I have a question. When does "new money" become "old money"?
We know that the rags were on the verge of bankruptcy twice, in 1901 & 1931, and were bailed out by 'sugar daddies', So when did Gibson's money, which paid their wages, bought players and rebuilt their stadium, become 'organically generated'? Or the loans they took out to finance Baconface's team building?
We know that Danny Fiszman put money into Arsenal in the mid 1990's. I asked Tony Adams that at the FA Cup draw when it was held at the Etihad and he said that was what he'd been told. When did that stop being 'new money'?
We know that the Moore's family financed Liverpool's success in the 1970's and beyond. When did that stop being 'new money'?
Spurs raised a load of money on the Stock Market in the 1980's. Prior to that they were crippled by what was the largest debt in football, after a rebuild of parts of WHL. That money came from investors, not from success in the CL or commercial sponsorship. When did that become 'old money'?
We all know about Chelsea and they actually give us the answer to the question I think. Taken over in 2003 by Abramovich and now they're an 'old money' club, despite the fact their owner still bankrolls them.
The answer is that 'new money' clearly became 'old money' when our takeover happened, which was 23rd September 2008.
Exactly. This is how stupid the “City are fucked if Mansour sells up” crowd are. If he does then he’ll sell the club to someone with serious ambitions and clout. He won’t be selling it to the likes of Simon Jordan ffs!
1992I have a question. When does "new money" become "old money"?
We know that the rags were on the verge of bankruptcy twice, in 1901 & 1931, and were bailed out by 'sugar daddies', So when did Gibson's money, which paid their wages, bought players and rebuilt their stadium, become 'organically generated'? Or the loans they took out to finance Baconface's team building?
We know that Danny Fiszman put money into Arsenal in the mid 1990's. I asked Tony Adams that at the FA Cup draw when it was held at the Etihad and he said that was what he'd been told. When did that stop being 'new money'?
We know that the Moore's family financed Liverpool's success in the 1970's and beyond. When did that stop being 'new money'?
Spurs raised a load of money on the Stock Market in the 1980's. Prior to that they were crippled by what was the largest debt in football, after a rebuild of parts of WHL. That money came from investors, not from success in the CL or commercial sponsorship. When did that become 'old money'?
We all know about Chelsea and they actually give us the answer to the question I think. Taken over in 2003 by Abramovich and now they're an 'old money' club, despite the fact their owner still bankrolls them.
The answer is that 'new money' clearly became 'old money' when our takeover happened, which was 23rd September 2008.
People who use Twitter aren’t the sort of people who’ll read a full report on a court case from another club.
Twitter football fans can barely string a sentence together. They don’t even understand the CAS press release from Monday that’s only just over one page long... or they don’t want to!
The press and social media set the narrative five minutes after the statement of Not Guilty came out and, unfortunately, across most of football’s fans, forever more, we will be known for “getting away with it”.
CAS has been derided and had its integrity questioned ever since the verdict was released.
I'm sure if there is anything in their findings which will paint City in a bad light, CAS will suddenly find legitimacy again via all the hypocritical pricks who have accused them of being on the take.
Yeah, both parties have to agree for it to be released.
We might jump at the chance; UEFA might want to save a total embarrassment and say no.
Yeah, both parties have to agree for it to be released.
We might jump at the chance; UEFA might want to save a total embarrassment and say no.
That's not my understanding. Happy to be corrected, but I thought that no one party can halt it's publication, both parties must agree for the full report to remain under wraps, otherwise it's published in full.
I was wondering whether Khaldoon got on the blower to cut a deal on Monday. If UEFA would rather not have the report published, I'm sure a grovelling mea culpa statement from our friends in Europe, would earn our compliance to bury the full report.