Cesc Fabregas signs for Chelsea (page 190)

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Does yaya not have the acon this year? So that leaves fernandinho and fernando an injury to either and Garcia starts and we lose the option of going 4-5-1! Unless Huss is given more game time!
 
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So BBC has confirmed that Arsenal have informed Barcelona that they wont use the buy-back clause on Fabregas. So Chelsea now 100%........
 
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dubblue said:
If they get Fabregas as well as Costa and add one or two others they will have the best team/squad in England regardless of our dealings this summer,unless we pull some suprises out of the hat. Let's just hope the eye isn't taken off the ball again as in 2012.

Just because they add new faces, doesn't necessarily mean they have a better team/squad. Don't forget they still have Torres and Mikel ;)

Lets see if Costa can score a few first.

Mangala? From what I have seen of him, which I suspect is all that everyone else has in the Waffer Cup, he looks okay. Got age on his side to develop, but coming from Portugal to England he will need to develop very, very quickly.

We have a very strong first XI that has played together for a couple of years now, winning stuff in England. Let see how a 23 year old from the Portuguese League can cope with The Prem.

Plus Maureen needs to bring all of this together.
 
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Fabregas and Chelsea doesn't seem like a good fit to me. He'll improve them if he goes there, no doubt, but he'd be better suited at City, Arsenal, Liverpool and even Utd.

Chelsea weren't far off winning the league this year, faulting through a lack of goals. Fabregas, whilst not perfectly suited to Chelsea, will enhance their goal threat. Even moreso with a quality striker or two in the squad.

Yes, we have other areas we need to strengthen but it's still a big mistake by us not to sign him, esp. for 28m.
 
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onceabluealways said:
Andouble said:
malg said:
So, am I right in thinking they've got Fabregas,Mangala and Costa in the bag, or is it shite? If this happens they'll have some starting 11 next season. How the fuck do they manage to beat FFP?

50m for Luiz, 40m for Mata and 17 mil for De Bruyne is a start. They can buy anyone this summer, they're in tremendous shape.


So basically they have swapped Mata ( player of the year two tyears running for Fabregras - not that much improvement
Luiz - experienced international for a young unproven centre back
Costa - yes this makes them better but we all knew he was coming and you would expect them to try and improve.

Mata didn't play for them.

If anyone, they'll be swapping a past it Lampard for Fabregas
 
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whyalwaysyou said:
Someone also said Arsenal refused to pay the same fee as Chelsea, they didnt have buyback only first refusal should barca receive an acceptable bid, Arsenal didnt want to pay it

Why am I not surprised? If I was a betting man, I would put money on wenger whinging about this at some point next season. What am I saying, I am a betting man
 
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malg said:
So, am I right in thinking they've got Fabregas,Mangala and Costa in the bag, or is it shite? If this happens they'll have some starting 11 next season. How the fuck do they manage to beat FFP?

If those three do end up there, we've got better than Costa and Fabregas. Mangala might become an excellent centre half but he isn't at the moment.
 
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chelsea are going to be very hard to compete against over the next few years, they have so many players out on loan (c.25), most of them will never get near the first team and will just be continuously loaned until they want to raise some cash at which point they'll just flog them to balance the transfer books.....thereby spending huge amounts and still breaking even.

our business model seems to be more about building an empire, including overseas clubs, which is all well and good for brand promotion, but any profits made by our overseas clubs, does not help us with FFP.
 
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Nando Torres on eventual new signing Fabergas: "Big players are always good signings. We know Cesc, he knows the division and was always among the top players when he was at Arsenal," Torres said during an interview for Movistar. "He likes to play good football and will offer ball control, cutting edge, goals... If he's made to feel important, like a leader -- like when he was at Arsenal -- he can drive the team on and he's a type of player Chelsea don't have right now."
 
