happened in England a couple of years back. The pressure on the team/coach is immense from the media and the fans.

England might not have the best manager with the old owlface, nor the best players, but you can play without any pressure this time around. And as Germany has proven more than once its not always the most talented team that wins cups.

Maybe I am just a negativ old twat, but I am pretty convinced that this team of German players will end up like your golden generation and won´t win any major competition.

While we now play much better football than in the past we lost the winning mentality which once was the trademark of every German player.

 

[supercrystal7]

Cheers, found it! :)

Going to the Germany match tomorrow in Stuttgart against Chile, and while I don´t really care much about the national team I fear the worst for Germany in the upcomming WC.

Bunch of players injured/ out of form and we still have Mr. Löw who has shown his "competency" in the last big tournaments.

Pretty sure it will be his last tournament as coach and we will win fuck all again.

Jesus, if you fear the worst for the German national team just think how we feel about the English one?! We've got a collection of piss poor footballers managed by a mediocre old bloke whose only qualification seems to be his nationality.

To be fair I think the situation in Germany is similar to what happened in England a couple of years back. The pressure on the team/coach is immense from the media and the fans.

England might not have the best manager with the old owlface, nor the best players, but you can play without any pressure this time around. And as Germany has proven more than once its not always the most talented team that wins cups.

Maybe I am just a negativ old twat, but I am pretty convinced that this team of German players will end up like your golden generation and won´t win any major competition.

While we now play much better football than in the past we lost the winning mentality which once was the trademark of every German player.

It's not the same as our golden generation at all really. Like with do we with all our players, the golden generation despite being fantastic was overhyped. They were never as good as the teams that won tournaments with the exception of Greece. Whether we played to the best of our ability or not we would have no answer to the likes of Brazil or France.

The situation with Germany is different in that in the last tournament poor selection led to a poor performance in a match against Italy they should have won. The current German squad is the best in the world and only Brazil's home advantage should make up for it.

To sum it up our golden generation did pretty much performed to their standard. They would have need a lot of luck to win any tournament and cannot look back with many regrets. This German squad would have let themselves down if they fail to win anything.

 

[supercrystal7]

Schalke don't need much work either. Selling Meyer and Draxler would not be a bad idea to clear the club debts. 55 million pounds for two teenagers can set them up very well for the future. Then buy some experience and leadership.

Experienced Defensive midfielder
Experienced Left Back
Experienced Centre Back.

They have an experienced leftback...

Just joking... ;)

Kolasinac has room to grow as a leftback, but he is very young - but I think that is not the position they need to improve because he will be very good.

Centre Back - Matip and Papadoupoulous are fine, too. Papa just came back from injury but before that he performed really good.

That they need an experienced leader somewhere in central midfield - yes, but that is a difficult thing. It would have to be a German or somebody that has already experience with the league. The problem is that the Schweinsteiger generation - players that are now between 28 or 35 - did not produce such players in abundance. And it is a position where half of Europe has problems with... The ideal player probably would be Khedira - but he will not go to Schalke.

Boateng never was the real one as he ain't really the model professional - and he is not consistent - he sometimes offers the spark but too often does not play very well...

The left back and the centre back don't have to be long term signings nor do they have to play every game. It's about giving the team on pitch experience and leadership. More than that it's about giving them professionalism, hard work and belief.

The names worth mentioning are Ashley Cole, Puyol, Evra and even Vidic. It would be best to get a German legend, but as you said they are not many around cheaply available.

For midfield there are not many available they can get. Preferably they would want someone in his prime, but Kheidra is way too expensive and is unlikely to ever consider such a move. It's worth trying for Alonso, De Jong even a Gareth Barry (though not sure he is respected in Germany).

I know they have Aogo on loan out injured and have good potential in Matip and Papadoupolos, but they need to mentored and led at the moment. These older players even for a year or two will make the world of difference to Schalke much like Raul did.

<a class="postlink" href="http://www.theguardian.com/football/blog/2014/mar/03/schalke-leverkusen-bundesliga-moose-jens-keller-sami-hyypia" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.theguardian.com/football/blo ... ami-hyypia</a>

 

[bayern blade]

Don't get me started on the England team ! Mind you I was actually there to see our one recent moment of glory, the 5-1 in Munich in 2001. What a night that was ! We've done f##k all since of course

 

[Maldeika]

Schalke don't need much work either. Selling Meyer and Draxler would not be a bad idea to clear the club debts. 55 million pounds for two teenagers can set them up very well for the future. Then buy some experience and leadership.

Experienced Defensive midfielder
Experienced Left Back
Experienced Centre Back.

They have an experienced leftback...

Just joking... ;)

Kolasinac has room to grow as a leftback, but he is very young - but I think that is not the position they need to improve because he will be very good.

Centre Back - Matip and Papadoupoulous are fine, too. Papa just came back from injury but before that he performed really good.

That they need an experienced leader somewhere in central midfield - yes, but that is a difficult thing. It would have to be a German or somebody that has already experience with the league. The problem is that the Schweinsteiger generation - players that are now between 28 or 35 - did not produce such players in abundance. And it is a position where half of Europe has problems with... The ideal player probably would be Khedira - but he will not go to Schalke.

Boateng never was the real one as he ain't really the model professional - and he is not consistent - he sometimes offers the spark but too often does not play very well...

The left back and the centre back don't have to be long term signings nor do they have to play every game. It's about giving the team on pitch experience and leadership. More than that it's about giving them professionalism, hard work and belief.

The names worth mentioning are Ashley Cole, Puyol, Evra and even Vidic. It would be best to get a German legend, but as you said they are not many around cheaply available.

For midfield there are not many available they can get. Preferably they would want someone in his prime, but Kheidra is way too expensive and is unlikely to ever consider such a move. It's worth trying for Alonso, De Jong even a Gareth Barry (though not sure he is respected in Germany).

I know they have Aogo on loan out injured and have good potential in Matip and Papadoupolos, but they need to mentored and led at the moment. These older players even for a year or two will make the world of difference to Schalke much like Raul did.

<a class="postlink" href="http://www.theguardian.com/football/blog/2014/mar/03/schalke-leverkusen-bundesliga-moose-jens-keller-sami-hyypia" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.theguardian.com/football/blo ... ami-hyypia</a>

You talk about players that do not know the language nor the league - and are not top class or far over their prime in the EPL. Why should they be able to make it here - when they do not make it anymore there? Is it that stubborn believe that Sky somehow seems to implement that the EPL is superior?