Cavani (continued)

[rastus]

Re: Cavani.

Silly answer. Different reasons in different game. We were pumping balls into the box at a rate of about 2 per minute, but had no height in there. Perhaps you noticed Mancini eventually told even Kompany to go play upfront for his height, too? No? Didn't see that? Who was it that ran off the ball and pulled the defender away as Aguero picked up the ball for 93:20?!

C'mon, we can do better than this, can't we?!

To get back to the OP, I would trade Cavani for Dzeko because he is a more well rounded player and technically more gifted. However, Cavani would currently cost about twice what we could get for Dzeko, so I'm not sure that is a good trade, especially given Dzeko has not been a consistent first team regular.

During the summer I asked for Martinez and Cavani. Period. At this point, I would take Martinez, because I don't believe Cavani is coming anywhere near Manchester anytime soon.

Silly response to be fair, but yes Martinez looks possible

Don't think it is silly to be honest. Spending £30m+ on Cavani seems a lot of money for a small improvement in the team. Would he be happy to play a supporting role to Aguero and Tevez? It would also take him time to bed in, which could cost us points.

Mancini was "disciplining" Mario at the end of last season after the Arsenal debarcle and so had falled down the pecking order.

I think Dzeko is underrated by a lot here. He looks gangly and not as graceful as other players in our side, but we are talking about world class players! He comes up with important goals at important times - QPR, home and away, Spuds and last week as well. He has a superb attitude (Munich away apart) and is an asset to our squad.

In signing Cavani we would be gaining another world class player, but not in an area where one is needed.

We have struggled over the summer with transfers as we are either in for elite players to slot straight into the team, who are extremely hard to prize away from their current teams or we are in for younger players brought in to fill gaps created by injuries/AFCON. These players wouldn't get much game time and so most aren't interested in joining.

Fair enough

 

[Davs 19]

Re: Cavani.

You quoted fact and fact it was not, fuck all to do with Rodwell.

-- Thu Aug 23, 2012 9:54 pm --

I like probably and could of, much better than an incorrect fact.

Opinions are like arseholes, we've al got one :) bookmark this and come back to it when Edin leaves and Balo's still here. Never cease to be amazed by the way usually decent posters on here lay into others with a different opinion, not that it bothers me as I'd have to value someone's opinion to be concerned by it. Enjoy the rest ofthe evening !

But there aren't many arseholes that I find worth listening to...........especially here.

That could have been funny in the right hands. What exactly is your point ?

 

[St Helens Blue (Exiled)]

Re: Cavani.

you quoted a fact, it wasn't, I pointed it out as such and I'm laying in to you. Your opinion is fine with me, but facts are right or it ain't so.

He is still magnificent.

The blue moon mascot overseeing all fights/disputes. Love him

 

[Forzacitizens]

Re: Cavani. (cont)

juve maybe back in for dzeko

 

[Marvin]

Re: Cavani. (cont)

They can't afford him, but then we are giving AJ away for half his value (less than Fletcher)

 

[johnmc]

Re: Cavani. (cont)

They can't afford him, but then we are giving AJ away for half his value (less than Fletcher)

What you have to remember is johnsons wage. He recently got a new deal. What do you reckon he is on. Realistically he might be on £40-60k. Is that unreasonable?

Fletcher came from Scotland to Burnley to Wolves. He will be on £15-25k.

Fletcher will expect a rise no doubt but unlikely to be to johnsons level. Johnson will expect the same wage.

So on 4 year deals with fletcher costing £15 and johnson £10m I'd say that Johnson would be more expensive. Factor in strikers who score goals (fletcher not prolific but decent in a poor team) and you see why the transfer fees are different.

All guess work btw.


EDIT. Just saw an article from when he signed his new deal that reckoned£90k pw. Don't believe it would be that high but backs my theory.

 

[The_Mo]

Re: Cavani. (cont)

They can't afford him, but then we are giving AJ away for half his value (less than Fletcher)

You reckon AJ's wages played a part in the fee, or the usual Man city pay more to get, take less to give?

 

[LoveCity]

Re: Cavani. (cont)

Gazzetta said earlier I believe (dodgy translation) that Juventus offered us £11million up front and £11million in addons/bonuses earlier in the window that we rejected. If they turned that into £18million up front and £4million in bonuses, would we sell?

 

[Marvin]

Re: Cavani. (cont)

They can't afford him, but then we are giving AJ away for half his value (less than Fletcher)

You reckon AJ's wages played a part in the fee, or the usual Man city pay more to get, take less to give?

Still bad deal football wise and money wise. Clubs falling over him to offer terms

 

[Ray78]

Re: Cavani. (cont)

Gazzetta said earlier I believe (dodgy translation) that Juventus offered us £11million up front and £11million in addons/bonuses earlier in the window that we rejected. If they turned that into £18million up front and £4million in bonuses, would we sell?

If we do value Edin at £22m then yep the second one seems an ok deal.