can we see some youth please

[johnnytapia]

he wouldn't be in the team he'd either be in the eds or always out on loan. If sterling, barkley and stones were from our academy I doubt they would have played for us either. They need to be given a chance. Unfortunately just like chelsea who have loads of talented young players. i think barely any will get a chance.

“just like Chelsea, who have loads of talented players….”

So, that’s two teams who don’t believe in playing youngsters just for the sake of seeing if they eventually end up being good enough. And those two teams currently sit first and second in one of the world’s most difficult leagues.

Youth team players. Not. Good. Enough.

Right ........
Yes we and them are 1st and second. So lets say we put in barker or angelino on in a cup game how would that affect league positions. Or playing barker when 3-0 up with ten minutes to go.

how is any young player meant to make it if they are never going to be played

There’s a reason we won the league cup last season, the league too, got to an FA cup final the year before, won the league before that and got to league cup semi final, won the FA cup before that and league cup semi year before that. And a reason Chelsea will win the league this year as well as league cup.

And it ain’t fucking around with the first team just so we can see if Brandon Barker can cut it. He can’t. If he could, he’d have been given serious match time. Pellegrini, Mancini, Mourhino - none of them, not a single one of them puts the outside chance of a youngster making it before the nuts and bolts of football: winning. And winning trophies. Lots of trophies.

This nonsense that there’s a hidden pool of untapped talent just waiting to be mined - utter delusion. They are not good enough. It really is that simple.

 

[Cheadle_hulmeBlue]

Its quite often the smaller clubs with a low transfer budget bring players through! Not the established top 4 or 5 you might get 1 or 2 but not a lot! Terry/scholes are the last 2 truly world class players to come through the ranks at there clubs! Oh and rooney at Everton! We've not done to bad at bringing players through who have made good careers at a decent level

kasper
richards
onouha
mee
trippier
Jordan
phillips
barton
ireland
flood
sturridge
phillips
weise

feel free to add any more from the last 10 seasons!

Adam Clayton
Huws

 

[Cheadle_hulmeBlue]

“just like Chelsea, who have loads of talented players….”

So, that’s two teams who don’t believe in playing youngsters just for the sake of seeing if they eventually end up being good enough. And those two teams currently sit first and second in one of the world’s most difficult leagues.

Youth team players. Not. Good. Enough.

Right ........
Yes we and them are 1st and second. So lets say we put in barker or angelino on in a cup game how would that affect league positions. Or playing barker when 3-0 up with ten minutes to go.

how is any young player meant to make it if they are never going to be played

There’s a reason we won the league cup last season, the league too, got to an FA cup final the year before, won the league before that and got to league cup semi final, won the FA cup before that and league cup semi year before that. And a reason Chelsea will win the league this year as well as league cup.

And it ain’t fucking around with the first team just so we can see if Brandon Barker can cut it. He can’t. If he could, he’d have been given serious match time. Pellegrini, Mancini, Mourhino - none of them, not a single one of them puts the outside chance of a youngster making it before the nuts and bolts of football: winning. And winning trophies. Lots of trophies.

This nonsense that there’s a hidden pool of untapped talent just waiting to be mined - utter delusion. They are not good enough. It really is that simple.

How in any way would playing someone like barker for ten minutes at the end of game we are winning 3-0 fuck up the season hahaha jeez you sound so scared

right then no young player will ever be good enough, we may swell scrap the academy now. No one including me has said anywhere in any posts lets risk the premier league or the fa cup just so we can play a youngster, but maybe we could put one on the bench of play just one in a cup game.

We get luton in the cup play a full strength side and bring on angelino for twenty minutes, wheres the risk in that.

 

[pudge]

3-0 up at home to Palace, 10 minutes left and Ambrose on the bench

Obviously you bring on Scott Sinclair.

 

[johnnytapia]

Right ........
Yes we and them are 1st and second. So lets say we put in barker or angelino on in a cup game how would that affect league positions. Or playing barker when 3-0 up with ten minutes to go.

how is any young player meant to make it if they are never going to be played

There’s a reason we won the league cup last season, the league too, got to an FA cup final the year before, won the league before that and got to league cup semi final, won the FA cup before that and league cup semi year before that. And a reason Chelsea will win the league this year as well as league cup.

And it ain’t fucking around with the first team just so we can see if Brandon Barker can cut it. He can’t. If he could, he’d have been given serious match time. Pellegrini, Mancini, Mourhino - none of them, not a single one of them puts the outside chance of a youngster making it before the nuts and bolts of football: winning. And winning trophies. Lots of trophies.

This nonsense that there’s a hidden pool of untapped talent just waiting to be mined - utter delusion. They are not good enough. It really is that simple.