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littlemarkyc said:
chelsea are going to be very hard to compete against over the next few years, they have so many players out on loan (c.25), most of them will never get near the first team and will just be continuously loaned until they want to raise some cash at which point they'll just flog them to balance the transfer books.....thereby spending huge amounts and still breaking even.

our business model seems to be more about building an empire, including overseas clubs, which is all well and good for brand promotion, but any profits made by our overseas clubs, does not help us with FFP.

We are going to break earlier than Chelsea did under Roman though with next year predicted to be our break even year and the year after we will show profit.

The City Group model in my opinion will take longer to implement but my money is on it being a bigger success than what Chelsea have going on as it wouldn't surprise me to see us get level with Real Madrid and Barcelona in ten years time and who knows maybe even overtake them.
 
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sam-caddick said:
littlemarkyc said:
chelsea are going to be very hard to compete against over the next few years, they have so many players out on loan (c.25), most of them will never get near the first team and will just be continuously loaned until they want to raise some cash at which point they'll just flog them to balance the transfer books.....thereby spending huge amounts and still breaking even.

our business model seems to be more about building an empire, including overseas clubs, which is all well and good for brand promotion, but any profits made by our overseas clubs, does not help us with FFP.

We are going to break earlier than Chelsea did under Roman though with next year predicted to be our break even year and the year after we will show profit.

The City Group model in my opinion will take longer to implement but my money is on it being a bigger success than what Chelsea have going on as it wouldn't surprise me to see us get level with Real Madrid and Barcelona in ten years time and who knows maybe even overtake them.

We break even 2013-14 season, and next season 2014-15 we will show profit.
 
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MeatHunterrr said:
sam-caddick said:
littlemarkyc said:
chelsea are going to be very hard to compete against over the next few years, they have so many players out on loan (c.25), most of them will never get near the first team and will just be continuously loaned until they want to raise some cash at which point they'll just flog them to balance the transfer books.....thereby spending huge amounts and still breaking even.

our business model seems to be more about building an empire, including overseas clubs, which is all well and good for brand promotion, but any profits made by our overseas clubs, does not help us with FFP.

We are going to break earlier than Chelsea did under Roman though with next year predicted to be our break even year and the year after we will show profit.

The City Group model in my opinion will take longer to implement but my money is on it being a bigger success than what Chelsea have going on as it wouldn't surprise me to see us get level with Real Madrid and Barcelona in ten years time and who knows maybe even overtake them.

We break even 2013-14 season, and next season 2014-15 we will show profit.

all of our predictions about breaking even are only based on an assumed level of transfer spend though, if we are forced/want to blow £80m on a big signing, then we wont break even. talk of breaking even before chelsea did when abramovich took over is not relevant, FFP wasnt an issue then so they could spend what they liked. Break even or not, chelsea are in a very nice position of having numerous assets of value that they can sell to no detriment at all.
 
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all of our predictions about breaking even are only based on an assumed level of transfer spend though, if we are forced/want to blow £80m on a big signing, then we wont break even. talk of breaking even before chelsea did when abramovich took over is not relevant, FFP wasnt an issue then so they could spend what they liked. Break even or not, chelsea are in a very nice position of having numerous assets of value that they can sell to no detriment at all.[/quote]

I think it's pretty evident that the club are confident about breaking even next season otherwise they wouldn't have accepted the 60m euros fine from UEFA with the chance of it reducing it to 20m euros if we break even next season.

I think you will find City will eventually follow a similar model to that of Chelsea's buying promsing players cheap and selling them for profit after a few loans because there has been serious talk of buying a Portuguese club to house promising South Americans, plus I think we are going to see the start of it with the potential signing of Bruno Zuculini who will be bought and loaned out.

You say we won't break even if we have to spend 80m on a big singing but the club is doing what it can so we don't have to, City want to build an academy where we eventually don't have to be spending ridiculous sums every summer, plus Dortmund and Atletico Madrid have proved that you don't need to spend huge sums on one player to win trophies.

I think unless it's the next Neymar I doubt very much City will ever spend 50m + on a player.

FFP wont affect City next season and I doubt it will ever again, this summer is a one off in my opinion.
 

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