How in any way would playing someone like barker for ten minutes at the end of game we are winning 3-0 fuck up the season hahaha

right then no young player will ever be good enough, we may swell scrap the academy now. No one including me has said anywhere in any posts lets risk the premier league or the fa cup just so we can play a youngster, but maybe we could put one on the bench of play just one in a cup game.

We get luton in the cup play a full strength side and bring on angelino for twenty minutes, wheres the risk in that.

Okay, one last time: they are not good enough. As in, they……..are…..not….good…..enough.

If you think we should play Barker for ten mins when we’re 3 up, fine, go for it, keep banging that drum. I’ll stick to the tried and tested formula that’s seen us win pot after pot in the last four years. I’m sure the club would be delighted to hear from you if you’ve a list of undiscovered geniuses that have hitherto gone unnoticed by the world’s elite managers...

 

[Ray78]

3-0 up at home to Palace, 10 minutes left and Ambrose on the bench

Obviously you bring on Scott Sinclair.

We brought on Chantler in a Europa League cup game against Juventus. Our last youth experiment in a League Cup game ended in defeat when we had not yet won a cup.

 

[pudge]

3-0 up at home to Palace, 10 minutes left and Ambrose on the bench

Obviously you bring on Scott Sinclair.

We brought on Chantler in a Europa League cup game against Juventus. Our last youth experiment in a League Cup game ended in defeat when we haven't yet won a cup.

That lasted 30 seconds at max if I recall.

I don't see how that relates to the situation I referred to. You're old username is becoming a bit clearer.

 

[Cheadle_hulmeBlue]

There’s a reason we won the league cup last season, the league too, got to an FA cup final the year before, won the league before that and got to league cup semi final, won the FA cup before that and league cup semi year before that. And a reason Chelsea will win the league this year as well as league cup.

And it ain’t fucking around with the first team just so we can see if Brandon Barker can cut it. He can’t. If he could, he’d have been given serious match time. Pellegrini, Mancini, Mourhino - none of them, not a single one of them puts the outside chance of a youngster making it before the nuts and bolts of football: winning. And winning trophies. Lots of trophies.

This nonsense that there’s a hidden pool of untapped talent just waiting to be mined - utter delusion. They are not good enough. It really is that simple.

How in any way would playing someone like barker for ten minutes at the end of game we are winning 3-0 fuck up the season hahaha

right then no young player will ever be good enough, we may swell scrap the academy now. No one including me has said anywhere in any posts lets risk the premier league or the fa cup just so we can play a youngster, but maybe we could put one on the bench of play just one in a cup game.

We get luton in the cup play a full strength side and bring on angelino for twenty minutes, wheres the risk in that.

Okay, one last time: they are not good enough. As in, they……..are…..not….good…..enough.

If you think we should play Barker for ten mins when we’re 3 up, fine, go for it, keep banging that drum. I’ll stick to the tried and tested formula that’s seen us win pot after pot in the last four years. I’m sure the club would be delighted to hear from you if you’ve a list of undiscovered geniuses that have hitherto gone unnoticed by the world’s elite managers...

Okay, one last time, how do you know they aren't good enough ?. As in, MAYBE.......THEY ....... ARE........GOOD.............ENOUGH, and having one on the bench isn't going to destroy us. you sound like your going to have a breakdown if one plays.
having watched them a lot this season I think some of them are good enough and deserving of at least a place on the bench. But no none of them are or ever will be and as long as we want to be a top club lets never play any young players.......................

No need for the arsey reply back btw.

 

[Ray78]

3-0 up at home to Palace, 10 minutes left and Ambrose on the bench

Obviously you bring on Scott Sinclair.

We brought on Chantler in a Europa League cup game against Juventus. Our last youth experiment in a League Cup game ended in defeat when we haven't yet won a cup.

That lasted 30 seconds at max if I recall.

I don't see how that relates to the situation I referred to. You're old username is becoming a bit clearer.

It means they don't have much of a chance in first team football who ever is in charge. And less of the insulting comments (even if you are one of Damocles' usernames).

 

[pudge]

We brought on Chantler in a Europa League cup game against Juventus. Our last youth experiment in a League Cup game ended in defeat when we haven't yet won a cup.

That lasted 30 seconds at max if I recall.

I don't see how that relates to the situation I referred to. You're old username is becoming a bit clearer.

It means they don't have much of a chance in first team football who ever is in charge. And less of the insulting comments.

Really? Because I remembering even Guidetti getting games in the cup under Mancini, Weiss with Hughes etc.

In that scenario against Palace, present one valid reason as to why Sinclair should have come on ahead of Ambrose. That was a golden opportunity to give a young player some experience with little to no risk.

Less of the edits then, as it's hard to keep up when you're effectively posting twice when someone's replying to the first one.